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[1. CONVENE]

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GOOD EVENING AND WELCOME TO THIS SPECIAL STUDY SESSION OF THE FERNDALE SCHOOL BOARD, WHETHER YOU'RE JOINING US LIVE OR ONLINE.

IF YOU'LL PLEASE JOIN ME, WE'RE GOING TO START WITH THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE.

I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.

NEXT IS THE LAND ACKNOWLEDGEMENT AND FOR THAT WE THE FERNDALE SCHOOL DISTRICT ACKNOWLEDGE THAT WE ARE RESIDING ON THE TRADITIONAL ANCESTRAL AND UNCEDED TERRITORIES OF THE LUMMI PEOPLE.

THE LUMMI PEOPLE ARE THE ORIGINAL INHABITANTS OF WASHINGTON'S NORTHERN MOST COAST AND SOUTHERN BRITISH COLUMBIA.

THEY LIVED IN VILLAGES THROUGHOUT THIS TERRITORY AND CONTINUE TO HAVE AN ONGOING RELATIONSHIP WITH THESE AREAS.

SINCE TIME IMMEMORIAL THEY HAVE CELEBRATED LIFE ON THEIR WATERWAYS AND ON THE TRADITIONAL, ANCESTRAL, AND UNCEDED LANDS OF THEIR PEOPLE TO PERPETUATE THEIR WAY OF LIFE.

WE HONOR THEIR ANCESTORS AS WE ACKNOWLEDGE THE PAST, PRESENT, AND FUTURE LUMMI PEOPLE AS THE ORIGINAL INHABITANTS OF THIS LAND.

OKAY.

AND WITH THAT, WE'LL MOVE ON

[2. MATTERS FOR BOARD DISCUSSION]

TO THE MAIN FOCUS OF OUR MEETING TONIGHT, WHICH IS BUDGET DEVELOPMENT.

AND FOR THAT...

I WILL TURN IT OVER TO MARK AND HOLLY.

THANK YOU.

OKAY, SO WE'LL JUMP RIGHT IN.

TONIGHT WE'RE GOING TO TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE AUDIT THAT JUST WRAPPED UP TODAY.

WE HAD OUR EXIT CONFERENCE.

WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT POSITIONAL BUDGETING, WHICH IS KIND OF A SHIFT IN HOW WE DO STAFFING.

WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT THE BUDGET PRIORITIES SET BY THE BOARD, THE BUDGET PREPARATION FOR THE GENERAL FUND AS WELL AS OUR OTHER FUNDS.

WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT SOME KEY BUDGET CONCEPTS THAT WE KIND OF WEAVE INTO WHEN WE'RE DEVELOPING OUR BUDGET.

WE'LL TALK ABOUT FUND BALANCE, AND THEN WE'LL FINISH WITH THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS BUDGET.

SO KIND OF HOT OFF THE PRESS IS WE HAD OUR EXIT CONFERENCE TODAY, AND THIS WAS ONE OF THE SLIDES.

THEY PRESENTED THIS INFORMATION AT THE END OF THE AUDIT.

THEY HAVE WHAT THEY CALL THE FIT TOOL, WHICH IS A STATEWIDE TOOL THAT YOU CAN JUST LOOK UP DIFFERENT GOVERNMENTS AND KIND OF SEE HOW THINGS LOOK FINANCIALLY, YOU KNOW, USING THEIR METRICS.

AS YOU CAN SEE, OUR FUND BALANCE SUFFICIENCY, IT SAYS WHAT'S CONCERNING.

AND ALTHOUGH IT'S CONCERNING TO THEIR TOOL, THEY DID SAY THAT THEY DON'T HAVE ANY CONCERNS WITH WHERE WE'RE AT.

THEY KNOW THEY'VE HAD A LOT OF CONVERSATIONS WITH ME OVER THE LAST TWO YEARS AND MARK AND CHRISTY ABOUT, YOU KNOW, HOW INVOLVED.

THE BOARD IS WITH OUR BUDGET AND HOW WE TALK ABOUT THE FUND BALANCE A LOT.

AND I JUST WANTED TO POINT OUT THAT THEIR METRIC THAT THEY USE FOR THIS FUND BALANCE EFFICIENCY IS 60 DAYS.

THEY COMPARE 60 DAYS WORTH OF, AND SO THAT WOULD BE ROUGHLY 17% FUND BALANCE.

SO THAT WOULD BE LIKE $15.5 MILLION IF WE KEPT THAT.

SO OUT OF THE 295 DISTRICTS, HOW MANY WOULD HAVE A APPROPRIATE FUND BALANCE AT THAT LEVEL? I DON'T THINK ANY OF THEM WOULD.

WELL, JUST, YEAH, IT'S NOT POSITIVE.

AND PART OF IT IS SCHOOL DISTRICTS, WE KNOW THE REVENUE.

WE'RE DIFFERENT.

LIKE 60 DAYS IS MORE THAN MAYBE YOU'D SEE IN PRIVATE INDUSTRY.

WE HAVE KIND OF CERTAIN NUMBERS.

LIKE WE KNOW WHEN WE'RE GOING TO COLLECT OUR LEVY.

WE KNOW HOW MUCH OUR APPORTIONMENT IS GOING TO BE EACH MONTH.

SO WE HAVE MORE PREDICTABILITY THAN OTHER.

ENTITIES PERHAPS OR OTHER BUSINESSES.

SO YEAH, SO THE 15, 16 OR 17 PERCENT IS JUST NOT REALISTIC FOR US.

PEGGY? ASSUMING THEY DON'T HIT US WITH A SURPRISE LIKE THEY DID LAST YEAR WITH THE TK FUNDING.

AND WE WERE WE'RE CERTAIN THAT WE'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE SOMETHING LIKE THAT HAPPEN AGAIN.

I MEAN, WE'RE NEVER CERTAIN.

BUT AS FAR AS THIS YEAR, THEY DID HAVE A LITTLE GLITCH WITH TRANSPORTATION FUNDING WHERE THEY SHORTED US SOME.

IT WAS JUST A CLERICAL ERROR, BUT NOT THAT WE ARE AWARE OF.

AND JUST FOR WHOEVER'S WATCHING INFORMATION, BUT ALSO BECAUSE BRIAN WAS NOT ON THE BOARD, DO YOU WANT TO EXPLAIN WHAT HAPPENED LAST YEAR? AND ALSO, THAT'S NOT THE FIRST TIME.

THEY DID IT WITH FOOD SERVICE ONCE.

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THEY HAVE, YEAH, THEY'VE HAD SHORTFALLS BEFORE.

SO LAST YEAR AROUND, I CAN'T REMEMBER WHAT MONTH IT WAS, JANUARY OR SO? IT WAS JANUARY AND THEY WERE SAYING STARTING IN FEBRUARY.

THEY SAID, OH, WE'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE, TK CAME IN, THE ENROLLMENT CAME IN MUCH HIGHER THAN WE HAD PREDICTED, SO WE'RE NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO FUND YOU UNTIL AFTER THE LEGISLATIVE SESSION ENDS AND WE HAVE, YOU KNOW, OUR FUNDING FOR THE NEW SCHOOL YEAR, SO WE'LL PAY YOU ALL THAT MONEY IN JULY.

AND SO THEY KIND OF ESTIMATED HOW MUCH THEY WERE GOING TO SHORT.

SO WE WERE GOING TO BE SHORT $100,000, WHICH IN A REALLY TIGHT BUDGET YEAR LIKE LAST YEAR, IT WAS, YEAH, A LITTLE SCARY.

SO, YEAH, AND THEN I THINK FOOD SERVICE ONE YEAR, THEY WERE SHORT OF FUNDS, KIND OF A SIMILAR SITUATION.

SO I HOPE IT DOESN'T HAPPEN, BUT WE DON'T.

YEAH, GO AHEAD.

SORRY, JUST ANOTHER QUESTION.

SO IF WE DO MANAGE TO, YOU KNOW, EVEN BEEF UP THE FUND BALANCE EVEN MORE SO, DOES THAT ENCOURAGE THEM TO SHORT US IN ANY WAY, SHAPE, OR FORM? I MEAN, I JUST WONDER IF THEY SEE THAT AS THERE'S NO WAY THAT THAT'S A I DON'T THINK SO.

I WOULD HOPE NOT.

AND JUST TO BE CLEAR THAT THIS WHAT'S ON THE SCREEN NOW IS THE STATE AUDITOR'S OFFICE TOOL, WHICH IS INDEPENDENT FROM OSPI, SO IT'S AN INDEPENDENT AGENCY.

SO THIS I DON'T WE'LL NEVER BE GOOD WE'LL NEVER HAVE A GREEN INDICATOR ON THIS ONE HISTORICALLY THE SHORT PAYS HAVE BEEN VERY RARE THAT HASN'T REALLY HAPPENED VERY FREQUENTLY IN THE IN THE 20 YEARS THAT I'VE BEEN DOING THIS IT'S BECOME A LITTLE BIT MORE FREQUENTLY FREQUENT IN THE LAST FEW YEARS I THINK JUST BECAUSE THE WHOLE STATE BUDGET HAS GOTTEN TIGHTER AND TYPICALLY IT'S A MATTER OF DAYS SO THEY TIP OVER INTO THE NEW FUNDING YEAR.

AND SO INSTEAD OF GETTING IT IN JUNE, WE GET IT IN JULY.

AND IT'S A SMALLER AMOUNT.

IT'S NOT GENERALLY THE BIG 03,100 APPORTIONMENT.

IT'S A PIECE OF THAT'S A SMALLER, MORE MANAGEABLE AMOUNT.

BUT IT IS A REALLY GLARING EXAMPLE OF WHY IT'S IMPORTANT TO HAVE A SUFFICIENT FUND BALANCE SO YOU'RE NOT IN A PANIC OR HAVING TO DO AN INTER-FUND LOAN.

OR DO SOMETHING TO MITIGATE AGAINST A CASH FLOW INTERRUPTION LIKE THAT.

CAN I ASK ONE MORE QUESTION? SORRY ABOUT THIS.

OKAY, SO I, YOU KNOW, RECENTLY SAW THAT THE COUNTY EXECUTIVE WAS SAYING THAT, YOU KNOW, THERE'S GOING TO BE SOME SEVERE TRIMBACKS BECAUSE OF SHORTAGES AT THE COUNTY LEVEL.

DOES THAT MEAN THAT WE MAY SEE LESS IN THE WAY OF GRANTS COMING THROUGH THE COUNTY? IS THERE, I MEAN, ANY WAY OF PREDICTING WHAT THAT WILL DO TO US? THANK YOU.

HARD TO PREDICT, BUT I THINK A LOT OF OUR COUNTY GRANTS ARE THROUGH THE HEALTHY CHILDREN'S FUND, WHICH IS A NEW TAX THAT WAS IMPLEMENTED A FEW YEARS AGO.

SO I'M NOT SURE.

SO WE DON'T HAVE THAT MANY GRANTS THAT COME FROM THE COUNTY.

SO I CAN'T SAY FOR SURE, BUT I DON'T THINK IT WILL BE AS MUCH OF AN ISSUE FOR US.

YOU'RE WELCOME.

AND PLEASE.

THIS IS A STUDY SESSION, SO PLEASE JUMP IN WITH ANY QUESTIONS YOU HAVE.

IT'S WAY BETTER FOR IT TO BE CONVERSATIONAL.

SO PEGGY'S POINT ABOUT THEM TARGETING US IF WE HAD A HEALTHIER FUND BALANCE, THEY'RE NOT TARGETING SPECIFIC SCHOOL DISTRICTS WITH THE SHORTAGES.

IT'S GOING STATEWIDE.

NO, IT'S ACROSS THE BOARD TO EVERYBODY.

OKAY.

THAT'S ME BEING PARANOID.

I LOVE THAT YOU ACKNOWLEDGE THAT, PEGGY.

BUT I THINK IT IS A GOOD QUESTION TO ASK BECAUSE WE TALK ALL UP.

WHAT'S A GOOD FUND BALANCE TO HAVE THAT KEEPS US PAYING OUR BILLS BUT DOESN'T PUT US IN A DIFFERENT SITUATION WHERE IT CHANGES OUTCOMES IN OTHER WAYS, RIGHT? SO IT'S A FINE BALANCE.

AND I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT WE DIDN'T ACKNOWLEDGE IT.

HOW MANY DISTRICTS WERE SHOWING CAUTIONARY ACCORDING TO WHAT THEY SHARED TODAY? THAT'S MY NEXT SLIDE.

I CAN'T WAIT.

LET'S LOOK.

THERE WE GO.

SO 191 OUT OF 295 HAVE AT LEAST ONE CONCERNING INDICATOR.

I DON'T KNOW WHO THOSE 54 GOOD ONES ARE.

AND WHEN I BEGAN LOOKING AT THIS FIT TOOL, WHICH JUST SO YOU KNOW, I DO PLAN TO SEND OUT A MESSAGE TO OUR COMMUNITY AND PUT SOME THINGS ON SOCIAL MEDIA FOR PEOPLE TO LOOK AT THIS.

I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT OUR COMMUNITY UNDERSTANDS IT.

THAT IS UNHEARD OF.

THAT WAS NOT, IF YOU WOULD HAVE LOOKED AT THIS EVEN FIVE YEARS AGO, THAT RED, WE'RE LOOKING AT A VERY TINY NUMBER.

SO THE FACT IT'S 191, AND KEVIN ASKED A REALLY GOOD QUESTION TODAY.

I DON'T KNOW IF IT WAS EVEN A QUESTION BUT KIND OF A PUSH.

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ARE THEY FLAGGING OUR LAWMAKERS ABOUT THIS? AS AUDITORS, ARE THEY SHOWING LIKE, HEY, YOU NEED TO PAY ATTENTION TO THIS BECAUSE IT'S NOT AN ISOLATED DISTRICT WHO'S MISMANAGING MONEY.

THIS SHOWS A SYSTEMIC PROBLEM IN HOW WE'RE FUNDING OUR SCHOOLS.

AND SO I THINK THIS IS SOMETHING AS BOARD MEMBERS.

AS YOU'RE TALKING TO OTHER BOARDS, TO MAKE SURE THEY ARE AWARE OF THIS FIT TOOL.

THEY SHARED TODAY WE'RE ONE OF THE DISTRICTS THAT DOES USE THIS, COMMUNICATES IT OUT.

I'M NOT SURE HOW MANY PEOPLE UNDERSTAND THAT THIS IS A TOOL THAT CAN BE USED.

WELL, AND THAT 191 REPRESENTS 65% OF THE DISTRICTS.

SO, YEAH, WE'RE IN GOOD COMPANY.

WHAT WAS YOUR TAKEAWAY FROM YOUR ANSWER? SORRY, YOUR QUESTION.

I DON'T THINK THEY REALLY HAD AN ANSWER FOR IT.

I MEAN, IT WAS, WELL, IT'S NOT OUR RESPONSIBILITY.

IT'S THE LEGISLATOR'S RESPONSIBILITY, WHICH, TRUE.

BUT EVERYBODY'S SORT OF SHIRKING IT, AND THE CHALLENGE IS THE SCHOOL DISTRICTS ARE THE ONES THAT HAVE TO DEAL WITH IT.

YOU KNOW, I FACETIOUSLY SAID TO THEM, WELL, WE COULD MAKE OUR FUND BALANCE BETTER.

WE'LL JUST NOT PAY YOU FOR THIS AUDIT UNTIL NEXT YEAR BECAUSE THAT'S, YOU KNOW, KIND OF WHAT THE STATE HAS DONE IN SOME REGARDS.

BUT...

WE KEEP GETTING MORE AND MORE REQUIREMENTS, MORE DOING THIS, AND LESS MONEY TO DO IT.

AND THEN THEY WONDER WHY WE'RE THIS WAY AND SAY, WELL, YOU SHOULDN'T BE THAT WAY.

YES, PLEASE.

OH, SORRY.

I WAS GOING TO SAY, AS A POTENTIAL WAY, BECAUSE IT'S A LITTLE BIT OUT OF THEIR SCOPE, BUT I THINK IN TERMS OF THEIR ABILITY TO SHARE INFORMATION WITH THE LAWMAKERS.

THEY'RE UNIQUELY POSITIONED, SO IT MAY BE EFFECTIVE FOR US TO LOBBY OR ENCOURAGE OUR REPRESENTATIVES TO ASK SAO TO COME GIVE REPORTS THAT WOULD OPEN UP THE AVENUE FOR THAT CONVERSATION FOR SAO TO BE ABLE TO THEN GO BACK AND GIVE MORE HOLISTIC OPINIONS, BECAUSE THEY ARE UNIQUELY POSITIONED BY EVALUATING ALL 295 SCHOOL DISTRICTS AND BEING ABLE TO SHARE.

KIND OF A LARGE-SCALE PERSPECTIVE THAT ISN'T NECESSARILY WITHIN THEIR CHARTER.

AND I THINK THAT'S WELL SAID BECAUSE OUR LEGISLATORS SEEM TO UNDERSTAND IT, BUT THEY'RE HAVING TROUBLE GETTING THE REST TO, BUT GETTING MORE AGENCIES, MORE PEOPLE TO SAY THE SAME STORY STARTS TO GET THE POINT ACROSS.

AND ESPECIALLY IF THEY'RE HEARING IT FROM THE PEOPLE WHOSE JOB IT IS TO MONITOR AND WATCH WHAT WE'RE DOING.

AND WHEN THEY CAN GO BACK AND SAY, YES, THEY'RE DOING A VERY GOOD JOB MANAGING THE FINANCES THEY HAVE AVAILABLE TO THEM, BUT THIS IS A BIGGER SYSTEMIC PROBLEM, IT MAY HIT DIFFERENTLY WITH SOME OF THE OTHER REPS.

SO THOSE FIT NUMBERS WERE LIKE FOR THE ENTIRE LAST YEAR, RIGHT, AS OPPOSED TO THE MOST RECENT MONTH? YES.

OKAY.

YEAH, SO IT WOULD BE FOR THE 24-25 SCHOOL YEAR, SO THE LAST AUDITED FINANCIAL STATEMENT.

AND THIS IS AVAILABLE ON THE WASHINGTON STATE AUDITOR WEBSITE.

THERE'S A LITTLE LINK THAT SAYS FIT TOOL.

AND YOU CAN LOOK UP ANY GOVERNMENT IN THE STATE.

SO I APPLAUD SAO FOR HAVING SOMETHING LIKE THIS BECAUSE I DO THINK THIS IS A GREAT COMMUNICATION TOOL TO GET THE WORD OUT THERE.

AND, BOARD, I WILL BE SENDING YOU SOME OF THE INFORMATION FROM TODAY, AND I WILL HAVE THIS LINKED IN AN EMAIL TO YOU.

SO IF YOU DON'T FIND IT RIGHT AWAY, YOU'LL HAVE THE LINK.

AND SO THIS IS, YEAH, THIS WAS PROBABLY THE LAST PART OF THE AUDIT REPORT.

WE DID HAVE SOME RECOMMENDATIONS THAT WERE MADE.

WE DID HAVE A FINDING.

AND THEN, BUT I GUESS THE GOOD NEWS IN ALL OF IT, OUR FINANCIAL AND FEDERAL AUDITS WERE COMPLETELY CLEAN.

SO NO ISSUES, NO CONCERNS.

SO GOOD NEWS.

AND EVEN THE FINDING WASN'T FINANCIAL.

LIKE IT DOESN'T HAVE ANY FINANCIAL, IT'S JUST A SYSTEM PIECE.

AND OUR TEAM, IT HAD TO DO, I'VE TALKED TO YOU A LITTLE BIT ABOUT IT, IT HAD TO DO WITH ALE PAPERWORK.

AND SO OUR TEAM IS ALREADY GETTING THAT ALL PUT TOGETHER, CLEANED UP, HAVING CONVERSATIONS ABOUT IT.

AND AS A SUPERINTENDENT, HOW I KIND OF LOOK AT IT IS ANYTIME YOU HAVE SOMETHING LIKE THAT, ALL IT DOES IS MAKE YOU BETTER.

ALL RIGHT, SO THE FIRST TOPIC, WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT POSITIONAL BUDGETING.

SO WITH OUR MIGRATION TO CUMULATIVE, WE WERE...

OUR OLD SYSTEM USED TO BE CALLED SKYWARD.

THE NEW ONE IS CUMULATIVE.

IT HAS SOME CAPABILITIES ON THE HR STAFFING SIDE THAT WE DIDN'T USED TO HAVE.

SO WE'RE MOVING TO WHAT WE CALL POSITIONAL BUDGETING, WHICH IS KIND OF A SHIFT IN THE WAY WE THINK ABOUT STAFFING.

IN THE PAST, WE STAFFED BASED ON PEOPLE, LIKE THIS PERSON DOES THIS JOB, AND NOW IT'S...

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HERE'S A POSITION, AND WE MOVE A PERSON INTO THAT POSITION.

SO THAT WAY WE HAVE CONTINUITY, SO WE COULD ALWAYS LOOK AT, LIKE, WHO WAS THE THIRD GRADE TEACHER IN THIS POSITION NUMBER IN THIS BUILDING FOR, YOU KNOW, AS MANY YEARS AS WE HAVE THAT DATA.

SO IT'S JUST KIND OF A SHIFT.

AND I DON'T KNOW IF, CARRIE, YOU WANT TO JUMP IN AND, OR MARK, TO TALK ABOUT POSITIONAL BUDGETING AND KIND OF HOW.

I THINK FOR HR, IT'S GOING TO MAKE THINGS A LOT EASIER DOING POSITIONAL BUDGETING BECAUSE, LIKE HOLLY WAS SAYING, IT USED TO BE HOLLY GRAHAM, THIRD GRADE TEACHER.

OKAY, WE KNOW SHE RETIRED, BUT WE HAVE TO HOLD HER NAME IN THE BUDGET BECAUSE SHE'S HOLDING THAT POSITION UNTIL WE HIRE SOMEONE IN.

AND NOW IT'S JUST POSITION NUMBER 1025, THIRD GRADE AT SKYLINE.

SO IT'S GOING TO MAKE IT A LOT CLEANER TO TRACK, SO YOU'RE NOT LOSING TRACK OF WHO.

IT'S MORE OF THE POSITION STAYS THE POSITION REGARDLESS OF WHO GETS PLACED IN IT.

AND THE OTHER BIG ADVANTAGE IS THAT IT WILL GIVE US KIND OF AN EASIER METHODS OF RECONCILING WHAT OUR STAFFING MODELS SAY WE SHOULD HAVE VERSUS WHAT IS ACTUALLY IN THE SYSTEM.

IN THE PAST THAT'S BEEN A REALLY CUMBERSOME PROCESS OF GETTING THE INFORMATION THAT WE NEED OUT OF SKYWARD SO WE ARE STILL KIND OF TRANSITIONING AND FIGURING OUT ALL THE BUGS AND GETTING IT GETTING IT DONE SO IT'S KIND OF A WORK IN PROGRESS BUT I THINK IT'S REALLY GOING TO MAKE US STRONGER.

THE OTHER THING IS I ONLY KNOW OF ONE OTHER DISTRICT THAT'S DOING BUDGETING THIS WAY, POSITIONAL BUDGETING, AND WE'VE TALKED A LOT TO THAT DISTRICT.

IT'S RENTON.

SO IT'S SOMETHING MARK AND KARA AND I ARE REALLY EXCITED ABOUT.

MARK, I KNOW YOU WANT TO JUMP IN.

WELL, THIS IS ONE OF THOSE, IT SEEMS LIKE A VERY NUANCED, SUBTLE CHANGE, BUT IT IS REALLY TRANSFORMATIVE IN TERMS OF THE WAY WE.

STAFF AND THE WAY WE'RE ABLE TO ACTUALLY ACCOUNT FOR CHANGES IN THE SYSTEM.

SO WHEN SOMEBODY DOES RETIRE OR LEAVE OR ANYTHING HAPPENS, THAT POSITION NUMBER STAYS THE SAME.

SO WHEN WE SET THE BUDGET, WE BASICALLY LIST ALL 700 POSITIONS THAT WILL EXIST NEXT YEAR IN THE BUDGET, AND THEY ALL HAVE A UNIQUE NUMBER.

IF ONE OF THOSE PEOPLE THAT IS ASSIGNED TO...

THE POSITION LEAVES, THE JOB POSTING WILL HAVE THAT POSITION NUMBER TIED TO IT.

SO WE KNOW WHAT POSITION IS ACTUALLY VACATED AND THAT NUMBER THEN FOLLOWS ALL THE WAY THROUGH THE PROCESS FOR ANY CHANGE OR MODIFICATION THAT IS MADE TO THAT PARTICULAR POSITION.

IF SOMEBODY LEAVES THEIR POSITION AND GOES INTO THAT POSITION, WE NOW HAVE A VERY EASY WAY TO TRACK AND RECONCILE.

DO WE HAVE FTE AVAILABLE IN THE BUDGET TO HIRE OR A PARTIAL FTE BECAUSE SOMEBODY TOOK A PARTIAL LEAVE.

IT MAKES THE ACCOUNTABILITY AND OUR ABILITY TO KNOW AT ANY ONE TIME WHAT POSITIONS ARE AVAILABLE, WHICH ONES ARE OPEN, YOU KNOW, WHO IS A LEAVE REPLACEMENT FOR WHOM.

AND IT'S ON ALL THE PAPERWORK AND MATCHES THROUGHOUT THE SYSTEM.

SO THERE'S NO VERY LITTLE MARGIN FOR ERROR.

AND THE SYSTEM IS LOCKED DOWN IN SUCH A WAY THAT A POSITION CANNOT BE ADDED WITHOUT GOING THROUGH THE CONTROL PROCESS THAT WE KNOW THAT WE ARE ACTUALLY ADDING A POSITION TO THE BUDGET.

SO IF I UNDERSTAND RIGHT, SO LIKE OUR TEACHERS THAT ARE DOING KINDERGARTEN AND FIRST, SECOND GRADE KIND OF DOING, THEY ARE GOING TO MOVE FROM POSITION ONE TO TWO TO THREE AS OPPOSED TO THAT POSITION.

OKAY, THAT MAKES SENSE.

SO, I MEAN, IT SAYS THAT IT'S POSITION-BASED, BUT THEN THERE'S ALSO A PEOPLE ASPECT TO IT IN THAT, YOU KNOW, THERE'S PAY BASED ON EXPERIENCE AND, YOU KNOW, DEGREES THAT THEY'VE ACHIEVED AND ALL THOSE KIND OF THINGS.

SO WHERE DOES THAT ENTER INTO IT? SO WHEN WE HAVE AN OPEN POSITION IN THE BUDGET, WE...

ALWAYS PLACE THAT POSITION HELD AT AN AVERAGE OF WHAT OUR TYPICAL TEACHERS MAKE.

SO WE DON'T JUST PUT IT AT THE STARTING SALARY BECAUSE WE KNOW VERY RARELY OR WE CAN HAVE A TEACHER COME IN AT THE STARTING SALARY.

SO HR MAINTAINS LIKE AN AVERAGE OF WHERE OUR TEACHERS LAND AND WE'LL BUDGET THAT AMOUNT FOR AN OPEN POSITION.

AND THEN USUALLY DEPENDING ON HOW MANY POSITIONS WE HAVE OPEN, DEPENDING ON WHO WE HIRE AND THEIR MASTER'S LEVEL OR SALARY LEVEL AND YEARS OF EXPERIENCE, IT KIND OF FALLS IN LINE WITH HOW WE BUDGET FOR IT.

HOW WOULD YOU DESCRIBE HOW IT USED TO BE IF YOU WERE TO DESCRIBE WHEN IT WASN'T POSITIONAL BUDGETING? HOW WOULD YOU DESCRIBE IT? IT WAS PEOPLE-BASED.

IT WAS PERSON-BASED.

SO WE WOULD BUDGET YOU.

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IN YOUR POSITION AT WHATEVER SCHOOL YOU WERE ASSIGNED TO LAST YEAR.

SO ANY CHANGE TO YOU THEN WOULD BE A COMPLETELY INDEPENDENT, UNRELATED CHANGE THAT WE WOULD HAVE TO REMEMBER, WE WOULD HAVE TO HOPE WE HAD ACCURATE PAPERWORK, HOPE WE COULD FIND THE PAPERWORK THAT LINKED THOSE TWO THINGS TOGETHER, OR THREE THINGS DEPENDING ON HOW MANY CHANGES HAPPENED THROUGHOUT THE YEAR.

IT WAS VERY PERSON-FOCUSED.

SO, YEAH, IN THE CASE WHEN SOMEBODY RETIRED, WE'RE HIRING SOMEBODY NEW, SOMEBODY'S OLD, THE OTHER PERSON'S NAME WOULD REMAIN IN THERE IN THE BUDGET.

AND IT CREATED A LOT OF CONFUSION AS TO DID WE BUDGET THIS PERSON? DID WE BUDGET THAT POSITION? BECAUSE IN THE CASE NOW WHERE WE'RE GOING TO HAVE FEWER POSITIONS NEXT YEAR THAN WE HAVE THIS YEAR, TRACKING THOSE MOVEMENTS OF PEOPLE BECOMES VERY DIFFICULT.

SO WHAT THIS DOES, IT'S...

WE TALKED A LITTLE BIT ABOUT EARLIER TODAY, IT'S A LITTLE BIT LIKE AN INVENTORY SYSTEM FOR THE POSITIONS.

SO JUST LIKE WE HAVE AN ASSET TAG ON EVERYBODY'S COMPUTER, WE HAVE A POSITION NUMBER THAT TRACKS MY ASSET TAG.

BUT IT'S NOT ON ME, IT'S ON THE POSITION.

AND I MAY BE IN A DIFFERENT POSITION NEXT YEAR, SO I'VE GOT A DIFFERENT NUMBER.

SO WE'RE TRACKING THAT WE'RE BASICALLY, ARE ALL THE CHAIRS FULL? IT'S LIKE MUSICAL CHAIRS, ARE ALL THE CHAIRS FULL? EVERY CHAIR HAS A NUMBER AND MAKES IT A LITTLE EASIER TO DO IT.

IT WAS A LITTLE MORE, YEAH, IT WAS VERY PEOPLE-ORIENTED PREVIOUSLY.

SO DOES THIS MEAN THAT JOB DESCRIPTIONS WILL BE MORE CONSISTENT, KEEPING TRACK OF THE ORGANIZATIONAL CHART WILL BE MORE EASIER TO DO BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, THINGS CHANGE AND YOU TRACK THEM.

THEY CHANGE IN REAL TIME AND YOU CAN JUST ADJUST.

THE INFORMATION THAT PEOPLE SEE.

I'M JUST CURIOUS BECAUSE IT SEEMS TO ME LIKE THERE MIGHT BE SOME ADDITIONAL BENEFITS TO THIS.

I WOULD SAY YES.

IN THE APPLICANT TRACKING SYSTEM, THE POSITION NUMBER WILL ALWAYS HAVE THE JOB DESCRIPTION ATTACHED TO THAT POSITION NUMBER.

IT WON'T BE BASED ON WHO DID THE JOB BEFORE.

IT'S THE JOB DESCRIPTIONS ATTACHED TO THE POSITION VERSUS THIS PERSON TOOK ON THIS EXTRA TASK THAT'S NOT ATTACHED TO THAT JOB.

I THINK OF IT THIS WAY AS A SUPERINTENDENT, BECAUSE THAT'S THE BUSINESS SIDE OF IT, BUT THERE'S A WHOLE TEACHING AND LEARNING SIDE OF THIS, TOO.

AND THE AMOUNT OF TIME WHEN WE HAVE OPEN POSITIONS THAT WE ALL HAVE TO COME TOGETHER, WE ALL HAVE TO BRING OUR CHARTS, HAVE A CONVERSATION.

WHERE IS THAT IN BUDGET? I MEAN, IT'S JUST TIME CONSUMING, SO THIS IS MUCH MORE EFFICIENT.

BUT HOW HR TALKS ABOUT POSITIONS IS DIFFERENT THAN HOW FINANCE TALKS ABOUT POSITIONS.

WHICH IS DIFFERENT THAN HOW TEACHING AND LEARNING TALKS ABOUT IT.

SO THIS IS ESSENTIALLY CREATING ONE LANGUAGE THAT WE'RE ALL USING TO TALK ABOUT THE POSITIONS.

NOW, WE'LL GO OFF INTO OUR PART AND DO OUR, YOU KNOW, HOLLY WILL MAKE SURE THAT THE FINANCE PART'S THERE, KARA'S DOING HER PART, BUT WE'RE ALL COMING WITH THE EXACT SAME TYPE OF SPREADSHEET INSTEAD OF EVERYONE HAVING TO HOLD THEIR OWN SPREADSHEETS TO KEEP TRACK OF IT.

IT'S VERY CUMBERSOME CURRENTLY.

AND BECAUSE YOU DON'T WANT TO MISS ANYTHING, THE HOURS BEHIND IT IS IMMENSE.

AND SO THIS IS GOING TO BE MUCH MORE EFFICIENT.

I'M ACTUALLY VERY, VERY GIDDY ABOUT IT.

SO TO PEGGY'S POINT, HOW IS IT COMING AS FAR AS INVENTORYING OF THE POSITIONS AND THEN THE JOB DESCRIPTIONS THAT ARE TIED TO THOSE NUMBERS? SO WE HAVEN'T TRANSITIONED TO APPLICANT TRACKING AND CUMULATIVE YET UNTIL WE FINISH THIS PROJECT.

AND THEN WE WILL START ON OUR INTEGRATION IN FASTTRACK IN.

CUMULATIVE AND THEN THAT POSITION LIKE MARK WAS SAYING THAT POSITION NUMBER WILL FOLLOW THAT POSITION THROUGH EVERYTHING SO WHEN WE GO TO POST IT IT HAS A NUMBER ATTACHED AND THE JOB DESCRIPTION IS ALREADY ATTACHED TO THAT NUMBER BECAUSE IT'S AN ELEMENTARY SCHOOL TEACHER AND IT HAS THAT JOB DESCRIPTION ATTACHED TO THAT POSITION NUMBER AND THEN WHEN THAT GETS POSTED THAT'LL HAVE IT THERE AND THEN WHEN WE HIRE THE PERSON WE ASSIGN THEM INTO THAT POSITION AND THEN IT FOLLOWS THEM THROUGHOUT AND THEN IT'S A FIVE YEARS DOWN THE ROAD LEAVE THAT POSITION NUMBER IS STILL THERE, AND THEN IT STILL GOES BACK TO POSTING.

SO IT KIND OF STAYS WITH THE POSITION VERSUS THE PERSON.

SO IT'LL KEEP EVERYTHING STREAMLINED IN THE SYSTEM, SO YOU'LL BE ABLE TO SEE IT AT EVERY STEP.

WHEREAS RIGHT NOW, WE POST A JOB, SOMEONE GETS HIRED, THEN THEY GET ENTERED INTO Q, SO IT'S VERY SEPARATE.

AND THEN, LIKE WE SAID, IT'S, YOU KNOW, OH, WHERE WAS THAT IN BUDGET? OH, WELL, THAT WAS ROBERT SMITH, WHO RETIRED TWO YEARS AGO, WHO THEN BECAME NORA JONES.

AND THEN.

YOU KNOW, YOU HAD TO REMEMBER THE PEOPLE TO FIGURE OUT WHERE IT WAS HELD.

AND WHEN I CAME IN NEW, IT WAS, I DIDN'T KNOW WHO THAT PERSON

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WAS, BUT I KNEW THAT'S WHAT THAT POSITION WAS IN THE BUDGET BECAUSE I HAD TO LEARN.

HOW HR TRACKED IT, SO IT WAS AN INTERESTING PROCESS.

SO IT'S NOT THERE YET AS FAR AS, LIKE, IF WE WENT INTO THE SYSTEM AND LOOKED AT CHRISTY'S JOB DESCRIPTION, THAT'S NOT IN THERE YET.

IT'S NOT SET UP COMPLETELY YET.

NO, IT'S IN FASTTRACK, THE OLD SKYWARD.

OKAY.

BUT IT'S NOT TRANSITIONED TO THE NEW QUEUE YET.

OKAY, GOT IT.

BUT THAT'S PART OF THIS PROCESS, YEAH.

IN ALL HONESTY, THAT'S BEEN PART OF THE REVIEW OF HR. WE DIDN'T EVEN HAVE JOB DESCRIPTIONS FOR EVERY JOB.

BECAUSE SOME PEOPLE HAVE BEEN IN IT FOR A LONG TIME AND NOT SURE HOW THEY GOT BROUGHT ON.

SO WE'RE ALSO HAVING TO WRITE A LOT OF JOB DESCRIPTIONS, AND WE UPDATED IN THE LAST YEAR EVERY JOB DESCRIPTION BECAUSE THERE WERE THINGS THAT THEY WERE OUT OF COMPLIANCE ON A LOT OF THINGS.

SO IT'S A REBUILD OF HR.

YEAH, I HAVE ALL THE JOB DESCRIPTIONS ON, AND I THINK, WELL, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WERE ON THE BOARD YET.

WHAT BOARD MEETING WAS THAT, SEPTEMBER? THERE'S AN OE REPORT THAT HAS ALL OF THE HR INFORMATION, AND SO I HAVE A TRACKING CHART, AND I MAKE SURE ALL OF THE JOB DESCRIPTIONS ARE UPDATED EVERY THREE YEARS, SO THEY'RE ALL ON A THREE-YEAR CYCLE, DEPENDING ON WHEN THEY WERE LAST UPDATED.

AND SO I HAVE A TRACKING SHEET THAT THE BOARD GETS A COPY OF, SO THEY KNOW WHEN THEY WERE LAST UPDATED AND HOW OFTEN WE UPDATE THEM.

THEN I CAN SHARE THAT WITH YOU IF YOU'D LIKE.

OKAY.

YEAH.

THE POSITION NUMBERS ARE ALREADY IN CUMULATIVE, SO WE'VE ALREADY ASSIGNED THOSE.

THE OTHER THING I JUST WANTED TO SAY WAS, JUST FROM A FINANCIAL STANDPOINT, SIMILAR TO HOW WE HAVE, HOPEFULLY YOU'VE HEARD THE TERMINOLOGY BEFORE, DRCS FOR EVERY BUDGET, WHERE IT KIND OF CHUNKS THE BUDGET DOWN INTO SMALLER PIECES, WE HAVE, WHAT DO WE CALL THEM, FTE GROUPS.

NO, FTA GROUPS, SO LIKE JOBS WILL BE...

GROUPED IN A GROUP SO WE CAN SAY, OKAY, DISTRICT-WIDE WE HAVE 25 THIRD-GRADE TEACHERS.

I DON'T KNOW WHY WE'RE PICKING ON THIRD-GRADE TEACHERS.

AND THEN WE SAY, OKAY, IN OUR STAFF ALLOCATION MODEL IT SAYS WE SHOULD HAVE 26.

WHAT'S THE OPEN POSITION? SO THERE'S JUST A LOT BETTER WAYS THAT WE CAN JUST RECONCILE QUICKER JUST WITH THOSE GROUPS.

SO IT JUST KIND OF CHUNKS THOSE THINGS OUT INTO SMALLER, MORE MANAGEABLE GROUPS.

DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON POSITIONAL BUDGETING BEFORE WE MOVE ON? I WOULD JUST ADD THIS IS ONE OF OUR COST SAVINGS.

SO OUR TIME IS A RESOURCE THAT WE HAVE TO MANAGE.

SO I THINK I'VE SHARED WITH YOU BEFORE, LIKE EVERY SINGLE TIME WE HAVE A MEETING, I'M ADDING UP THE SALARIES IN THE ROOM AND ASKING, IS THAT WORTH THE OUTCOME OF THAT MEETING FOR WHAT IT COSTS THE ORGANIZATION? SO ANYTIME WE CAN BUILD EFFICIENCIES LIKE THIS, IT'S A COST-SAVINGS MECHANISM BECAUSE NOW INSTEAD OF US SPENDING HALF A DAY TRYING TO FIGURE OUT THE HISTORY ON TWO POSITIONS, WE'RE COMING IN, WE'RE PULLING OUT A REPORT, MAKING A DECISION, AND MOVING ON.

SO IT'S GOING TO BE A COST-SAVINGS TOOL AS WELL.

DO THE POSITIONS THEN TRANSLATE IN OR THAT TO THE PROTOTYPICAL FUNDING MODEL? WE DON'T REALLY TIE.

NOT THAT WE LOVE THAT MODEL, BUT.

THEY DON'T REALLY TIE.

I MEAN, TO A CERTAIN EXTENT, WE COULD MAYBE DRAW THE, BUT IT'S JUST THE PROTOTYPICAL STAFFING MODEL DOESN'T FUND US FOR NEARLY ENOUGH POSITIONS THAT WE HAVE.

I WAS GOING TO SAY, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE K-3 LATER.

YEAH.

AND I CAN EXPLAIN HOW IT FITS INTO THAT, BUT YEAH.

MAYBE MORE TO COME ON THAT LATER, KIND OF IN A SIMILAR.

THE OTHER THING.

IT KIND OF JUST.

THAT'S REALLY AN ALLOCATION MODEL AND NOT REALLY REFLECTIVE OF REALITY.

SO I THINK IT'S MORE LIKE HOLLY SAID, WHEN WE LOOK AT A LITTLE BIT LATER, WE'RE GOING TO LOOK AT THE STAFF ALLOCATION MODEL, WHICH IS HOW WE ASSIGN, LIKE BASED ON THE ENROLLMENT, HOW MANY TEACHERS DO WE NEED AT EACH GRADE LEVEL.

SO I THINK IT TIES MORE TO THAT, RIGHT, BECAUSE IT INFORMS HOW MANY POSITIONS WE HAVE OR AS WE'RE GOING THROUGH AND LOOKING AT OUR STAFFING BASED ON.

YOU KNOW, HOW MANY CUSTODIANS DO WE NEED OR HOW MANY DIFFERENT POSITIONS DO WE NEED? SO WE'RE KIND OF BLOCKING THEM OUT THAT WAY.

THE PROTOTYPICAL MODEL IS HOW WE'RE FUNDED, BUT IT DOESN'T REALLY REPRESENT HOW WE'RE SPENDING OR HOW WE'RE STAFFING.

THE LAST THING I WOULD SAY ABOUT POSITIONAL BUDGETING IS WE'RE REALLY, OUR GOAL, KIND OF THE OVERALL THING IS TO BUILD A SYSTEM THAT WILL OUTLIVE ALL OF US.

AND SO, YOU KNOW, AS PEOPLE...

COME INTO THE APARTMENT AND IT WILL JUST BE THIS IS THE SYSTEM THIS IS HOW THE WAY WE DO IT YOU KNOW SOMETIMES IN THE PAST THERE'S CLASSIFIED STAFFING IS

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DIFFERENT THAN CERTIFICATED STAFFING, SO WE'RE REALLY TRYING TO JUST KIND OF MAKE A SYSTEM THAT EVERYBODY DOES IT THE SAME WAY AND EFFICIENCY THING THAT CHRISTY SAID THERE'S PART OF THAT TOO.

OKAY IN JANUARY YOU ALL DID A SURVEY AND I JUST WANT TO REMIND YOU OF WHAT KIND OF THAT WE'VE BEEN KEEPING THESE KIND OF IN THE FOREFRONT OF OUR MIND AS WE'VE BEEN WORKING THROUGH THE BUDGET PROCESS.

SO THE TOP TWO PRIORITIES FROM THE GOAL AREAS OF THE STRATEGIC PLAN WERE SAFETY AND BELONGING AND MASTERY OF STANDARDS.

AND THEN WE ALSO ASKED ABOUT FINANCIAL COMMITMENTS AND THE BOARD PRIORITIZED MEETING OUR FUND BALANCE POLICY AND ALSO THE FACILITIES RENEWAL PLAN.

THE FACILITIES RENEWAL PLAN IS A LITTLE TOUGHER SELL BECAUSE OF THEIR SHORTFALL OF CASH.

SO WE'RE DOING WHAT WE CAN.

IS THERE ANYTHING YOU WANT TO SAY MORE ABOUT THAT, MARK? THAT'S ONE OF THOSE WE'RE CONTINUING TO LOOK AT.

WHAT CAN WE FUND WITH WHAT WE HAVE AVAILABLE? AND I KNOW JAMIE'S WORKING ON AN EXERCISE RIGHT NOW TO KIND OF LOOK AT SOME OF THE MONEY.

LIKE WE DIDN'T SPEND A LOT OF MONEY ON SNOW REMOVAL THIS YEAR.

SO WE'VE GOT A LITTLE BIT OF FUNDING THAT WAS SET ASIDE.

THAT WE CAN NOW HOPEFULLY PRIORITIZE TOWARDS, IF WE DON'T SPEND IT ALL ON THE FIXING THE WATER LEAK HERE, SOME OF THE PROJECTS.

YOU KNOW, WE'RE DOING A LIGHTING PROJECT AT CASCADIA THIS SUMMER, AN LED UPGRADE THAT WAS ON OUR FACILITY RENEWAL LIST THAT WAS ON THERE FOR, I THINK, SEVERAL HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS.

WE'RE DOING IT IN-HOUSE WITH GRANTS THROUGH PSE AND WITH OUR OWN LABOR.

SO WE'RE LOOKING AT WHAT WE CAN DO BASED ON THE BUDGET WE HAVE AND THEN IDENTIFYING THE THINGS THAT MAYBE WE'RE NOT ABLE TO GET TO THAT WE NEED A DIFFERENT FUNDING SOURCE AND WHAT CAN GET BUMPED INTO NEXT YEAR VERSUS.

SO WE'LL HAVE AN UPDATE ON THAT HERE IN THE NEXT FEW WEEKS AS WE GET INTO SUMMER.

BUT THAT'S WHAT WE KNEW WAS GOING TO BE KIND OF A STRUGGLE.

EVERY YEAR UNTIL FUNDING REALLY LOOSENS UP, WHICH DOESN'T LOOK LIKE IT'S GOING TO HAPPEN EVER.

SO THAT'S ONE THAT WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUALLY KIND OF TRY TO LOOK AT.

HOW DO WE, YOU KNOW, ENTERTAIN THE POSSIBILITY OF A CAPITAL PROJECTS LEVY OR SOME OTHER MEANS OF INJECTING FUNDING IN ORDER TO MEET THOSE NEEDS? ONE OF THE OTHER THINGS THAT WE'RE ALSO LOOKING AT ON THAT, AND THAT'S A BIT OF A BIRD WALK, BUT...

WE'RE HAVING SOME CONVERSATIONS WITH OSPI TO MAYBE PILOT A MORE DETAILED, MORE ENHANCED CAPITAL FACILITY STUDY, WHICH IS FUNDED THROUGH A GRANT FROM OSPI EVERY SIX YEARS IN ORDER TO BE ELIGIBLE FOR STATE MATCH FUNDING FOR PROJECTS.

AND WE ARE ASKING, KIND OF WORKING ON A DEAL BETWEEN THEM AND CSG.

TO TRY TO DO A LITTLE MORE DETAILED ANALYSIS INSTEAD OF JUST, YOU KNOW, THE KIND OF THE GENERIC, YOUR BUILDINGS ARE OLD AND NEED REPLACED, TO GIVE US SOME MORE ACTIONABLE DATA THAT KIND OF ALIGNS WITH OUR SPREADSHEET THAT WE ALREADY DID AND POSSIBLY OPEN UP FOR SOME, EITHER SOME BETTER COMMUNICATIONS AROUND FACILITY NEEDS OR SOME OTHER AVENUES TO FUNDING THROUGH THE STATE.

SO WE'LL KEEP YOU APPRISED.

ON THAT AS IT AS THAT CONTINUES TO DEVELOP BUT IT'S KIND OF A NEW MAYBE A WINDOW OF OPPORTUNITY THAT WE CAN LEVERAGE INTO SOME BENEFIT.

MARK COULD YOU ROUGHLY TALK ABOUT WHAT WE WOULD NEED TO BUDGET EACH YEAR TO? IT AVERAGES OUT TO ABOUT I THINK IT WAS SIX MILLION DOLLARS TO FULLY EXECUTE THE PLAN AS AS COST OUT SO THAT'S PART OF WHAT JAMIE'S WORKING ON.

BECAUSE LIKE THE LIGHTING PROJECT THAT WE'RE GOING TO DO FOR $100,000, I THINK IS IN THE BUDGET FOR $600,000 OR MORE BECAUSE OF THE LABOR.

SO THERE ARE CERTAIN THINGS THAT WE CAN LEVERAGE THAT WE CAN GET THAT PRICE WAY DOWN.

SO IS THE SIX REALLY THREE? THAT'S KIND OF WHAT WE'RE WORKING ON FERRETING OUT.

OKAY, SO THE F-195 IS THE SCHOOL DISTRICT ANNUAL BUDGET, AND PER STATUTE WE HAVE TO HAVE A SUBSTANTIALLY COMPLETE BUDGET BY JULY 10TH OF EVERY YEAR.

AND BY SUBSTANTIALLY COMPLETE DOESN'T MEAN IT HAS TO BE ADOPTED OR APPROVED, WE JUST HAVE TO HAVE SOMETHING TO PRESENT TO THE PUBLIC IF THEY COME IN TO WANT TO SEE IT.

AND WE POSTED IT ON OUR WEBSITE TOO.

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WE TRY AND GET IT DONE BY THEN, BUT...

SOMETIMES GRANT FUNDING OR OTHER THINGS COME IN LATE AND WE AREN'T A, YOU KNOW, WE DO MAKE CHANGES AFTER JULY 10TH, BUT WE REALLY SHOOT FOR THAT JULY 10TH DATE.

THE BUDGET IS AN ESTIMATE.

WE USE HISTORICAL DATA, ASSUMPTIONS, AND JUST WHAT WE KNOW AT THE TIME THAT THE BUDGET IS PREPARED, WHICH OFTENTIMES IS NOT EVERYTHING.

AFTER THE BUDGET HAS BEEN APPROVED AND ADOPTED, IT SERVES AS A GUIDELINE FOR DECISION MAKING.

AND THEN WE INCLUDE CAPACITY AND CONTINGENCY BUDGETS IN REVENUE AND EXPENDITURES FOR THINGS THAT WE'RE NOT AWARE OF AT THE TIME THE BUDGET IS PREPARED.

THOSE ARE ALWAYS SELF-BALANCING, SO WE, LIKE SAY WE GOT A GRANT FOR $50,000 WE DIDN'T KNOW.

WE HAVE REVENUE BUILT INTO THE BUDGET AND EXPENDITURE BUILT IN TO ACCOUNT FOR THOSE, SO WE DON'T HAVE TO COME BACK TO THE BUDGET WITH A BUDGET EXTENSION.

AND THE LIFE CYCLE OF THE BUDGET IS ABOUT 20 MONTHS BECAUSE WE START TALKING ABOUT IT VERY EARLY, WAY BEFORE IT GOES INTO EFFECT.

THE OTHER FUNDS, WE HAVE FIVE FUNDS.

WE HAVE GENERAL FUND IN ADDITION TO ALL THESE FUNDS ON THE SCREEN.

BUT I THINK THE CAPITAL PROJECT, DEBT SERVICE, AND TRANSPORTATION VEHICLE FUND, WE...

DON'T TALK ABOUT AS MUCH BECAUSE THERE'S NOT A LOT OF ACTIVITY THAT HAPPENS IN THEM.

CAPITAL PROJECTS IS FOR DOING CAPITAL REPAIRS OR BUILDING BUILDINGS, SO NOT A LOT HAPPENING IN THERE RIGHT NOW SINCE WE BUILT THE NEW HIGH SCHOOL.

THE DEBT SERVICE FUND IS JUST EXCLUSIVELY FOR PAYING OUR DEBT ON OUR BONDS.

THE TRANSPORTATION VEHICLE FUND IS FOR BUYING SCHOOL BUSES OR DOING MAJOR REPAIRS.

AND THEN THE ASB FUND, THE BUDGETS ARE SET BY THE PRINCIPALS AND ASB ADVISORS IN THE SCHOOLS WITH THE STUDENTS' HELP.

ASB FOLLOWS THE SAME RULES, LAWS, AND REGULATIONS AS ALL OF THE OTHER FUNDS.

SOMETIMES THERE'S SOME CONFUSION THINKING IT'S JUST THE STUDENTS' MONEY AND IT'S NOT.

IT'S THE DISTRICT'S MONEY AND WE'RE RESPONSIBLE FOR IT AND IT'S SUBJECT TO AUDIT JUST LIKE THE REST OF OUR FUNDS.

TYPICALLY THE SCHOOLS THE ASBS PREPARE THEIR BUDGET SO THEY HAVE REVENUES EQUAL EXPENDITURES AND THEN THE YEAR-END FUND BALANCE REPORTS FOR ASB ARE POSTED ON OUR WEBSITE THAT'S THERE'S A STATUTE THAT SAYS WE HAVE TO KEEP I BELIEVE THREE YEARS ON SO SO IF YOU GO TO ASB ON THE WEBSITE YOU'LL SEE THOSE REPORTS CAN I ADD TO THERE'S GOING TO BE A LITTLE BIT OF A SHIFT ONCE THE IF YOU RECALL, WE'RE TRANSITIONING TO A NEW WEBSITE THROUGH PARENTSQUARE.

ONCE THAT'S COMPLETE, WHAT I AM WORKING WITH THE SECONDARY SCHOOLS ON IS THEY ARE GOING TO BEGIN POSTING THEIR MEETING MINUTES.

SO THOSE ARE CURRENTLY NOT, THEY'RE PUBLIC AT THE SCHOOL, BUT THEY'RE NOT PUBLIC TO YOU OR A COMMUNITY OR OTHER STUDENTS.

AND SO I'LL BE ASKING THAT THEY POST THEIR MEETING MINUTES AND THEIR MEETING SCHEDULE ON THEIR WEBSITE.

SO.

THE TRANSPARENCY OF WHAT'S APPROVED AND WHAT'S HAPPENING IN THOSE IS VERY CLEAR TO ALL OF US.

I HAD A QUESTION ON THE TRANSPORTATION VEHICLE FUNDING.

SINCE THEY CHANGED, LIKE, THE AMORTIZATION ON THE BUSES, DOES THAT MEAN WE HAVE TO BUDGET MORE FOR MAINTENANCE BECAUSE WE MIGHT HAVE MORE BREAKDOWNS AND STUFF LIKE THAT? I MEAN, IF WE'RE KEEPING THE BUSES LONGER.

AND HOW DO YOU CALCULATE THAT? HOW DO YOU? FIGURE THAT NUMBER, YEAH.

YES, AND THAT'S ONE OF THE UNKNOWN.

YEAH, THAT WILL BE KIND OF A REACTIVE.

SO ONCE THE WE'RE KIND OF FUNDED A YEAR BEHIND ON TRANSPORTATION, AND THEY TRY TO THAT'S ONE OF THE BETTER FUNDED PROGRAMS IN TERMS OF OPERATION.

IT'S NOT FULL, BUT IT'S CLOSER THAN MOST.

SO AS OUR EXPENDITURES GO UP.

IT SHOULD GENERATE ADDITIONAL REVENUE IN SUBSEQUENT YEARS.

BUT I FULLY EXPECT THAT WILL BE THE CASE.

SO IF YOU RUN THE EQUIPMENT LONGER, YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE MORE REPAIRS.

SO THAT'S AN UNFUNDED MANDATE.

I THINK AFTER A YEAR OR TWO, WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO BE ABLE TO KIND OF FIGURE THAT OUT A LITTLE BIT BETTER.

AS OF RIGHT NOW, WE COULD PROBABLY USE SOME INDUSTRY

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STANDARDS OR...

MAKE SOME GUESSES, BUT THEY WOULD BE PRETTY MUCH JUST THAT.

AND THE BUSES VARY.

YOU'LL GET GOOD BATCHES, AND YOU'LL GET BATCHES THAT MAYBE AREN'T SO GOOD.

YOU GOT SOME MANUFACTURING PRACTICES THAT WERE GOOD, AND MAYBE SOME THAT WEREN'T SO.

SO YOU'LL END UP WITH A FEW BUSES THAT JUST END UP WITH PROBLEMS, NO MATTER HOW OLD THEY ARE.

SO IT'S KIND OF...

A LITTLE BIT TOUGHER TO THEY AREN'T QUITE AS STANDARDIZED AND THEY'RE NOT ALL EXACTLY THE SAME SO IT'S MAKES IT A LITTLE BIT OF A GUESSING GAME SO IF YOU HAVE A YOU KNOW OLD FAITHFUL KIND OF BUS LIKE YOU KNOW EVERYBODY'S GOT A CAR THAT LIKE KEEPS GOING AND ARE YOU REQUIRED TO GET RID OF IT BY THE OKAY YOU CAN'T KEEP IT AND YOU CAN, AND WE AS A DISTRICT ENDED UP IN A SITUATION SEVERAL YEARS AGO, I THINK KEVIN PROBABLY REMEMBERS.

WE TRANSFERRED A LOT OF MONEY OUT OF GENERAL FUND TO BASICALLY REPLACE HALF OF OUR BUS FLEET BECAUSE WE HADN'T BEEN REPLACING THEM.

SO THE PROBLEM THAT YOU END UP WITH, ONCE THE BUSES FALL OFF OF THE DEPRECIATION SCHEDULE, YOU NO LONGER GET ANY REVENUE FOR THOSE BUSES.

SO IF THE MORE BUSES YOU GET THAT AREN'T EARNING REVENUE, THEN THE HARDER IT IS TO REPLACE THE BUSES, RIGHT? SO YOU'RE EARNING LESS AND HAVE SO YOU DEPLETE YOUR FUNDS.

YOU DON'T HAVE THE MONEY TO REPLACE THE BUSES AS THEY FALL OFF.

SO WE CAUGHT UP, AND THEN IT'S BEEN WE VERY INTENTIONALLY MADE SURE THAT EVERY TIME A BUS FALLS OFF THE DEPRECIATION SCHEDULE, WE REPLACE IT BECAUSE THEN WE END UP WITH ENOUGH MONEY COMING IN THROUGH THE DEPRECIATION TO BE ABLE TO REPLACE THE BUSES.

SO WE'VE GOT TO COMPLETELY RECALCULATE THAT NOW TO SEE WHERE WE FALL AND WHETHER WE END UP WITH SOME BUSES THAT ARE GOING A LITTLE BIT PAST OR NOT.

BUT HISTORICALLY, IF WE DIDN'T REPLACE THEM, WE WOULD FALL BEHIND AND NOT HAVE A FUND SELF-SUSTAINING, IF THAT MAKES SENSE.

YES, WE CAN, BUT IT MAY NOT PENCIL OUT.

WE'RE INCENTIVIZED TO REPLACE THEM AS SOON AS THEY FALL OFF THE DEPRECIATION SCHEDULE.

WHAT SHE SAID.

CAN YOU TURN THEM INTO PORTABLES? WE TRIED TO MAKE A DEAL WITH CTE TO TURN A COUPLE OF THEM INTO FOOD TRUCKS, BUT THAT FELL THROUGH.

I ALSO TRIED TO GET A RECRUITMENT BUS, BUT, YOU KNOW.

OKAY, MORE ON BUDGET PREPARATION.

SO THE FOCUS OF WHAT WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT FOR THE REST OF TONIGHT WILL BE THE GENERAL FUND, SINCE THAT'S THE MAJORITY OF WHERE ALL OF OUR THINGS HAPPEN.

WE STARTED DISCUSSIONS ABOUT THE 26-27 BUDGET IN SEPTEMBER, AS SOON AS THE NEW YEAR STARTED.

BOY, WE WERE TALKING ABOUT IT AGAIN.

THIS YEAR WAS A SHORT SESSION BY THE STATE LEGISLATURE, SO THERE WEREN'T A WHOLE LOT OF CHANGES THAT CAME DOWN OUT OF THAT SESSION.

EXTERNAL DEADLINES.

MAKE EARLY DISCUSSIONS ESSENTIAL AND WE'LL TALK A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT THE DEADLINES ON THE I THINK THE NEXT SLIDE AND LIKE I SAID EARLIER OUR GOAL IS TO HAVE ALL THE EXPENDITURES TIED TO THE STRATEGIC PLAN AND THEN BUDGETING IS A REALLY COLLABORATIVE PROCESS AND WE'VE BEEN VERY INTENTIONAL ABOUT JUST MAKING SURE EVERYBODY'S INVOLVED EVERY DEPARTMENT EVERY ADMINISTRATOR EVERYBODY SO SO DEADLINES, SO CERT STAFF, WE HAVE TO NOTIFY THEM OF REDUCTION ENFORCED BY MAY 15TH.

PSE, WHICH IS THE PARAEDUCATORS AND CHILD NUTRITION WORKERS, IN OUR COLLECTIVE BARGAINING AGREEMENT, WE NOTIFY THEM BY JUNE 1ST. AND THEN, LIKE I SAID EARLIER, SUBSTANTIALLY COMPLETE BUDGET DUE JULY 10TH.

SO THEY'RE KIND OF OUR BIG UPCOMING DATES, ONE OF THEM THIS FRIDAY.

KIND OF KEY CONCEPTS, AND WE'RE GOING TO START KIND OF GETTING INTO THE MEAT AND POTATOES OF THE BUDGET.

ENROLLMENT DRIVES STAFFING, SO NUMBER OF KIDS WE HAVE, AND THAT DRIVES OUR BIG APPORTIONMENT NUMBER, AND JUST EVERYTHING KIND OF HINGES ON THAT.

OUR ESTIMATED REVENUES DRIVE EXPENDITURES.

WE OBVIOUSLY CAN'T SPEND MORE THAN WE HAVE.

REVENUES ARE BUDGETED CONSERVATIVELY, AND EXPENDITURES ARE BUDGETED TO REFLECT POTENTIAL MAXIMUM OBLIGATIONS.

SO WE...

ALWAYS KIND OF WORST CASE SCENARIO THINK HOW MUCH CAN SOMETHING POSSIBLY COST AND YEAH PLAN FOR I HATE

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TO SAY THE WORST, BUT JUST LIKE I SAID EARLIER, BUDGET CAPACITY IS BUILT IN FOR UNKNOWN REVENUES AND EXPENDITURES.

I WAS JUST GOING TO SAY AS AN EXAMPLE OF WHAT THAT MIGHT LOOK LIKE AND GO INTO THE TRANSPORTATION.

WE ALWAYS BUDGET A BIG CHUNK FOR FUEL INCREASES.

SO WE GOT CAUGHT SEVERAL YEARS AGO WHEN THE LAST TIME.

THE FUEL PRICES WENT UP SO DRAMATICALLY, AND ALL OF A SUDDEN WE'RE CAUGHT SHORT ON OUR TRANSPORTATION, OUR FUEL BUDGET.

SO SINCE THEN, WE HAVE CREATED A SEPARATE LINE ITEM IN THE BUDGET STRICTLY FOR FUEL INFLATION.

AND IT'S NOT ACCESSIBLE THROUGH TRANSPORTATION, THROUGH THE REGULAR BUDGET, SO IT'S NOT ONE OF THOSE THINGS AT THE END OF THE YEAR, IF THEY DIDN'T SPEND IT, THEY CAN USE IT FOR OTHER THINGS.

IT JUST DOESN'T GET SPENT.

SO THIS YEAR IS OBVIOUSLY WE'RE TAPPING INTO THAT PRETTY SIGNIFICANTLY.

SO THAT IS JUST SOMETHING WE'VE ALWAYS, WE JUST SET THAT MONEY ASIDE AND IT'S THERE.

HOPEFULLY IT CONTRIBUTES TO FUND BALANCE AND IT'S ONE OF THOSE THINGS THAT WHY THE FUND BALANCE ALL OF A SUDDEN TAKES A LITTLE BUMP AT THE END OF THE YEAR.

BUT IN YEARS LIKE THIS, WE JUST HOPE IT'S ENOUGH TO BRIDGE THE GAP.

SO WHERE DOES THAT SHOW UP? IN THE BUDGET? I MEAN, IT'S IN THE GENERAL FUND, RIGHT? AND SO IS IT EARMARKED AS ONE OF THOSE, YOU KNOW, WHAT'S THE TERMINOLOGY FOR YOU CAN'T TOUCH IT, IT'S ALREADY DEDICATED TO SOMETHING? SO, WELL, IT'S NOT, IT'S IN A BUDGET, IT'S IN MARK'S BUDGET.

SO TRANSPORTATION DEPARTMENT CANNOT ENCUMBER IT.

THEY CAN'T USE IT.

THEY CAN'T PUT THAT ACCOUNT NUMBER ON A PURCHASE ORDER OR THEY SO YEAH, AND THEN WE DO LIKE AN INTERNAL BUDGET TRANSFER PROCESS TO GET THAT INTO THE TRANSPORTATION, THEIR DISCRETIONARY BUDGET IF WE NEED IT.

AND THEN THE LAST THING ON THIS SLIDE IS THAT WE NEVER BUDGET A SPECIAL ED SAFETY NET DUE TO UNCERTAINTY OF FUNDING BECAUSE WE'RE NEVER REALLY SURE THAT WE'RE GOING TO GET IT UNTIL I THINK WE GET THAT NOTIFICATION IN JUNE.

AND MARK'S BEEN BURNED BY THIS IN THE PAST, SO HE'S LIKE...

NEVER.

YEAH, FORWARD DISTRICT WAS WE PUT IN AN APPLICATION FOR $2 MILLION AND RECEIVED ZERO.

SO IT IS NOT AN ENTITLEMENT.

IT IS NOT A GUARANTEE.

SO, YEAH, IT'S A NICE TWO WHEN WE GET IT, BUT IT'S BECOMING MORE RELIABLE OVER THE LAST SEVERAL YEARS, BUT IT HASN'T ALWAYS BEEN THAT WAY.

I'M SORRY, I DON'T UNDERSTAND THAT.

WE NEVER BUDGET SPECIAL EDUCATION SAFETY NET DUE TO UNCERTAINTY OF FUNDING.

WOULDN'T YOU ALWAYS BUDGET A SAFETY NET BECAUSE OF AN UNCERTAINTY? I CAN EXPLAIN IT IN A WAY THAT WE MIGHT UNDERSTAND.

MARK UNDERSTANDS THINGS DIFFERENTLY.

YOU KNOW WHEN YOU GO TO THE STORE AND THEY HAVE THE LITTLE COUPON THERE THAT SAYS YOU CAN GET A REBATE? SO YOU BUY THE...

ITEM FULL PRICE, BUT YOU TAKE THE TAG AND YOU MAIL IT IN, YOU HAVE TO MAIL IT IN, AND THEN YOU'LL GET LIKE, I DON'T KNOW, 50 CENTS BACK OF WHAT THE ITEM COSTS YOU.

THAT'S HOW I THINK ABOUT SAFETY NET.

WE HAVE TO PAY FOR EVERYTHING.

THEN TRINA AND HER TEAM DO A LOT OF PAPERWORK.

THEY HAVE TO MAKE SURE, I MEAN, IT'S HOURS AND HOURS AND HOURS OF PAPERWORK, MAKING SURE THE IEPS ARE A CERTAIN WAY.

AND WE CAN'T ACTUALLY APPLY FOR THIS MONEY UNTIL WE'VE SPENT WHAT IS IT $30,000 OVER WHAT THEY GIVE US? IS THAT WHAT IT IS? SO YOU HAVE TO SPEND THE ALLOTMENT PLUS AN ADDITIONAL $30,000 IN ORDER TO EVEN QUALIFY FOR THIS.

AND THEN THEY CAN CHOOSE TO GIVE IT TO YOU OR NOT GIVE IT TO YOU.

AND THEY'LL OFTEN SAY, NO, YOU'RE NOT GETTING ALL THAT YOU ASKED FOR BECAUSE WE FOUND THREE THINGS IN THE PAPERWORK THAT...

YOU DIDN'T INCLUDE THE RIGHT BOX TOPS.

YEAH, WE DIDN'T DO SOMETHING.

AND SO IT'S A LITTLE, IT FEELS SUBJECTIVE TO ME.

AND AT ANY MOMENT, IF THE STATE'S SHORT ON FUNDS, WHAT'S THE FIRST THING THEY'RE GOING TO GRAB? IT'S KIND OF LIKE THE GAS BUDGET.

IT'S SITTING ASIDE.

IT SITS THERE ALL YEAR.

AND THEY MAY SAY THIS YEAR NO SAFETY NET.

SO YOU NEVER BUDGET.

YOU NEVER PLAN IT IN YOUR REVENUES FOR THE FOLLOWING YEAR.

YOU LOVE IT WHEN YOU GET IT, BUT THERE'S ALWAYS A CHANCE YOU WON'T.

SO IT'S THE NAME OF A GRANT.

IT'S NOT A BUDGET PHILOSOPHY.

IT'S THE NAME OF A GRANT FROM

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THE STATE THAT THEY INTENTIONALLY, OR NOT INTENTIONALLY, THEY KNOWINGLY UNDERFUND US.

FOR SPECIAL EDUCATION, WE SPEND THE MONEY, SO THE HIGH-COST STUDENTS, WE THEN CAN SUBMIT AN APPLICATION TO GET PAID FOR THE COST IN EXCESS OF, AND THEY CHOOSE WHETHER OR NOT OUR APPLICATION IS GOOD ENOUGH TO GET IT OR NOT.

SO THE SPECIAL EDUCATION SAFETY NET IS SOMETHING THAT WE DON'T EXPECT THE STATE TO GIVE US.

IT'S NOT OUR OWN SPECIAL EDUCATION.

SAFETY NET THAT WE BUILT IN.

CORRECT.

THANK YOU.

IT'S LIKE THE REBATE.

YOU'RE HOPING YOU GET SOME OF IT BACK WHEN YOU MAIL IT IN.

YEAH, BUT YOU STILL PLAN FOR SPECIAL EDUCATION AND YOU HAVE IT SET ASIDE.

WE BUDGET THE EXPENDITURES.

YEAH, OKAY.

AND HOPE FOR THE REVENUE.

AND THE IPS DRIVE THE EXPENDITURES.

AND WE DO, THERE ARE TWO ALLOCATIONS IN OUR APPORTIONMENT FOR SPECIAL ED, THAT'S JUST REGULAR APPORTIONMENT.

SO SAFETY NET IS KIND OF ABOVE AND BEYOND.

I LOVE THE REBATE ANALOGY.

I THINK IT'S, YEAH, SO WHAT IF WE GET IT WRONG? SO IF WE OVERESTIMATE OUR ENROLLMENT, AND I'M TALKING ABOUT ENROLLMENT MAINLY HERE.

BECAUSE WE ALWAYS BUDGET OUR ENROLLMENT REALLY CONSERVATIVELY, AND WHAT WILL HAPPEN IS OUR STATE APPORTIONMENT PAYMENTS FROM SEPTEMBER THROUGH DECEMBER ARE BASED ON WHATEVER WE SAID, YOU KNOW, THE NUMBER OF STUDENTS THAT WE SAID THAT WE WERE GOING TO HAVE.

AND SO IF WE ARE UPSIDE DOWN AND WE DON'T, THE STUDENTS AREN'T HERE, THEN IN JANUARY THEY'RE GOING TO ADJUST OUR APPORTIONMENT AND TAKE ALL OF THE EXTRA REVENUE WE GOT BACK IN JANUARY.

I, MARK SAID THAT THERE'S BEEN DISTRICTS THAT HAVE HAD NEGATIVE APPORTIONMENT IN JANUARY, SO THAT MEANS ZERO FROM THE STATE.

SO IT'S JUST REALLY IMPORTANT WE DON'T MISS ON ENROLLMENT.

AND IF WE DO, IF WE GO UNDER AND WE HAVE MORE STUDENTS, THAT'S GREAT, AND WE GET AN ADJUSTMENT IN JANUARY, GET EXTRA REVENUE FOR THE REST OF THE YEAR.

I MEAN, IT'S GREAT TO A POINT, BUT YOU STILL HAVE TO SERVE THOSE STUDENTS WITHOUT ENOUGH MONEY.

UNTIL YOU CATCH UP IN JANUARY.

WELL, AND THE BEST PART THAT I ALWAYS LOVE THAT I'VE LEARNED SO MUCH, THEY TAKE IT ALL BACK AT ONCE.

BUT IF THEY'RE GIVING US MONEY BECAUSE WE, THEY SPREAD THAT OUT OVER TIME.

YOU'RE REALLY GOOD AT ESTIMATING ENROLLMENT, RIGHT? THAT'S WHAT WE'VE SEEN OVER TIME.

HISTORICALLY, OUR MODEL, WHICH WE'LL TALK ABOUT HERE IN A MINUTE, HAS BEEN PRETTY ACCURATE.

AND WE TRY TO BE CONSERVATIVE, BUT NOT OVERLY SO FOR THAT VERY REASON, RIGHT? BECAUSE IT'S HARD TO ADD A BUNCH OF STAFF RIGHT AT THE BEGINNING OF SCHOOL AS WELL.

SO IT'S KIND OF, YOU WANT TO HIT THAT A LITTLE BIT UNDER, BUT NOT SO FAR UNDER THAT IT'S PROBLEMATIC.

OKAY, SO WE'RE GOING TO JUMP INTO THE KIND OF THE...

BUDGET, THE FIRST THING WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT IS REVENUES.

SO WE HAVE KIND OF FOUR MAIN SOURCES OF REVENUES.

LOCAL LEVY, THAT I BELIEVE WE'RE IN YEAR TWO OF A FOUR-YEAR LEVY.

AM I RIGHT? RIGHT NOW? OKAY.

WE HAVE STATE APPORTIONMENT, AND WE USE A TOOL CALLED THE F-203 TO ESTIMATE THOSE STATE APPORTIONMENTS.

GRANTS, WHICH INCLUDE FEDERAL, STATE, AND LOCAL GRANTS.

SO THINGS LIKE TITLE I, LAP FUNDING, MIGRANT GRANTS.

SOME ALLOCATIONS ARE NOT KNOWN TO A LATER DATE.

FOR EXAMPLE, WE DON'T KNOW OUR FEDERAL, OUR TITLE ALLOCATIONS YET.

WE'RE STILL WAITING FOR THOSE.

SO WE'RE DOING OUR BEST TO ESTIMATE FOR THE BUDGET.

AND THEN OTHER REVENUES, LOCAL SOURCES, LOCAL GRANTS LIKE THE WHATCOM COUNTY HEALTH DEPARTMENT GRANTS, FEES, FINES, DONATIONS, FOOD SERVICE PAYMENTS FROM STAFF, THAT SORT OF THING ARE KIND OF OUR OTHER REVENUES.

THAT'S THE SMALLEST LITTLE PIECE.

OF THE PIE.

BUDGETED EXPENDITURES.

I'M GOING TO TURN IT OVER TO MARK TO TALK ABOUT THE ENROLLMENT FORECAST AND THE STAFF ALLOCATION MODEL.

AND THEN KARA IS GOING TO TALK ABOUT THE K-3 RATIO AS WELL AS THE PSES RATIO.

SO MARK.

OKAY.

SO I THINK WE'VE ALL LAUGHED AT THIS SPREADSHEET BEFORE.

THIS IS THE THE ENROLLMENT FORECAST TOOL.

SO THE PINK OR ORANGE.

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CELLS ON THE LEFT THERE ARE HISTORICAL DATA.

SO IT TAKES A LOOK AT FIVE YEARS' WORTH OF HISTORICAL ENROLLMENT, CURRENT MONTH, AND THEN A PROJECTED ANNUAL AVERAGE BECAUSE WE DO THIS KIND OF MID-YEAR AND WE DON'T KNOW WHAT OUR ANNUAL AVERAGE IS GOING TO BE FOR THE END OF THIS YEAR.

SO OVER ON THE RIGHT-HAND SIDE PART THAT GOT KIND OF CUT OFF, WE DO A CALCULATION TO YOU CALCULATE WHAT WE THINK OUR ANNUAL AVERAGE FOR THE CURRENT SCHOOL YEAR WILL BE WHEN WE END AND WE ADD THAT IN AS WELL SO WE OKAY SO WE USE THAT TO KIND OF THE THE WHITE IS THE DIFFERENT SURVIVORSHIP NUMBERS BASICALLY THE ATTRITION RATIO SOME ARE POSITIVE SOME ARE NEGATIVE THAT APPLY TO THE DIFFERENT MODELS THAT THEN POPULATE THE BLUE ESTIMATES ON THE FAR RIGHT-HAND SIDE THAT ARE DIFFERENT FORECASTS FOR ENROLLMENT.

SO YOU BASICALLY HAVE DIFFERENT MODELS THAT FORECAST DIFFERENT NUMBERS OF STUDENTS FOR THE COMING YEAR.

AND AS YOU KNOW WITH ANY KIND OF TREND ANALYSIS YOU'RE GOING TO CONTINUE TO PROJECT THE TREND THAT YOU'RE ON UNTIL IT CHANGES DIRECTION.

SO IT'S KIND OF YOU HAVE TO LOOK AT A LITTLE BIT IN TERMS OF WHAT'S GOING UP AND WHAT'S GOING DOWN, WHAT'S REASONABLE.

A BIG PART OF IT IS WHAT IS YOUR FUND BALANCE, HOW MUCH CUSHION DO YOU HAVE TO BE WRONG.

THE MORE FINANCIALLY SOLVENT YOU ARE, THE MORE KIND OF STABLE YOUR FUND BALANCE IS, YOU CAN TRY TO GUESS A LITTLE CLOSER BECAUSE IT'S NOT THE END OF THE WORLD IF YOU MISS THE OTHER DIRECTION BY A FEW STUDENTS.

IF YOU'RE VERY TIGHT ON FINANCES.

YOU HAVE TO BE MORE CONSERVATIVE IN YOUR PROJECTION BECAUSE YOU CAN'T AFFORD TO MISS THE WRONG DIRECTION.

OKAY, JUST CHECKING.

SO IN THIS PARTICULAR YEAR, SO YOU CAN SEE KIND OF THE DIFFERENT MODEL.

YOU'VE GOT A FIVE-YEAR COHORT.

YOU'VE GOT A WEIGHTED AVERAGE FOR FIVE.

YOU'VE GOT A THREE-YEAR AND A THREE-YEAR STRAIGHT ROLL-UP, WHICH TYPICALLY, PEOPLE LIKE TO USE THE STRAIGHT ROLL-UP BECAUSE YOU ASSUME THAT EVERY KID THAT'S IN YOUR BUILDING THIS YEAR IS GOING TO BE IN YOUR BUILDING NEXT YEAR.

AND IT'S VERY INTUITIVE.

IT MAKES SENSE.

IT DOESN'T NECESSARILY MAKE SUPER LOGICAL SENSE TO THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, A BUNCH OF THE KIDS THAT ARE IN YOUR SCHOOL THIS YEAR AREN'T GOING TO BE BACK NEXT YEAR.

SO THE DIFFERENT PROJECTIONS KIND OF COME UP WITH DIFFERENT VERSIONS OF THE MODEL.

THE ONE ON THE FAR RIGHT IS...

IS ONE THAT WE USE NOT AS FREQUENTLY BECAUSE IT IS THE MOST CONSERVATIVE PROJECTION, AND IT ACTUALLY TAKES THE MOST CONSERVATIVE NUMBER FROM THE OTHER MODELS, WHATEVER MODEL COMES UP WITH THE LOWEST PROJECTION FOR THAT CELL, AND PICKS IT.

SO IT IS KIND OF A FORCED...

LOWER VERSION OF THE OTHER ENROLLMENT NUMBERS.

SO BECAUSE OF OUR FINANCIAL SITUATION, BECAUSE OF THE FACT THAT THE ENROLLMENT IS GOING DOWN STATEWIDE, OUR ENROLLMENT HAS KIND OF REMAINED A LITTLE FLAT.

IT'S VERY TIGHT THIS YEAR BASED ON OUR FORECAST.

WE HAVE GONE WITH A LOWER, KIND OF A LOWER, MORE CONSERVATIVE.

NUMBER FOR ENROLLMENT FOR PLANNING PURPOSES.

SO AND THEN WE MAKE SOME A COUPLE OF ROUNDING CALCULATIONS AND WE'VE GOT A COUPLE MORE YEARS TO GO.

YOU'LL SEE TK BACKED OUT BECAUSE SEVERAL YEARS AGO WE ADDED TK IN TO KINDERGARTEN BECAUSE THAT'S HOW IT WAS FUNDED.

SO WE NOW HAVE TO GO A FEW YEARS IN ORDER TO HAVE FIVE IN A ROW THAT HAS TK SEPARATED BEFORE WE CAN ACTUALLY START FORECASTING THAT INDEPENDENTLY, IF THAT MAKES SENSE.

SO JUST BECAUSE OF THE WAY THE MATH, BECAUSE IT WAS OUT, WE HAD TO FORCE IT IN.

THEN IT WAS IN.

NOW WE CAN'T SEPARATE IT OUT, SO WE HAVE TO INCLUDE IT AND BACK IT OUT AT THE END.

SO THAT'S WHY THE NUMBER IS ADJUSTED AT THE BOTTOM.

AND WE BUDGET TK SEPARATELY BECAUSE THE STATE IS NOW FUNDING TK SEPARATELY.

AND AS YOU KNOW, THIS YEAR THEY HAVE CUT OUR...

THIS TK FUNDING ACROSS THE STATE BY ABOUT 33%.

SO WE'RE DOWN TO INSTEAD OF

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100 STUDENTS AS WE HAD PREVIOUSLY BUDGETED AND.

SERVED, WE'RE GOING TO BE 67.

WHAT DID WE BUDGET LAST YEAR? 100.

I'M SORRY.

WHAT DID WE BUDGET LAST YEAR FOR? OVER THE ENROLLMENT? ENROLLMENT.

40.

TALK AMONGST YOURSELVES.

HMM.

I THINK IT WOULD BE REALLY INTERESTING TO RUN ALL THESE NUMBERS THROUGH AI AND SEE IF THEY PREDICT SIMILARLY.

KEEP YOUR DATA, BUT IT WOULD BE COOL TO SEE, AND THEN JUST SORT OF TRACK THAT OVER TIME.

ODDLY ENOUGH, I ACTUALLY DID THAT.

AND IT WAS KIND OF RIGHT IN THE, I ASKED IT FOR A HIGH, MEDIUM, AND LOW, AND IT WAS KIND OF WITHIN THE MODELS THAT WE HAD.

YEAH, WE'LL KEEP AN EYE ON THAT AND SEE WHERE THE ENROLLMENT ACTUALLY COMES IN COMPARED TO MODELS.

MARK, DOES THAT GET A LITTLE CIRCULAR, THOUGH? BECAUSE WHEN AI IS OUT THERE CREEPING AROUND AND GATHERING INFORMATION, DOES IT ALREADY GATHER WHAT YOU'VE ALREADY JUST NO, BECAUSE IT DIDN'T HAVE ACCESS TO MY FORECAST MODEL.

OH, OKAY.

$41.85 FOR 2526, DOES THAT SOUND RIGHT? OH, PLUS $100 FOR TK, SO $42.85.

AND EITHER IN OR OUT, BASED ON THAT, BECAUSE EITHER WITH THE $100 OR WITHOUT THE $100, PREVIOUS SLIDE.

WE'RE BUDGETING ABOUT $200 LESS.

SO $100, RIGHT? YOU SAID $40. I SAID $42.85.

YEAH, SO $140.

YEAH YEAH SO THEN YES SO THEN WE TAKE THAT INFORMATION AND WE PUT IT INTO THE YEAH SO WHILE HE'S LOOKING AT THAT ONE THING WE DO AT THE BEGINNING OF THE SCHOOL YEAR IS THOSE NUMBERS ARE COMING IN BECAUSE REALLY IT'S WE CAN DO THE PROJECTIONS, BUT IT'S KIDS IN SEATS THAT WE WANT TO MONITOR.

SO ALMOST EVERY DAY FOR ABOUT TWO WEEKS, I PULL THE TEAM TOGETHER AT THE END OF THE DAY, AND WE PULL THOSE PROJECTION NUMBERS IN SO WE CAN BE TRACKING IT AND KNOW.

BECAUSE THE OTHER THING WE WANT TO DO IS IF WE'RE REALLY HIGH IN ONE BUILDING AND REALLY LOW IN ANOTHER, THAT'S THE TIME WE WOULD MAKE A SHIFT.

WE WOULDN'T JUST LEAVE IT LIKE THAT ALL YEAR.

IF WE HAD TO, WE WOULD HAVE TO MAKE A SHIFT MAYBE.

MOVE A TEACHER OR A PROGRAM TO ANOTHER LOCATION.

AND SO JUST KNOW THAT COULD HAPPEN IN THE FIRST COUPLE OF WEEKS OF SCHOOL, BUT WE ARE MONITORING THAT ENROLLMENT EVERY DAY.

THE OTHER THING WE'RE DOING RIGHT NOW THAT IS TRICKY TO MONITOR IS KINDERGARTEN ENROLLMENT.

IT'S BASED ON THE BIRTH RATES.

AND SO RIGHT NOW WE'RE LOOKING AT WHAT WE HAD THIS YEAR IN KINDERGARTEN, AND WE'RE ALREADY PRETTY CLOSE TO WHAT MARK HAD PROJECTED, WHICH IS HIGHER THAN TYPICAL OF THIS TIME OF YEAR.

NORMALLY IT'S A LITTLE BIT LOWER, SO THAT'S A GOOD SIGN FOR KINDERGARTEN ENROLLMENT.

BUT NOW I'M TRACKING THAT TO SEE DOES IT GO A LOT HIGHER THAN WHAT WE ENROLLED.

AND THOSE ARE SOLID NUMBERS BECAUSE THOSE CHILDREN HAVE JUST COME IN AND REGISTERED, WHEREAS STUDENTS WHO HAVE BEEN IN THE SYSTEM AND ARE ROLLING UP, IT CAN BE TRICKY BECAUSE THEY CAN MOVE OVER THE SUMMER AND WE DIDN'T KNOW.

SO ANYWAY, THERE'S A LOT OF...

REALLY MONITORING IT RIGHT NOW WITH KINDERGARTEN.

THEN THERE'S A TON OF MONITORING IT COME JULY.

WELL, JULY IT'S HARDER, AUGUST, BUT WE'RE LOOKING AT HOW MANY FAMILIES ARE COMING IN.

THEY COME TO THE DISTRICT OFFICE TO ENROLL.

AND THEN WHEN THE AAS GET BACK, WE START TO UPLOAD IT AND START TRACKING THAT DATA VERY TIGHTLY.

SO IT'S LIKE ALMOST, SOMETIMES IT'S ALMOST HOURLY THAT I'M ASKING FOR NUMBERS.

4321 WITHOUT THE...

YEAH, WHICH IS, FOR THIS TIME OF YEAR, THAT'S A LITTLE TIGHTER THAN I WOULD LIKE IT.

SO THE OTHER KIND OF KEY POINT ON THAT IS WE'RE BUDGETING THE ANNUAL AVERAGE, AND WE'RE FORECASTING THE ANNUAL AVERAGE.

SO WE REPORT THE ACTUAL ENROLLMENT, THE FTE, THE FULL-TIME EQUIVALENT, RIGHT, SO NOT HEAD COUNT,

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BUT THE ACTUAL PORTION OF THE STUDENTS THAT ARE.

IN THE ATTENDING SCHOOL.

EACH MONTH...

AND THEN THE STATE TAKES THE AVERAGE, BECAUSE TYPICALLY WE'LL PEAK IN OCTOBER, WE'LL BE KIND OF OUR HIGH WATER MARK, AND THEN YOU HAVE A LITTLE CHANGES THROUGHOUT THE REST OF THE YEAR.

SO BY THE TIME YOU GET TO THE END, YOU'RE A LITTLE BIT LOWER TYPICALLY THAN, YOU KNOW, SO FOR INSTANCE, OCTOBER OR NOVEMBER OF THIS YEAR LOOKED LIKE OUR HIGH POINT WAS, NO, IT WAS NOVEMBER, 43, 42.

WAS THE HIGH POINT WHERE 4321 IS THE ANNUAL AVERAGE.

SO THE ANNUAL AVERAGE IS SLIGHTLY LOWER THAN YOUR PEAK MONTHLY ENROLLMENT, IF THAT MAKES SENSE.

SO SUBTLE DIFFERENCE, BUT IT'S IMPORTANT IN TERMS OF HOW WE'RE DOING THE BUDGETING.

SO WE TAKE THE ENROLLMENT NUMBERS, AND THEN WE GO THROUGH.

THIS IS A SUMMARY SHEET THAT COMPARES LAST YEAR TO THIS YEAR.

IT'S NOT THE ACTUAL ALLOCATION MODEL, STAFFING ALLOCATION MODELS, EVEN BIGGER AND SMALLER PRINT THAN THE ENROLLMENT FORECAST.

BUT IT BASICALLY PRODUCES THIS.

SO IT TAKES THE NUMBER OF STUDENTS.

AND IF YOU KIND OF THINK BACK TO THE SLIDE WE WERE JUST LOOKING AT, WE'RE FORECASTING DISTRICT-WIDE ENROLLMENT PER GRADE LEVEL.

SO WE'RE FORECASTING ACROSS THE DISTRICT.

WE'RE GOING TO HAVE.

YOU KNOW, 300 SIXTH GRADERS.

WE THEN HAVE TO TAKE THAT 300 AND BREAK IT OUT BETWEEN THE TWO MIDDLE SCHOOLS.

WE HAVE TO COME UP WITH A HISTORICAL KIND OF CALCULATION OF HOW MANY OF THE SIXTH GRADERS ATTEND VISTA VERSUS HORIZON, AND WE BREAK IT DOWN THAT WAY.

SO WE DO THAT FOR ALL THE GRADE LEVELS, DO THAT FOR ALL THE BUILDINGS TO COME UP WITH A FIGURE FOR HOW MANY KINDERGARTNERS ARE GOING TO BE AT CASCADIA, HOW MANY FIRST GRADERS AT CENTRAL, HOW MANY SECOND GRADERS AT CUSTER.

SO THE FINER, THE MORE WE BREAK THAT DOWN, THE LESS EXACTLY ACCURATE IT BECOMES.

SO WE ARE PRETTY DARN GOOD AT FIGURING OUT HOW MANY STUDENTS OVERALL WE'RE GOING TO HAVE.

AND EACH TIME YOU BREAK THAT SMALLER, SO PER GRADE LEVEL, IT GETS A LITTLE LESS ACCURATE.

GRADE LEVEL PER BUILDING GETS A LITTLE LESS ACCURATE.

SO WE MAY BE OFF BETWEEN THIRD GRADE AND FOURTH GRADE AT A BUILDING OR, YOU KNOW, IT DOESN'T COME EXACTLY CORRECT EVERY YEAR, BUT THE OVERALL IS IT GETS US EXTREMELY CLOSE.

SO WE TAKE THOSE BREAKDOWNS AND THEN FIGURE OUT, OKAY, BASED ON OUR KIND OF OUR TARGETED CLASS SIZES, HOW MANY TEACHERS DO WE NEED FOR EACH OF THOSE GRADE LEVELS IN EACH OF THOSE BUILDINGS.

AND THEN BASICALLY COMPILE THAT INTO THE NUMBER OF TEACHERS THAT YOU NEED PER EACH BUILDING.

SO, FOR INSTANCE, CASCADIA ELEMENTARY, WE'RE FORECASTING 395 STUDENTS, WHICH SAYS THEY NEED 19 CLASSROOM TEACHERS.

WHEN YOU ADD IN THE PLANNING TIME, THEY NEED 21.12.

TEACHING STAFF IN THEIR BUILDING SO THE MIDDLE THE 2627 IS THIS YEAR'S FORECAST THE 2526 ON THE LEFT IS JUST COMPARISON FOR WHAT DOES YOU KNOW THE TWO YEARS WHAT IS NEXT YEAR LOOK LIKE COMPARED TO LAST YEAR AND THEN THE RIGHT IS THE IS THE VARIANCE AND THAT THOSE ARE THE COMPARING THE MODEL TO THE MODEL IT DOESN'T NECESSARILY COMPARE THE ACTUAL WE STAFFED SLIGHTLY DIFFERENTLY ONCE THE KIDS ACTUALLY SHOWED UP OR ONCE WE WENT THROUGH THE PROCESS OF KIND OF THE SCHEDULING AND MADE SOME ADJUSTMENTS AS NEEDED.

SO THAT'S KIND OF HOW WE END UP WITH THE BASIC ED STAFF.

AND THAT'S THE CLASSROOM TEACHERS THAT ARE FUNDED THROUGH BASIC ED AND CTE FOR THE BUILDINGS.

THAT WAS A LOT OF WORDS AND MAY NOT HAVE MADE A WHOLE LOT OF SENSE.

JUST WAIT.

IT GETS BETTER.

OKAY, SO WE'RE GOING TO MOVE ON NOW TO THE K3 CLASS SIZE RATIO.

ADD ANOTHER LAYER AND WRINKLE TO IT.

SO WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT THE K3 CLASS SIZE RATIO, AND IT GETS A LITTLE CONFUSING, SO ASK QUESTIONS, PLEASE.

BUT WASHINGTON STATE PROVIDES OUT OF THE MCCLEARY ACT, WHICH I'M HOPING MOST OF YOU KNOW WHAT THAT WAS, BUT

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THAT WAS WHEN THE STATE DECLARED THAT THEY WERE FULLY FUNDING EDUCATION.

AND THEY ROLLED THAT OUT IN 27-18 SCHOOL YEAR.

AND PART OF THAT, THEY ADDED THE K-3 CLASS SIZE RATIO.

AND THAT IS ENHANCED FUNDING TO SCHOOL DISTRICTS TO ENSURE THAT THEIR K-3 CLASS SIZES, WHICH HAS TK INCLUDED NOW, HAS CERTIFICATED STAFF IN A 17-1 RATIO FOR STUDENTS.

SO HOW DOES THAT WORK IN A SITUATION LIKE BEACH WHERE YOU'VE GOT A BUNCH OF THEM TOGETHER BECAUSE THAT'S A DIFFERENT SCENARIO? SO HR PREPARES A REALLY BIG REPORT CALLED S275 WHERE WE REPORT ALL OF OUR STAFF AND HOW THEY'RE FUNDED AND HOW THEY'RE CODED AND WHAT GRADE LEVEL THEY'RE CODED TO, AND WE SEND THAT TO THE STATE, AND THEN THAT'S WHAT THEY TAKE AND THEN COMPARE IT TO THE ENROLLMENT TO THEN ADJUST THE ALLOCATION IN JANUARY OR THE APPORTIONMENT IN JANUARY.

SO THE BEACH TEACHERS, LIKE RIGHT NOW WE HAVE TWO.

ONE IS CODED K12, AND THEN THE OTHER ONE'S 345.

SO THE K12, SHE IS FULLY COUNTING TOWARDS THE K3 STAFFING RATIO, AND THEN .33 FTE OF THE OTHER TEACHER IS TOWARDS THE K3 RATIO BECAUSE SHE HAS THE THIRD GRADERS.

IT'S A DISTRICT-WIDE CALCULATION? SO YOU CAN BE OVER AT ONE SCHOOL AT ONE GRADE LEVEL, BUT YOU'RE UNDER IN THE OTHER.

SO IT'S A DISTRICT-WIDE AVERAGE.

YEAH.

SO, AND THAT INCLUDES, SO IN THE K-3 RATIO WHEN THEY'RE COUNTING THE TEACHERS, IT'S NOT JUST CLASSROOM TEACHERS.

SO LIKE OUR SPECIALISTS, SO THE PE SPECIALISTS, THE MUSIC SPECIALISTS, THEY COUNT TOWARDS OUR RATIO OR 0.714 IF THEIR FTE COUNTS TOWARDS THAT RATIO.

AND THEN OUR RESOURCE, SPECIAL EDUCATION RESOURCE TEACHERS.

0.714 OF THEIR FTE COUNTS FOR 20.34%. SO THE STATE SAYS YOU ONLY GET 0.714 OF THEIR FTE COUNTED, AND THEN BASED ON OUR SPECIAL EDUCATION NUMBERS, THEY THEN DECIDE WHAT PERCENTAGE EACH DISTRICT GETS TO COUNT, AND OURS IS 20.34% OF THAT 0.714 FTE COUNTS TOWARDS THE K-3 RATIO.

AND THAT'S WHY MATH PROFICIENCY IS SO IMPORTANT.

YES, AND ACTUALLY...

I ALWAYS SAY I DON'T WANT TO BE A MATH PERSON, BUT IN HR YOU GET TO BE BOTH.

PEOPLE PERSON AND MATH.

SO WHY DOES IT MATTER? SO THEY TIED OUR FUNDING DIRECTLY TO THE COMPLIANCE.

SO IT GETS TRICKY DEPENDING ON HOW WE HAVE PEOPLE CODED FOR HR BECAUSE OUR REPORT DIRECTLY AFFECTS FINANCE.

SO IF WE DO NOT MEET THE RATIO, THEY REDUCE OUR FUNDING.

SO A FUN FACT OF...

WHAT MARK WAS SHARING AND HOLLY IS WE ESTIMATE OUR ENROLLMENT.

THEY GIVE US THAT MONEY SEPTEMBER THROUGH DECEMBER BASED ON WHAT WE SAID WE THOUGHT WE WERE GOING TO HAVE.

AND THEN THEY TRUE UP IN JANUARY.

SO THAT'S WHEN THEY COUNT THE STUDENTS AND ADJUST OUR APPORTIONMENT.

WELL, THE S275, WE HAVE TO HAVE ALL THE STAFF IN PLACE BY OCTOBER 1 OR THEY DON'T COUNT.

SO WHEN YOU GUYS WERE ASKING, LIKE, HOW DO YOU KIND OF.

ESTIMATE FOR THAT.

WE HAVE TO, LIKE CHRISTY WAS SAYING, UNFORTUNATELY KIDS DON'T COME IN BEAUTIFUL LITTLE PACKAGES OF 25 WHERE WE CAN ADD A CLASSROOM.

BUT IF WE'RE NOT COUNTING THE FIRST TWO WEEKS OF SCHOOL AND MAKING THAT STAFFING ADJUSTMENT IMMEDIATELY, IF WE HIRE A NEW CLASSROOM TEACHER, A KINDERGARTEN TEACHER ON OCTOBER 2ND AND LOWER THOSE CLASS SIZES, DOESN'T MATTER.

WE'RE NOT GOING TO GET THAT APPORTIONMENT BACK BECAUSE THEY DID NOT START PRIOR TO OCTOBER 1ST.

SO WE HAVE TO KNOW OCTOBER 1ST, OR WE HAVE TO ESTIMATE OCTOBER 1ST, WHAT THE STUDENT COUNT MIGHT BE IN JANUARY.

THE OTHER PART OF THE FUN PART OF THAT GAME THAT I DON'T THINK CAME OUT WHEN WE WERE TALKING ABOUT ENROLLMENT IS IF WE OVERESTIMATE ENROLLMENT AND HIRE TEACHERS TO MEET THAT ENROLLMENT AND THEN HAVE LESS STUDENTS SHOW UP, WE'RE STILL COMMITTED TO PAYING THAT TEACHER FOR THE FULL YEAR WHETHER WE HAVE A CLASSROOM OF STUDENTS FOR THEM OR NOT.

CORRECT.

SO IT'S A GREAT SYSTEM.

LAS VEGAS, I THINK, HAS BETTER ODDS.

YEAH.

SO IF THE DISTRICT DOESN'T MEET THE RATIO, THEY REDUCE OUR FUNDING.

SO THEY CALCULATE A COMPLIANCE PENALTY.

AND THEN OUR STATE FUNDING IS REDUCED BASED ON THE DEGREE OF NONCOMPLIANCE.

SO THEY HAVE WHAT THEY CALL A K-3 COMPLIANCE CALCULATOR, WHICH ALSO WAS A LITTLE FUN THIS YEAR BECAUSE I HAVE HR HAS THE K-3 COMPLIANCE CALCULATOR.

AND THAT'S WHAT I USE TO MAKE SURE THE STAFFING IS MEETING WHAT WE'RE REPORTING.

AND THEN WE FOUND THAT.

THEIR CALCULATOR HAD A MISTAKE THIS YEAR AND WE LOST SOME APPORTIONMENT DUE TO THEIR CALCULATOR THAT I WAS USING NOT CALCULATING PROPERLY SO WHAT I WAS LOOKING AT WASN'T THE SAME WAS WHAT THEY WERE LOOKING AT AND REPORTING TO HOLLY SO WE HAD LIKE NO MY NUMBER'S RIGHT NO MY NUMBER'S RIGHT KIND OF FUN TIMES SO WE DO GET TO ADJUST THE REPORT ONCE IN

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MARCH AND JUNE AND THEN IF WE DON'T GET IT ADJUSTED CORRECTLY BY JUNE WE'RE LOCKED IN YOU CAN'T RECORD SO STAFFING SHORTAGES CAN RESULT IN A SIGNIFICANT LOSS DEPENDING ON HOW HR CODES STAFF APPROPRIATELY.

ANY QUESTIONS ON THAT? AND THE ADJUSTING THAT SHE'S TALKING ABOUT IS JUST FOR THE CHANGING ACCOUNT CODES OR CORRECTING ERRORS FOR THE STAFF THAT WERE ALREADY EMPLOYED BY OCTOBER 1ST.

YEAH, SO ANOTHER CALCULATOR THAT WE HAVE NOW THAT WAS ENACTED 23-24 SCHOOL YEAR IS PSES SO THE PHYSICAL SOCIAL EMOTIONAL SUPPORT STAFF WHICH WE CALL SEL YEAH, THERE'S A LOT OF ACRONYMS. SO THIS INCLUDES SCHOOL COUNSELORS, NURSES, PSYCHOLOGISTS, SOCIAL WORKERS, SAFETY STAFF, FAMILY ENGAGEMENT STAFF.

SO THEY CALCULATE OUR PSCS DISTRICT-WIDE, AND THE REQUIREMENT, THEIR REASONING IS THIS MODEL IS INTENDED TO FORCE FUNDED STAFFING ALLOCATIONS INTO ACTUAL STUDENT SUPPORT STAFF RATHER THAN DISTRICTS REDIRECTING THE MONEY ELSEWHERE IN THEIR BUDGET, BECAUSE WE DEFINITELY DO THAT.

MY FAVORITE IS USING THE SCHOOL NURSES.

SO WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE PROTOTYPICAL MODEL OR THE STATE ALLOCATION MODEL, THEY DO ONE SCHOOL NURSE PER 05,263 ELEMENTARY STUDENTS.

SO IF WE USE THEIR ACTUAL MODEL, WE WOULDN'T EVEN GET A FULL NURSE BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE THAT MANY STUDENTS ACROSS THE DISTRICT.

CAN I ADD IN THAT? YEAH.

BUT WE ALSO HAVE TO FILL OUT A DIFFERENT FORM, AND I THINK I'VE SHARED THIS WITH YOU IN THE PAST, THAT WE HAVE TO TAKE ALL THE NEEDS, THE MEDICAL NEEDS THAT WE KNOW OF OUR STUDENTS, KELLY DOES THIS EVERY YEAR, AND THEY FIGURE OUT, BASED ON ALL THESE NEEDS, THESE ARE THE AMOUNT OF NURSES WE ARE EXPECTED TO HAVE.

SO THEY ONLY FUND IT THAT WAY, BUT THEN THEY TELL US YOU HAVE TO HAVE THIS MANY NURSES IN ORDER TO MEET THE NEEDS.

BUT THEY GIVE US ONE.

NO, NOT A WHOLE ONE.

YEAH, A PARTIAL ONE.

ONLY PART OF THE NURSE.

WE CAN'T HAVE THE WHOLE NURSE.

AND SO THE PSCS IS CALCULATED ON...

SPECIFIC CERTIFICATED STAFF AND CLASSIFIED STAFF.

AND THEN ANOTHER KIND OF NUANCE OR TRICK TO THIS REPORT, IT'S ALL PULLED FROM THE S-275.

SO IT'S PULLED FROM THAT SAME REPORT THAT HR SUBMITS.

HOWEVER, THEY ALSO HAVE SPECIFIC REQUIREMENTS IN THE PSCS FOR THE TYPE OF STAFF AND HOW THEY'RE FUNDED.

SO WE HAVE SOME NURSES AND I'M SURE YOU GUYS KNOW A LOT OF OUR NURSES AND THEY'RE ABSOLUTELY AMAZING AND ONLY HALF OF OUR NURSES HOLD AN ESA CERTIFICATE THROUGH OSPI, WHICH IS AN EDUCATIONAL STAFF ASSOCIATE CERTIFICATE THROUGH OSPI.

NOW, TO BECOME A NURSE, THEY GO THROUGH SCHOOL, THEY GET STATE LICENSURE TO BE OBVIOUSLY A LICENSED NURSE, AND THEN OSPI THEN EXPECTS THEM TO GO THROUGH A DIFFERENT PROGRAM AND APPLY AND TAKE A COURSE TO GET THE EDUCATIONAL STAFF ASSOCIATE CERTIFICATE THROUGH OSPI.

NOW, WE CAN HIRE A NURSE IF THEY HAVE THE STATE LICENSURE.

BUT FOR THEM TO COUNT TOWARDS OUR PSCS COMPLIANCE NUMBERS, THEY HAVE TO HAVE THAT ESA CERTIFICATE OR THEY DON'T COUNT.

SO IT GETS REALLY TRICKY WITH ALL OF THE STAFF AND HOW THEY'RE FUNDED AND HOW WE CAN CODE THEM AND WHETHER OR NOT THEY COUNT TOWARDS THE RATIO THE STATE REQUIRES US TO MEET.

SO THE NURSES ARE THE ONES THAT REALLY RUB ME THE WRONG WAY, AND THEN ALSO WE HAVE SOME OF OUR MENTAL HEALTH SPECIALISTS.

THAT WE HAVE GRANT FUNDING FOR.

AND IF THEY'RE NOT FUNDED OUT OF BASIC EDUCATION, THEY DON'T COUNT.

SO THEY REQUIRE US TO HAVE THESE PEOPLE, DON'T FUND US ENOUGH TO HIRE THEM.

WE LOOK FOR A GRANT TO HIRE THEM AND TO GET THE SERVICES TO OUR STUDENTS, AND THEN THEY TAKE MONEY AWAY FROM AFTER THIS REPORT IF WE DON'T HAVE THEM PAID OUT OF BASIC EDUCATION.

QUESTION.

HOW TIME-CONSUMING IS IT TO GET AN ESA CERTIFICATE? SO YOU HAVE TO HAVE A BACHELOR'S IN NURSING, AND THEN YOU HAVE TO GO THROUGH A SPECIAL COURSE THAT, DEPENDING ON YOUR EDUCATION LEVEL AND WHAT COURSES WERE IN YOUR BACHELOR'S OF NURSING, BECAUSE THERE'S DIFFERENT PROGRAMS, IT COULD TAKE FOUR DAYS TO A YEAR TO TAKE THAT PROGRAM.

AND THEN IT REQUIRES THEM TO GET CLOCK HOURS THROUGH THE STATE TO REAPPLY FOR THEIR STATE CERTIFICATE EVERY FIVE YEARS LIKE A TEACHER.

SO OSPI, THEY HAVE TO RENEW THAT CERTIFICATE, AND THEY ALSO STILL HAVE TO KEEP THEIR STATE LICENSURE RENEWED AND UP TO DATE AND DO ALL THE CLOCK HOURS AND ALL OF THE REQUIREMENTS

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TO STAY A NURSE THROUGH WASHINGTON STATE AS WELL.

SO IT'S BASICALLY DOUBLE WORK FOR THEM, WHICH IS WHY SOME OF THEM CHOOSE NOT TO GO THAT ROUTE.

AND WE WONDER WHY EDUCATION IS SO RIDICULOUSLY EXPENSIVE.

BRIAN, DID YOU HAVE A QUESTION? YEAH.

IS IT EVER ADVANTAGEOUS TO JUST TAKE THE GRANT AND TAKE THE HIT ON THE CALCULATION, I GUESS? I'M LOOKING AT MARK, BECAUSE IT'S REALLY TRICKY TO DO THAT CALCULATION, BECAUSE THERE ARE SOME TIMES WHERE THE LOSS WAS...

YOU KNOW, $68,000 AND WE'RE GETTING $100,000, SO MAYBE WE LOSE THAT.

BUT THEN WE'RE LOSING THAT OUT OF OUR BASIC EDUCATION, AND WE HIRED THAT PERSON OUT OF THE GRANT.

SO IT'S KIND OF HARD TO ANSWER BECAUSE WE'RE LOSING MONEY THAT WE HAD EARMARKED ELSEWHERE OUT OF THE APPORTIONMENT.

AND WE REALLY DESPERATELY NEED BOTH.

YEAH.

AND PART OF THE WHEN WE TALKED KIND OF DURING THE BUDGET PROCESS AND WHAT DO WE ADVOCATE FOR THE IT'S GETTING HARDER AND HARDER I MEAN WE KIND OF LAUGH AT SOME OF THESE REQUIREMENTS BUT IT'S GETTING SO HARD TO SPEND THE MONEY IN THE WAY THAT WE'RE REQUIRED TO SPEND IT YOU KNOW WE'RE EVERY DOLLAR IS SO EARMARKED WITH HOW WE HAVE TO SPEND IT THAT IT IS REALLY HARD TO KIND OF ALIGN THE PIECES, RIGHT? SO WE GET ALL THIS ADDITIONAL MONEY THROUGH LAP, THE LAP PROGRAM.

BUT WE CAN'T FUND, YOU KNOW, WHAT USED TO BE OUR ELIGIBLE EXPENDITURES THROUGH LAP.

THEY DON'T COUNT AGAINST THIS MONEY.

SO WE HAVE TO SPEND ALL OF THE BASIC ED DOLLARS ON THESE PROGRAMS, BUT THEY'RE NOT FULLY FUNDED FROM THE STATE, RIGHT? SO EVERYTHING, EVERY PERSON THAT WE END UP HIRING, COSTS US MORE THAN WHAT THE STATE FUNDS US FOR.

SO WE'RE DIPPING INTO LEVY DOLLARS.

WE'RE DIPPING INTO ANY FLEXIBLE FUNDING WE HAVE IN ORDER TO MEET THEIR REQUIREMENTS TO GET ALL OF THEIR REVENUE.

AND WE CAN'T USE THE SUPPLEMENTAL DOLLARS TO SUPPORT THOSE SERVICES, OR WE LOSE...

MORE MONEY OUT OF BASIC EDUCATION.

SO WHEN WE'RE TALKING TO THE LEGISLATURE, THEY NEED TO, LIKE, TAKE AWAY THE EXPENSE.

EITHER GIVE US MORE MONEY, OR, LIKE...

REMOVE A BUNCH OF THE STRINGS SO WE CAN BLEND AND MERGE AND PROVIDE THE SERVICES THAT WE ALL AGREE WE WANT TO PROVIDE.

IT'S UNFORTUNATE IN RETROSPECT THAT WE DIDN'T INVITE OUR LEGISLATORS TONIGHT TO HEAR THIS.

I'M SENDING THIS TO THEM.

SO JUST FOR CLARIFICATION, ARE OSPI STAFF MAKING THESE FINANCIAL RULES OR ARE OUR LEGISLATURES MAKING THESE RULES? LEGISLATURES, YEAH, THEY'RE FROM HOUSE BILLS.

AND I KNOW ONE OF THEM IS HOUSE BILL 1664.

I CAN'T REMEMBER THE OTHER ONE, BUT IT'S HOUSE BILLS.

AND A LOT OF TIMES THEY BELIEVE THEY'RE MAKING A SOLUTION TO A PROBLEM, LIKE WE'RE GOING TO EARMARK THAT SCHOOL DISTRICTS HAVE TO HAVE THESE STAFF, BUT THEN THEY MAKE ALL OF THESE RULES THAT MAKE IT PRACTICALLY IMPOSSIBLE TO HIT THOSE RATIOS.

SO SOMEBODY'S LOBBYING THEM TO MAKE THESE RULES.

I DON'T KNOW.

IT'S NOT EVEN NECESSARILY BAD RULES, AND I THINK IT'S GOOD INTENTIONS.

BUT LIKE MY GRANDFATHER ALWAYS TOLD ME, THE ROAD TO HELL IS PAVED WITH GOOD INTENTIONS.

I DON'T THINK ANYBODY, YOU'RE NOT GOING TO FIND ANYBODY THAT'S GOING TO ARGUE WITH THE BENEFIT OF HAVING THIS STAFF.

WE TALKED TO THE PRINCIPALS.

THIS IS WHAT THEY WANT.

THESE ARE THE SUPPORTS THEY NEED.

IT'S JUST A MATTER OF GIVE US SOME FLEXIBILITY IN HOW WE FUND IT.

I'M GUESSING THE REASON WHY THEY DON'T WANT THEM TO BE.

PAID FOR BY GRANTS BECAUSE THE GRANTS COME AND GO AND THE OTHER WAY DOESN'T.

I THINK THEY ALSO DON'T UNDERSTAND WHAT THEY'RE NOT FUNDING.

YEAH, I THINK, YEAH, IT JUST CONNECTS.

LIKE WHEN YOU LOOK AT SCHOOLS AND YOU SEE A NURSE AT MOST OF THE ELEMENTARY SCHOOLS AND YOU SEE THAT WE HAVE, YOU KNOW, LOWER CLASS SIZE IN EARLY CHILDHOOD AND WE HAVE COUNSELORS AND WE HAVE ALL THIS, THEY DON'T UNDERSTAND THAT THE STATE IS NOT PAYING FOR IT.

THE MAJORITY OF THOSE EXTRA POSITIONS AT ALL.

WHEN YOU ASK SOMEONE, A LAWMAKER, ABOUT THE PROTOTYPICAL MODEL, THEY REALLY DON'T UNDERSTAND.

LIKE I TRY TO USE THE SCENARIO, AND MAYBE IT'S CHANGED NOW, BUT IN ANY GIVEN ELEMENTARY SCHOOL, I HAVE MORE THAN SEVEN GENERAL FUNDED PARAEDUCATORS, RIGHT? BECAUSE YOU HAVE BEFORE SCHOOL, AFTER SCHOOL, YOU HAVE LUNCH, YOU HAVE...

EXTRA SUPPORT, YOU HAVE RECESS, ALL OF THE THINGS, BUT THEY ONLY PAY FOR SEVEN OF THOSE TOTAL FOR FERNDALE SCHOOL DISTRICT.

SO IF WE ACTUALLY FUNDED THE DISTRICT, LET'S SAY NEXT YEAR WE JUST SAY, GREAT, WE'RE NOT GOING

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TO HAVE ANY STAFF ABOVE WHAT THEY PAY FOR.

WE COULDN'T EVEN STAFF A SCHOOL.

SO I JUST DON'T THINK THEY REALLY DO GET THAT PART OF IT.

AND I THINK THE DISCONNECT TOO IS LIKE THEY'RE WRITING THE LAWS AND THE RULES OVER HERE.

AND THEN WHEN THEY'RE WORKING ON THE BUDGET, IT'S SO FAR SEPARATE THAT THEY'RE LIKE, WELL, YEAH, WE'RE STAFFING IT.

BUT IF YOU, AGAIN, STAFF THE PROTOTYPICAL STAFFING MODEL.

WE WOULDN'T EVEN GET A FULL COUNSELOR AT EVERY ELEMENTARY SCHOOL BECAUSE ELEMENTARY SCHOOLS SHOULD BE STAFFED 1 TO 811 STUDENTS FOR COUNSELORS.

SO THEY THINK, YEAH, FOLLOW THE MODEL, BUT THEN THE LAW IS SAYING WE NEED TO HAVE THIS MANY OVER HERE, SO THEY'RE NOT TALKING.

ANY RATIONAL PERSON WHO LOOKS AT THAT MODEL AND STOPS TO THINK ABOUT THE LOGISTICS WOULD HAVE TO GO, I MEAN, SURELY THE LEGISLATORS MUST TOO AT SOME POINT.

WOMAN WE'LL GIVE THEM THE BENEFIT OF THE DOUBT.

LIKELY MOST OF THESE RULES CAME ABOUT BECAUSE THERE WAS AN ISSUE THEY WERE TRYING TO ADDRESS, BUT THE PROBLEM IS THEY OVERLAP AND CREATE PROBLEMS. I THINK SIMILAR TO WHAT CHRISTY WAS SHARING ABOUT HOW MANY TIMES WE HAVE TO MEET AND HOW MUCH MONEY IS BEING SPENT IN THE ROOM.

ALSO, THE S275 REPORT IS A HUGE PIECE OF WORK FOR HR STAFF.

SO IT'S TAKING DAYS AND HOURS.

THEY'RE POURING THROUGH AND MAKING SURE EVERYONE'S CODED CORRECTLY AND THEY FIND SOMETHING AND WE'RE HAVING TO THEN MEET TO GO OVER, OKAY, IS THIS GOING TO MESS UP THE K-3 RATIO? IS THIS GOING TO MESS UP THE PSES? AND WE HAVE TO SUBMIT OUR INITIAL RIGHT BEFORE THANKSGIVING, SO RIGHT IN EARLY NOVEMBER.

WE HAVE TO SUBMIT AGAIN IN DECEMBER.

AND THEN IF THAT ONE'S RIGHT, GREAT, BECAUSE IF OUR APPORTIONMENT DOESN'T GET HIT IN JANUARY, THEN WE'RE SET.

AND THEN WE JUST HAVE TO SUBMIT THE FINAL IN JUNE.

BUT OTHERWISE, WE HAVE TO SUBMIT IN MARCH AND THEN IN JUNE.

AND THERE'S SO MANY DEADLINES IN HR AND THROUGH OUR BARGAINING CONTRACTS AND MAKING SURE WE'RE GETTING STUFF PUSHED OVER TO PAYROLL THAT IT'S A REALLY HUGE LIFT FOR THEM TO HAVE TO SCRUTINIZE THESE NUMBERS IN THIS REPORT JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE GETTING OUR FUNDING THAT WE DESPERATELY NEED.

SO IT'S A LOT OF WORK.

ARE THERE ANY OTHER COMMENTS ON PSES? K3 OR MARKS ARE DONE, READY TO MOVE ON? IT'S LIKE A PUZZLE.

I LIKE PUZZLES, BUT THIS IS RIDICULOUS.

WELL, PART OF THE ISSUE, I COULDN'T DO IT, IS THE CONTINUITY OF THE PEOPLE WHO ARE MAKING THE LAWS, RIGHT? SO YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT DIFFERENT GROUPS OF PEOPLE THAT ARE IMPACTING THE LAW AT DIFFERENT TIMES.

BACK IN THE PRE-MCCLEARY DAYS, WE HAD THE LEAP SCHEDULE, THE STAFF MIX.

SO WHEN YOU HIRED A TEACHER THAT WAS HIGHER ON THE SALARY SCHEDULE, THEY HAD MORE EXPERIENCE, THEY HAD AN ADVANCED DEGREE, YOU WEREN'T PENALIZED FOR THAT.

YOU ACTUALLY GOT FUNDED AT A HIGHER RATE FOR THAT STAFF MEMBER THAN YOU DID FOR SOMEBODY WHO WAS BRAND NEW.

IT WAS CALLED A STAFF MIX AND IT BALANCED IT OUT SO YOU GOT FUNDED FOR THE STAFF YOU ACTUALLY HAD.

SO WHEN THEY CAME OUT WITH THE FIX, THEY DID AWAY WITH THE MIX FACTOR AND THEY SAID WE'RE GOING TO PAY ON THE STATE AVERAGE, WHICH SOUNDS GREAT UNTIL YOU LOOK AT OUR STAFF THAT IS ALMOST EXCLUSIVELY AT THE TOP OF THIS IN THE TOP TWO CELLS OF THE SALARY SCHEDULE.

SO EVERY SINGLE STAFF MEMBER WE HAVE.

EVEN THE FORMULA STAFF, AND I'LL GET TO THE FORMULA IN A MINUTE, THEY ARE, WE'RE SUBSIDIZING THEIR SALARY BY $30,000 FOR EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THEM.

AND THOSE ARE THE FORMULA STAFF THAT THE STATE IS SUPPOSEDLY FUNDING.

I DON'T KNOW THAT THEY REALIZE.

IF YOU'RE NEW TO THE LEGISLATURE, YOU DON'T NECESSARILY KNOW.

THAT THAT CHANGE TOOK PLACE AND YOU THINK WELL PAYING AT THE STATE AVERAGE SOUNDS PERFECTLY REASONABLE RIGHT IT AVERAGES OUT WELL IT DOESN'T ACROSS THE STATE IT DOES BUT NOT PER DISTRICT THE OTHER PART OF THAT IS AGAIN PRE-MCLEARY THE STATE WHEN THEY WERE KIND OF GETTING EMBLAZED IN THIS KIND OF YOU NEED TO REVAMP THE FUNDING PROGRAM COMMISSIONED A STUDY THE PICUS STUDY THAT ACTUALLY CAME OUT AND SAID IF WE WERE TO ACTUALLY STAFF SCHOOLS, THE WAY THEY SHOULD BE STAFFED AT THE RATIOS AND THE NUMBERS OF NURSES AND PARAEDUCATORS AND COUNSELORS THAT THEY SHOULD HAVE, IT WAS GOING TO COST AN EXTRA BILLION

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DOLLARS INTO EDUCATION FOR THE STATE.

THE STATE SAID, WE DON'T HAVE THAT MUCH MONEY TO PUT INTO THIS PROGRAM.

SO THEY TOOK THE PROTOTYPICAL SCHOOL MODEL AND APPLIED THE STAFF THAT THE DISTRICTS ACTUALLY ALREADY EMPLOY AND JUST BACKED INTO THE MATH.

SO THEY TOOK THE EXISTING STAFF RATIOS THAT WERE UNDERFUNDED BEFORE AND JUST SPREAD IT OUT DIFFERENTLY.

SAID THIS IS THE PROTOTYPICAL SCHOOL MODEL, BUT IT WAS NEVER A FUNDING CHANGE, AND IT WAS NEVER INTENDED TO BE AN ACTUAL, THIS IS HOW YOU SHOULD STAFF YOUR BUILDING.

IT WAS JUST A BACKED-IN NUMBER TO REALLOCATE THE SAME AMOUNT OF MONEY THEY WERE GIVING US BEFORE.

SO THEY'RE WORKING FROM BAD INFORMATION RIGHT FROM THE BEGINNING.

DO YOU WANT TO SHARE THE STATE AVERAGE? SO THE STATE AVERAGE FOR THE 25-26 SCHOOL YEAR THAT WE GET FUNDED FOR A CERTIFICATE OF STAFF MEMBER IS $80,164, AND THAT'S INCLUDING BENEFITS.

DO WE HAPPEN TO KNOW WHAT OUR AVERAGE IS? WELL, LIKE MARK WAS SHARING, AT LEAST HALF OF OUR CERTIFICATE OF STAFF ARE THE MA-90 IN 16-PLUS YEARS.

WE USUALLY TYPICALLY CALCULATE THAT USUALLY COSTS THE DISTRICT $150,000 FOR SALARY AND BENEFITS.

SO ANYBODY IN THAT RANGE, THEY'RE ONLY PAYING ABOUT HALF? DOES THE STATE MANDATE CERTAIN SALARY SALES FOR, YOU KNOW, NUMBER OF YEARS SPENT AND EDUCATION LEVEL? THEY HAVE KIND OF A BASIC SALARY SCHEDULE THAT THEY CONSIDER THE DISTRICT SHOULD HAVE, BUT IT'S...

VARIES BECAUSE OF NEGOTIATIONS SO THEY HAVE THEY KIND OF GIVE SUGGESTIONS THEY DON'T HAVE A REQUIREMENT ON THE BA 0 BA 15 BA 45 THOSE BUT EVERYONE WITH THE LEAP SCHEDULE THEY USED TO AND SO MOST DISTRICTS KEPT AND MAINTAINED THAT EDUCATION LEVEL AND YEARS OF EXPERIENCE LIKE STEPS IT'S KIND OF HARD TO EXPLAIN BUT THEY HAVE A MINIMUM THEY HAVE A FIVE YEAR AT FIVE YEARS YOU HAVE TO BE SO MUCH MORE THAN THE MINIMUM AND THEY HAVE A MAXIMUM YEAH, WITH MCCLEARY, WHEN THEY MADE THE CHANGE, THEY DID AWAY WITH THE LEAP SCHEDULE.

LIKE MOST OF THE DISTRICTS KEPT IT BECAUSE IT'S WHAT WE WERE USED TO.

AND IT WAS ALREADY WRAPPED INTO SO MANY BARGAINING AGREEMENTS.

IT USED TO BE A FIXED SALARY SCHEDULE.

AND DEVIATIONS WERE THEN NEGOTIATED ON TOP OF THAT, BUT IT WAS A STANDARDIZED SCHEDULE.

SO, HOLLY, NOT THAT IT'S ANY FAULT OF YOURS.

IT'S MARK HAVING TO SPEAK HIS PIECE.

SO WE'RE AT 637.

AND I DON'T KNOW WHERE YOU'RE AT, IF YOU'RE ON SLIDE TWO OF 80 OR...

I THINK WE HAVE ABOUT FOUR SLIDES LEFT.

OKAY.

YOU'RE DOING PRETTY GOOD.

I'LL STAY QUIET AND SHE CAN GO FIRST.

LET'S SEE.

THIS WE CAN SKIP OVER BECAUSE WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THIS BEFORE.

IT'S JUST ABOUT THE F95 BUDGET PROCESS, JUST KIND OF ALL THE THINGS THAT ARE HAPPENING IN HR RIGHT NOW.

FINANCE IS WORKING ON THE MSOC BUDGETS AND THE ASB BUDGETS, AND SO I DON'T THINK WE NEED TO TALK ABOUT THAT.

IT WOULDN'T BE A MEETING WITH ME TALKING WITHOUT TALKING ABOUT FUND BALANCE, SO JUST A REVIEW.

THIS IS MAYBE A BRIGHT SHINING LIGHT AT THE END OF A TOUGH MEETING.

OUR LEVY COLLECTION WAS GREAT.

SO THE GREEN LINE WENT WAY UP.

WE'RE ALMOST AT $10 MILLION IN FUND BALANCE RIGHT NOW.

WE EXPECT TO HAVE A BIG COLLECTION IN.

APRIL, BUT IT DID COME OVER WHAT WE ESTIMATED, OUR CONSERVATIVE ESTIMATE, SO THAT'S GREAT.

AND THEN THE LAST THING I HAD WAS THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS BUDGET, SO YOUR BRC, NUMBER 1110. SO WE USUALLY USE HISTORICAL DATA TO SET THE BUDGET, AND I'M PROPOSING A COUPLE CHANGES.

I KIND OF DID A PROPOSED BUDGET.

I'LL SHOW IT TO YOU, AND THEN YOU GUYS CAN KIND OF THINK ABOUT IT.

AND THEN.

AT OUR NEXT MEETING, PERHAPS YOU CAN LET ME KNOW IF IT LOOKS GOOD.

THE DONATIONS, I'M PROPOSING THAT WE USE THOSE IN 25-26 FOR SOME COST.

I CAN EITHER JV SOME COST THAT WE'VE ALREADY SPENT OVER THERE BECAUSE THEY'VE JUST BEEN SITTING THERE FOREVER.

I THINK THERE'S $338 IN THERE.

AND THEN WE ZEROED OUT YOUR ELECTION FEES BECAUSE THERE'S NO ELECTIONS IN 26-27, NO BOARD MEMBERS TURNING OVER, NO LEVY OR BOND.

SO TOTAL BUDGET IS $105,000.

AND IT LOOKS LIKE THIS.

SO THE FIRST COLUMN IS THIS YEAR, 25-26.

I PUT THE 25-26, THE ACTIVITY THAT'S HAPPENED SO FAR AS OF TODAY, OR NO, AS OF APRIL 30TH.

AND THEN I PUT THE PROPOSED BUDGET.

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SO I CAN SEND YOU ALL A COPY OF THIS AND THEN YOU CAN JUST LET ME KNOW WHAT YOU THINK ARE CHANGES THAT NEED TO HAPPEN.

AND CAN WE SHARE THE WHOLE POWERPOINT WITH THE BOARD? COULD THEY GET A COPY OF IT AND THEN THAT WAY YOU WOULD HAVE IT AND CAN LOOK IT OVER? WILL WE HAVE, I'M JUST WONDERING HISTORICALLY, IF THERE'S ANY DIFFERENCE.

I SEE THAT.

THE CONFERENCE REGISTRATION TRAVELS UP A LITTLE BIT, BUT WE'LL HAVE WASDAS OVER IN SPOKANE, WHICH I DON'T KNOW IF THAT WILL BUMP OUR COSTS OR CHANGE IT VERSUS SEATTLE.

I DID BUMP UP TRAVEL.

YEAH, I SAW THAT.

AND THE CONFERENCE REGISTRATION I PUT TO $10,000.

YEAH, WHICH I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT TYPICALLY LOOKS.

I MEAN, IF WE LOOKED AT TWO YEARS AGO BASED ON BUDGET.

THAT MIGHT GIVE US A LITTLE BIT OF AN IDEA.

DO THEY HAVE REGISTRATION FEES OUT AND STUFF YET? NO, BUT THEY'RE TYPICALLY THE SAME.

HOTEL IS RELATIVELY THE SAME.

IT WOULD JUST BE TRAVEL.

AND THE OTHER THING IS THESE ARE JUST ESTIMATES.

SO IF WE, DOWN THE LINE, ONCE WE GET INTO THE YEAR AND WE'RE LIVING THIS BUDGET, WE CAN ALWAYS MOVE LINE ITEMS BETWEEN TO ADJUST.

WELL, AND IF YOU LOOK AT IT, TRAVEL EXPENSES IS ONE LINE, AND THEN CONFERENCE REGISTRATION IS THE OTHER.

SO I THINK IT WILL WORK, AND IF NOT, WE'VE GOT A GOOD WHITE VAN AND GET SOME GOOD SNOW TIRES ON AND DRIVE ON OVER.

WE DO HAVE NICE VANS.

WE DO HAVE NICE VANS, AND I'M SURE ONE OF US KNOWS HOW TO DRIVE IN THE SNOW.

WHAT? HOW? HOLLY.

HOW FAR CAN YOU GO BACK TO THE FUND BALANCE SLIDE AGAIN? YEAH, AND THIS IS A PREVIEW.

THIS WILL BE IN YOUR NEXT PRESENTATION.

SO IT'S LIKE $1.7 MILLION OVER.

SINCE WE'RE AT THE LAST SLIDE, WHEN WILL WE KNOW WHAT WE'RE BUDGETING FOR SPECIFIC ITEMS? I GUESS I'M...

YOU KNOW, WE TALKED ABOUT THE JANUARY SURVEY, AND THE TWO PRIORITIES WERE THE FUND BALANCE AND THE CAPITAL'S RENEWAL FUNDS OR WHATEVER.

WHAT ARE WE LOOKING AT FUNDING THE CAPITAL RENEWAL RIGHT NOW? I KNOW JAMIE'S GOING THROUGH THIS EXERCISE.

YOU MENTIONED THAT.

BUT AS A BALLPARK NUMBER, WHAT DO WE THINK WE'RE GOING TO BE ABLE TO BUDGET FOR THAT ITEM? I THINK IT'S GOING TO BE ABSORBED WITHIN THE MAINTENANCE BUDGET.

BAINIS HAS THEIR MSOC BUDGET.

OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD, I WANT TO SAY IT'S $1.6 MILLION, BUT THAT'S FOR EVERYTHING FOR THE WHOLE YEAR.

THAT DOESN'T INCLUDE STAFF.

THAT'S JUST LIKE ALL THE THINGS THEY HAVE TO BUY, THE SERVICES THEY HAVE TO BUY.

SO IT WOULD JUST BE PART OF THAT.

THAT WAS A PRIORITY, BUT I THINK THE HIGHER PRIORITIES OVER THOSE WERE THE TWO STRATEGIC, YOU KNOW, THE...

MASTERY OF STANDARDS AND THE SAFETY AND BELONGING.

AND, LIKE, OUR FIRST OBLIGATION IS TO DO THE EDUCATION.

SO I DON'T KNOW THAT WE HAVE AND, MARK, IF YOU WANT TO WEIGH IN, ANYTHING FURTHER SET ASIDE FOR CAPITAL? WELL, I'LL WEIGH IN WHILE MARK THINKS.

BUT, I MEAN, THAT'S ALWAYS BEEN THE CHALLENGE BECAUSE YOU'VE GOT X DOLLARS AND YOU CAN GO TEACHERS, YOU CAN GO BUILDINGS, YOU KNOW.

AND.

AND HISTORICALLY, THERE'S BEEN MORE OF A TREND TOWARDS THE PEOPLE, LESS TOWARDS BUILDING, AND THAT'S BEEN A THING THAT HAS BIT US IN THE BACKSIDE.

BUT IT STILL COMES DOWN TO THAT BECAUSE YOU ARE GOING TO BE YOU'VE ONLY GOT X DOLLARS TO WORK WITH, AND BECAUSE WE AREN'T GETTING FULLY FUNDED, WE HAVE TO DECIDE WHAT'S OUR PRIORITY.

AND IT'S ONE OF THOSE CONVERSATIONS, THOUGH, PERHAPS THAT WE NEED TO HAVE IS WHAT ARE SOME OTHER STRATEGIES TO GET MONEY INTO THAT ACCOUNT? SO IF IT CAN'T COME AT THE EXPENSE, NOR SHOULD IT COME AT THE EXPENSE OF STUDENTS LEARNING.

BECAUSE JUST SO YOU KNOW, WHEN WE WERE BUDGETING THIS YEAR, ONE OF THE COST SAVINGS WAS WE RAISED THE CLASS SIZE BECAUSE THAT'S ONE STRATEGY.

AND SO THAT WAS ONE THING WE DID.

AND SO YOU WE CAN BEGIN TO THINK THROUGH AND MARK CAN HELP US THINK THROUGH WHAT ARE SOME STRATEGIES.

WE'RE ALWAYS LOOKING FOR GRANTS, THAT'S ONE, BUT ARE THERE OTHER THINGS THAT WE CAN BE DOING THAT WOULD FEED RIGHT INTO THAT? SO I DON'T KNOW WHAT THOSE ARE, BUT YEAH, THAT'S THE KIND

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OF CONVERSATION WE NEED TO HAVE ABOUT HOW TO GET MONEY THERE WITHOUT COMING AT THE EXPENSE OF...

WELL, AND THE PROBLEM BEING, IF, LIKE MARK SAID, IF WE'RE SOMEWHERE BETWEEN NEEDING THREE TO SIX MILLION FOR...

JUST RENEWAL OF OUR FACILITIES EACH YEAR, AND YOU ONLY HAVE 1.6, WHICH I'M ASSUMING IS PARTIALLY MAINTENANCE.

IT'S NOT TOTALLY PART OF THAT 3 TO 6 MILLION.

YOU'RE GETTING THAT MUCH FARTHER BEHIND, AND THEN YOU END UP WITH THIS BIG HOLE THAT NOW IT'S AN ELEPHANT TO TRY AND EAT.

YEAH, I THINK KIND OF THE IMMEDIATE ANSWER TO YOUR QUESTION, BRIAN, IS WE HAVE TO FINISH THE STAFFING FIRST.

IS THAT, I MEAN, WE HAVE TO, THERE'S A CERTAIN LEVEL OF STAFFING THAT WE HAVE TO HAVE.

AND SO WE'RE WORKING ON FINALIZING THAT.

THAT WILL DETERMINE WHETHER WE HAVE ANY WIGGLE AT ALL TO HAVE CONVERSATIONS ABOUT WHERE DO WE APPLY SOME THINGS.

SO WE'RE PROBABLY A WEEK OR TWO AWAY FROM BEING IN A BETTER POSITION TO KNOW WHETHER WE EVEN HAVE A...

AMOUNT OF MONEY THAT WE CAN HAVE THAT CONVERSATION OR NOT.

YEAH, OKAY, GREAT.

AND I THINK THAT'S THE END OF WHAT WE HAVE FOR BUDGET.

ANY QUESTIONS? I KNOW YOU GUYS HAD OTHER THINGS YOU WANTED TO DISCUSS, SO I'LL SIGN OFF.

I JUST, THINKING OUT LOUD, I THINK ABOUT HOW RIGHT NOW WE'RE DOING BARGAINING, AND...

I'M SURE THAT ALL THE PEOPLE, THE STAFF, KNOW THAT THE MORE THEY TAKE IN WAGES, THE LESS THERE'S GOING TO BE TO MAKE EVERYTHING ELSE GREAT FOR THE KIDS.

I'M JUST SURE THEY ARE KEEPING THAT IN MIND BECAUSE THINGS ARE SO TIGHT.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, COMMENTS? THANK YOU, MARK, HOLLY, KARA.

GO AHEAD.

YEAH, SO I KNOW YOU GUYS ARE CUTTING BACK IN AREAS THAT ARE, YOU KNOW, COST SAVINGS TRYING TO BE FOUND WITH SOFTWARE, YOU KNOW, CONTRACTS THAT WE HAVE THAT MAYBE, I MEAN, WE DON'T NEED ANY MORE SERVICES THAT YOU'RE CONSOLIDATING, THAT SORT OF THING.

ANY IDEA HOW MUCH YOU CAN FREE UP THAT WAY FOR MAINTENANCE? WELL, IT WOULDN'T NECESSARILY GO TO MAINTENANCE, BUT IT MIGHT GO TO CURRICULUM, OR IT MIGHT GO TO AN EXTRA NURSE.

THAT'S WHAT MARK WAS SAYING.

FIRST, WE'RE JUST TRYING TO FIGURE OUT, LIKE, FOR EXAMPLE, BEHAVIOR HAS COME UP.

THE MENTAL HEALTH SUPPORTS AROUND SOME OF THE GRANTS FOR MENTAL HEALTH HAVE GONE AWAY.

SO THE PEOPLE WHO HAVE BEEN DOING SOME OF THAT DIRECT SUPPORT WITH...

BEHAVIORS, WE DON'T HAVE MONEY FOR THEM.

SO NOW WE'RE TRYING TO GET REALLY CREATIVE HOW TO, IN LIEU OF THE GRANTS GOING AWAY, HOW DO WE MAINTAIN IT BECAUSE THOSE ARE STILL NEEDED.

SO THOSE ARE SOME OF THE THINGS WHEN YOU LOOK AT OUR OUTCOMES.

MATHEMATICS, NEW STANDARDS ARE COMING.

HOW DO WE FIND MONEY TO MAKE SURE THAT WE CAN PROVIDE SOME PROFESSIONAL DEVELOPMENT TO LEARN ABOUT THE NEW STANDARDS AND DIVE INTO MATHEMATICS? SO YOU THOSE ARE THE KINDS OF THINGS TO DO IN TERMS OF CAPITAL PROJECTS.

I'M NOT SUGGESTING THIS, BUT DO WE LOOK AT SOME OF THE, MAYBE A LITTLE PIECE OF PROPERTY OR SOMETHING? LIKE WE'RE HAVING THAT CONVERSATION AROUND DISCOVERY, NOT SAYING THAT THAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN, BUT IF THAT WERE TO HAPPEN AND WE WERE TO SELL THAT BUILDING, THEN THOSE FUNDS CAN STAY WITHIN AND MOVE TOWARDS MAINTENANCE BECAUSE IT'S NOT GENERAL MAINTENANCE, BUT...

CAPITAL PROJECTS BECAUSE IT'S AN EARMARKED GROUP OF DOLLARS THAT HAVE TO BE SPENT IN A CERTAIN WAY.

SO THOSE ARE THE KINDS OF CONVERSATIONS AND CREATIVITY THAT I THINK WE CAN HAVE, WHICH I FEEL GREAT ABOUT THAT BECAUSE IT WAS THE COMMUNITY WHO PASSED A BOND AT ONE TIME TO BUILD THAT SCHOOL.

SO BEING ABLE TO REPURPOSE THOSE DOLLARS TOWARDS ANOTHER SCHOOL THAT WE'RE USING FEELS LIKE A REALLY FISCALLY RESPONSIBLE WAY TO GO.

THOSE ARE THE KINDS OF THINGS I WAS THINKING ABOUT.

AND IN TERMS OF WHAT WE WOULD SAVE, IT MIGHT BE LIKE, I DON'T KNOW, $50,000 ON SOFTWARE RIGHT NOW.

WE JUST KEEP CHISELING AWAY.

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WELL, AFTER THE IMPRESSIVE REPORT FROM LAST TIME, IT'S LIKE, OKAY, LOOK AT THE FUND BALANCE.

WELL, THAT WAS THIS CUT, THIS CUT, THERE WAS A BUNCH OF LITTLE THINGS.

AND SO, YOU KNOW.

IT DOES, AS IF WE WERE TALKING JUST THE OTHER DAY ABOUT TRAVEL, HOW WE HAD.

TRAVEL REALLY IS NOT OVERALL A HUGE EXPENSE IN A DISTRICT, BUT WHEN YOU GET REALLY CLEAR ON THE BOUNDARIES AROUND TRAVEL, THEN IT ACTUALLY DOES MAKE A BIG DENT BECAUSE IT'S NOT LITTLE THINGS HERE AND THERE, AND OVER TIME IT DOES, IT HELPS, AND IT JUST BRINGS SOME CLARITY.

SO I THINK OUR BOUNDARIES ARE HELPING.

AND I HAVE TO SAY, OUR STAFF REALLY HAS BEEN AMAZING.

YOU BROUGHT UP THE...

BARGAIN AND IT'S NOT NECESSARILY THAT BUT LIKE I DON'T GET A LOT OF COMPLAINTS ABOUT WE HAVE TO SAY NO TO THIS OR NO TO THAT BECAUSE I THINK PEOPLE ARE SEEING THAT WE'RE INVESTING IN THE PEOPLE AND WE'RE INVESTING IN THE KIDS PEOPLE ARE FEELING SUPPORTED WE'VE WORKED REALLY HARD NOT TO LET OUR STUDENTS KNOW THAT THIS IS AN ISSUE AND KEEP IT AT THE ADULT LEVEL AND PEOPLE HAVE BEEN REALLY PRETTY GREAT ABOUT IT A LOT OF MANY HANDS DOING A LOT OF NEW JOBS, BUT GREAT BUT WITH WITH GRATITUDE.

IT'S SOMETHING THAT I THINK IS PRETTY SPECIAL HERE, AND AS I WORK WITH SUPERINTENDENTS, I DON'T KNOW THAT THAT'S THE MENTALITY EVERYWHERE.

SO I FEEL VERY GRATEFUL.

WELL, THANK YOU AGAIN.

APPRECIATE YOU LAYING THAT ALL OUT, BECAUSE AS WE SAW TONIGHT, IT'S A VERY SIMPLE PROCESS.

PARTICULARLY, I SEE...

KARA THERE WITH ALL THE SPREADSHEETS THAT ARE SAYING

[3. SHARING]

CIRCULAR REFERENCE, CIRCULAR REFERENCE, AND JUST GOING ROUND AND ROUND.

SO THAT LEAVES US A FEW MINUTES FOR BOARD SHARING.

AND I KNOW THAT PEGGY HAD SOMETHING ON HER MIND BECAUSE SHE GAVE US THIS QUALITY PRINTOUT.

SHE'S SAVING MONEY.

SHE IS SAVING MONEY.

NO, THAT WOULD BE CARL SAVING MONEY.

SO ANYWAY, IF YOU WANT TO GO AHEAD AND START.

WELL, I THINK THAT ONE WAS ACTUALLY FOR NANCY BECAUSE THIS LEDGE REP ENDED INVOLVING THE, AND I HAVE A DIFFERENT THING.

A DIFFERENT THING? AFTER SHE'S DONE.

OKAY, THEN IF NANCY WANTS TO START.

OH, I THOUGHT THAT WAS YOUR THING.

OKAY, WELL THEN NEVER MIND.

I GUESS I'LL DO THIS THING TOO.

I JUST, IT WAS, OKAY.

OKAY.

OKAY.

SO Y'ALL GOT THE EMAIL FROM WASD REGARDING THE MODEL POLICY, THE LITTLE WINDOW FOR OFFERING FEEDBACK ON A POLICY REVISION THAT THEY ARE MAKING.

AND IT'S A TRIAL BALLOON.

THEY'RE PUTTING IT OUT THERE.

I PRINTED IT OUT, BUT IT'S IN YOUR EMAIL.

THEY REQUEST THAT YOU READ IT AND THEN OFFER ANY COMMENTS.

ON ESSENTIALLY CLARIFICATION OF LANGUAGE, PERSPECTIVES ON IMPLEMENTATION OF THE POLICY, IF YOU SEE PROBLEMS WITH THAT, OR IF YOU SEE ANY CLEARLY CLEAR CONFLICTS WITH OTHER LAWS THAT YOU POINT THAT OUT.

SO THAT WAS WHAT THEY ARE REQUESTING, AND THE TIMELINE FOR COMMENTING ON THIS IS THE 11TH THROUGH THE 18TH. WE'RE PAST THE 11TH, AND WE'RE COMING UP ON THE 18TH.

I THINK THIS IS AN IMPORTANT THING BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, WSDSA SERVES BOARDS, AND FOR BOARDS TO HAVE SOME FEEDBACK ON PRODUCTS THAT WSDSA CREATES, I THINK, IS APPROPRIATE.

AND THEY'VE HIT THIS COMPROMISE OF THIS IS THE TIME FRAME TO COMMENT.

I ALSO WANT TO ASK CHRISTY TO LOOK AT THIS BECAUSE I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT THE PEOPLE THAT WE HAVE IMPLEMENTING THESE POLICIES IN THIS CASE, THIS IS ON RESTRAINT AND ISOLATION.

AND SO THEY'RE THE ONES THAT COULD TELL US, YOU KNOW, HEY, THIS IS GOING TO BE REALLY DIFFICULT TO IMPLEMENT.

THEY'RE THE ONES THAT WE NEED FEEDBACK FROM.

SO I WOULD WELCOME ANY INPUT FROM YOU GUYS ON HOW TO GET INPUT FROM THEM.

AND IS MY UNDERSTANDING CORRECT THAT THIS IS KIND OF A STARTING, LIKE THIS IS THE FIRST ONE AND THERE WILL BE MORE, WHICH I'M ASSUMING THAT MEANS THAT IF...

IF THEY GET VERY LITTLE INPUT, THERE'S GOING TO BE LESS INCENTIVE.

SO I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE DO.

AND I THINK THAT'S AN EXCELLENT IDEA TO HAVE THOSE THAT ARE INVOLVED IN DOING IT.

THE OTHER QUESTION IS WE KIND OF TALKED ABOUT THIS AT THE PREVIOUS MEETING, AND I KNOW WE HAD TALKED ABOUT SUBMITTING OPINIONS AS A BOARD.

NOW THEY'RE SAYING THAT YOU CAN GO IN AS AN INDIVIDUAL BOARD DIRECTOR AND LEAVE COMMENTS.

SO I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU GUYS WANT TO DO THAT.

YOU KNOW, THAT'S THE OTHER THING.

DO WE WANT TO HAVE AN AGREEMENT

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THAT THESE ARE THE CHANGES THAT WE, OR, YOU KNOW, THE THINGS THAT WE SEE THAT WE WANT TO COMMENT ON, OR JUST LET EVERYBODY COMMENT ON IT LIKE THEY SAID INDIVIDUALLY, YEAH.

I DIDN'T GET THIS EMAIL.

SO MAYBE, I DON'T KNOW WHY, BUT I DIDN'T.

I WILL FORWARD IT TO YOU BECAUSE IT'S SUPPOSED TO GO TO ALL BOARD DIRECTORS.

WE MAY WANT, YOU MAY WANT TO CONTACT WASDA IF YOU DIDN'T GET IT JUST TO SEE.

AND I'M ASKING YOU TO DO IT JUST BECAUSE THAT WAY YOU GET THE CONNECTION AND YOU'RE THE BOARD MEMBER.

BUT BECAUSE YOU SHOULD BE LISTED AS PART OF OUR BOARD.

AND IF YOU'RE NOT GETTING THAT.

THE QUESTION IS WHAT ELSE SHOULD BE.

MAYBE IF YOU FORWARD IT TO ME, THEN I CAN CONTACT THEM AND SAY, HEY, I DON'T GET THIS.

I HAVEN'T HEARD ANYTHING AND HAVEN'T SOUGHT OUT ON IT, BUT I'M WONDERING IF THERE'S ANY DIFFERENCE BETWEEN WHETHER INDIVIDUAL, YOU KNOW, IS THERE ANY MORE WAITING IF A BOARD WEIGHS IN VERSUS AS INDIVIDUALS? I DON'T KNOW ENOUGH ABOUT THE PROCESS TO KNOW IF IT MAKES ANY DIFFERENCE.

YEAH, I DON'T KNOW THAT EITHER.

I THINK THAT'S A REALLY GOOD QUESTION.

AND IF YOU WOULD LIKE ME TO ASK THAT, I COULD GET BACK TO YOU ON THAT.

THAT WOULD BE GREAT.

IF YOU COULD JUST SEND US OUT AN INFORMATIONAL DO NOT REPLY TYPE.

RIGHT.

OKAY.

I'D BE WILLING AND HAPPY TO DO THAT.

COOL.

THANK YOU.

SO I HAVE ANOTHER THING, BUT IF YOU HAVE A THING, YOU CAN DO YOUR THING AND I'LL DO MY THING.

EITHER WAY.

ARE YOU SURE? OKAY.

OKAY.

SO, MARK, YOU KNOW, WE TALKED AT THE LAST MEETING ABOUT HOW WE HAD THE RESOLUTION WHERE WE SENT THE, YOU KNOW, WE TOOK A STANCE AGAINST THE MFTE, RIGHT? AND THERE'S THE CITY OF FERNDALIA.

AND I SUGGESTED AT THE TIME THAT MAYBE WE OUGHT TO LOOK INTO WHAT THE COUNTY IS DOING AS WELL AND SEE IF THERE ARE SIMILAR SITUATIONS AFFECTING TAXPAYERS IN THE UNINCORPORATED AREAS OF OUR DISTRICT.

AND LOOKING AT THE COMPREHENSIVE PLANNING, SEEING IF THERE IS ANYTHING IN THERE THAT WE MIGHT WANT TO JUST STAND UP AND TAKE A POSITION ON, DIDN'T GET ALL THAT FAR, TO BE HONEST WITH YOU.

I STARTED, WHAT THE HECK, PLOWING THROUGH.

OH, THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN IS A VERY PAINFUL THING TO READ.

ANYWAY, BUT I'VE BEEN TALKING TO OTHER PEOPLE ABOUT THIS, TOO, AND APPARENTLY THE THING THAT CAME UP AS A RELATIVELY LARGE DEAL WASN'T NECESSARILY THIS, ALTHOUGH THERE MAY BE SOME THINGS THERE STILL.

BUT THE CITY OF FERNDALE SENT COUNTY COUNCIL A LETTER REGARDING ZONING.

OUT AT CHERRY POINT SAYING LEAVE IT ALONE OR LET THE CITY MAKE DECISIONS REGARDING ANY REZONING FOR THE INDUSTRIAL AREAS.

SINCE THAT IS A BIG TAX BASE FOR US, I THINK IT MIGHT, THIS IS MY OPINION, DO WITH IT WHAT YOU WILL YOU GUYS, BUT I WOULD LIKE TO STAND WITH THE CITY AND MAYBE EVEN PULL BLAINE SCHOOL DISTRICT INTO THIS TO SEND COUNTY COUNCIL A MESSAGE THAT SAYS WE WOULD WE STAND WITH THE CITY OF FERNDALE REGARDING ZONING OUT AT CHERRY POINT.

JUST PUTTING IT OUT THERE.

I THOUGHT IT WAS IN THE BIG TEXT.

I THOUGHT IT WAS.

ANTONIO? NO, UNTIL 66 IS NOT.

OKAY, I THOUGHT IT WAS.

IT'S ALL BLAINE.

IT'S ALL BLAINE.

BUT, OKAY, BUT WHEN YOU GET DOWN TO, LIKE, FUTURE INDUSTRIAL USE OUT THERE.

I MEAN, IF WE COULD REPLACE INTELCO WITH SOMETHING COMPARABLE IN TERMS OF, YOU KNOW.

THAT'S OURS.

YEAH, I FEEL RATHER STRONGLY ABOUT THAT.

IN THE PAST, THAT WAS A BIG DEAL.

AND I DON'T KNOW, I WOULD REALLY LIKE TO KNOW, I HAVEN'T RESEARCHED IT.

YOU KNOW, AFTER INTELCO LEFT, WHAT, I MEAN, IT'S SHUT DOWN.

THEY STILL OWN THE PROPERTY AND THEY'RE STILL PAYING PROPERTY TAXES.

BUT I'D LIKE TO KNOW HOW MUCH IT WAS DEVALUED, HOW MUCH WE LOST IN TERMS OF.

YOU KNOW TAXES BASED ON THAT UM IF IT WERE A PRODUCTIVE INDUSTRIAL UH PROPERTY UM I MEAN IN THE PAST INTELCO SUPPORTS A LOT OF THINGS SCHOOL DISTRICT AND IT'S IT'S A CONCERN THAT'S THIS IS MY OPINION AND SO I WAS PUTTING IT OUT THERE OKAY.

ANY THOUGHTS OR COMMENTS IN REGARDS TO THAT?

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WHAT I WOULD SUGGEST IS THAT MAYBE WE WORK WITH PEGGY TO WRITE UP A RESOLUTION THAT YOU WOULD LIKE THE BOARD TO CONSIDER AND THEN PUT THAT ON THE DOCKET AT THE NEXT MEETING FOR THE BOARD TO WEIGH IN ON.

I MEAN, BECAUSE I THINK WHAT YOU'RE, AND IT GOES WITH THE BUDGET TONIGHT, RIGHT? LIKE THESE ARE THE KINDS OF THINGS WE HAVE TO BE INVOLVED IN AS WE THINK ABOUT OUR OVERALL BUDGET.

WE CAN'T JUST LOOK TO THE STATE AND WHAT THEY'RE GIVING US, BUT ALSO THE DECISIONS THAT ARE BEING MADE LOCALLY THAT IMPACT THE SCHOOL DISTRICT.

AND SO I THINK THAT'S PART OF IT.

DOES THAT WORK? BECAUSE I'M HAPPY TO WORK WITH YOU, CHRIS, AND MARK, EVERYBODY ELSE.

HERE, MY TEAM, WE'RE HAPPY TO WORK WITH YOU.

WELL, AND THE THING IS, IS I KNOW THAT THERE IS AN ATTITUDE TOWARD, YOU KNOW, PETROLEUM INDUSTRY, YOU KNOW, THAT'S OUT THERE.

BUT WHEN YOU'RE THINKING ABOUT MANUFACTURING, WHEN YOU'RE THINKING ABOUT INDUSTRY, YOU KNOW, THAT ALSO INCLUDES GREEN ENERGY PROJECTS, THINGS THAT MIGHT, YOU KNOW, MAKE EVERYBODY HAPPY IN TERMS OF, BUT STILL PRODUCE SOMETHING THAT WOULD SERVE AS A...

YOU KNOW REVENUE GENERATOR AND NOT ONLY THAT BUT PROVIDE JOBS FOR OUR STUDENTS AND AND JUST I MEAN I I LOOK AT LIKE THE CITY'S COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND THE THE THE THE COMMENTS THAT THEY MAKE THERE IN THE IN THE INTRODUCTION AND AND IN THE IN THE LAND USE AREA AND IT SADDENS ME GREATLY BECAUSE THEY ESSENTIALLY TALK ABOUT.

CHANGING THE EXPECTATIONS FOR FUTURE GENERATIONS.

AND IT JUST MAKES ME SAD.

AND I THINK WE WANT THE BEST FOR FUTURE GENERATIONS.

WE WANT THEM TO HAVE THE THINGS THAT WE HAD.

WE WANT THEM TO BE ABLE TO ASPIRE TO, YOU KNOW, BE PRODUCTIVE, TO BE ABLE TO SUPPORT THEMSELVES AND TO KIND OF LIVE THE AMERICAN DREAM.

AND SO THAT'S...

KIND OF WHERE I'M COMING FROM WITH THIS IS I THINK, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE STUDENTS, WE'RE SUPPOSED TO PREPARE THEM FOR THE FUTURE.

I HOPE THAT THE FUTURE THAT AWAITS THEM IS A GOOD ONE IN WHATCOM COUNTY.

SEEMS LIKE A REASONABLE HOPE.

YEAH, VERY TRUE.

NANCY, RUMOR HAS IT YOU HAVE SOMETHING.

YES, THANK YOU.

OKAY, IF YOU REMEMBER THE LAST TIME THAT WE HAD A MEETING, THIS LAST BOARD MEETING, I HAD SEVERAL POSITION PROPOSALS, FIVE OF THEM TO RETIRE AND TWO OF THEM TO AMEND, AND YOU ALL GAVE ME PERMISSION TO, YEAH, GO AHEAD WITH IT.

SO THE LEGISLATIVE, THE WASDA LEGISLATIVE COMMITTEE WENT THROUGH ALL OF THEM, AND ALL OF THEM PASSED EXCEPT ONE.

AND THE REASON THAT IT...

IT DID NOT PASS IS BECAUSE IT WAS THE FEDERAL DREAM ACT TO RETIRE THAT AND THE RATIONALE FOR RETIRING IT WAS WAS THAT THEY ARE A STATE WAS THIS FOR OUR STATE AND NOT FOR THE FEDERAL LEVEL.

AND SO WHY DOES IT MATTER? BUT I COME TO FIND OUT THROUGH THE LEGISLATIVE TEAM THAT THERE IS A FEDERAL.

A FEDERAL TEAM AT WASDA THAT ACTS ON LEGISLATION, SO THERE'S NO REASON TO WITHDRAW IT.

SO I TOOK THE INITIATIVE TO GO AHEAD AND WITHDRAW THAT ONE SO THAT IT WOULD NOT BE ON THERE AS A DO NOT PASS, BECAUSE IT IS STILL USEFUL WHEN I THOUGHT IT WAS NOT USEFUL WHEN I BROUGHT IT FORWARD.

SO I'M JUST INFORMING YOU OF THAT.

SO WE HAVE SIX, NOT SEVEN, THAT WE BROUGHT AS PROPOSAL.

EITHER RETIREMENTS OR AMENDMENTS.

IF YOU'VE GOT ANY QUESTIONS, JUST ASK.

CAN I ADD TO THAT? OKAY, SO THE WOSDA NATIONAL GROUP THAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT IS GOING TO HAVE A ZOOM MEETING TOMORROW.

WOSDA FEDERAL RELATIONS ADVOCACY OR SOMETHING.

YEAH, AND THEY'RE, I THINK THIS IS A ZOOM MEETING, I BELIEVE IT'S TOMORROW AT NOON-ISH.

AND SO IF YOU GUYS WANT A LINK TO THAT, I CAN SEND IT. I JUST SIGNED UP TO BE ON THEIR THING BECAUSE EVERY ONCE IN A WHILE I LIKE TO CHECK IN AND SEE WHAT THEY'RE DOING.

BUT I'VE GOT THE LINK IF YOU GUYS WANT IT TO, YOU KNOW, SIT IN ON THEIR DISCUSSION. I'LL FORWARD IT. IT'S JUST INFORMATION. SO I'LL SEND IT TO YOU AND YOU CAN SEND IT TO EVERYBODY. THAT'LL WORK.

OKAY. ANYTHING ELSE, NANCY? NO, THAT'S OH, WAIT, NO. OH,

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I'VE GOT SOME GOOD PERSONAL NEWS. NOBODY CAN STEAL MY JOY.

I'M GOING TO BE A GRANDMA. MY SON'S WIFE IS PREGNANT AND I NEVER THOUGHT THIS WOULD HAPPEN. SO I AM JUST OVER THE MOON HAPPY ABOUT THIS. AND SO I SHOULD BECOME A GRANDMA BEFORE THANKSGIVING.

CONGRATULATIONS. BRIAN AND ANTONIO? I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING FOR TONIGHT. OKAY. JUST APPRECIATE THE INFORMATION THAT WE GOT FROM THE BUDGET. THANK YOU SO MUCH. IT WAS THOROUGH, AND WE GOT ALL THE NUMBERS, SO THAT'S CLEAR. THANK YOU.

AND I REALLY HOPE WE HAD A VIEWERSHIP, BECAUSE IT REALLY WAS THOROUGH AND A GOOD DISCUSSION, I THINK. THIS IS ONE OF THOSE MEETINGS THAT I SEND OUT TO OUR COMMUNITY. SO I'LL... SEND IT OUT TO LEGISLATORS. I'LL PUT IT IN A BUDGET UPDATE BECAUSE I JUST THINK INFORMATION IS POWER.

AND I THINK THE MORE THAT WE ALL UNDERSTAND AND OUR COMMUNITY UNDERSTANDS HOW SCHOOLS ARE FINANCED, IT HELPS WHEN WE GO OUT AND TALK ABOUT LEVIES AND WHEN WE HAVE TO MAKE REALLY TOUGH DECISIONS ABOUT WHY A TEACHER IS GETTING MOVED FROM HERE TO HERE. AND IT'S NOT ALWAYS THE DECISIONS WE WANT TO MAKE. BUT WE HAVE TO MAKE IT IN ORDER TO CONTINUE TO SERVE CHILDREN AND BE FISCALLY RESPONSIBLE, AND IT'S TOUGH RIGHT NOW.

DEFINITELY SO, AND I'M ALWAYS AMAZED. I'VE HEARD THESE DISCUSSIONS FOR A FEW YEARS NOW, AND EVERY TIME YOU LEARN SOMETHING MORE, I DON'T EVEN WANT TO TOUCH KARA'S SPREADSHEETS AND PERCENTAGES. SO, BUT THANK YOU FOR THE INFORMATION. HOLLY, KUDOS TO YOU AND YOUR TEAM FOR THE AUDIT REPORT. YOU KNOW, THERE WAS NOTHING IN THAT OTHER THAN GOOD NEWS, REALLY. SO APPRECIATE THAT AND APPRECIATE THE COMMENTS THAT WERE MADE ABOUT YOUR TEAM BY THE AUDIT COMMITTEE, JUST AS FAR AS HELPFUL AND THOROUGH AND EVERYTHING ELSE. SO THANK YOU FOR REPRESENTING OUR DISTRICT SO WELL. SO WITH THAT.

BEFORE. IF YOU HAVE NOT FILLED OUT YOUR SURVEY YET, A LITTLE REMINDER. THE 20TH IS THE DEADLINE. SO THEN, OKAY.

SO ONE MORE TIME, I'LL TRY.

THIRD TIME'S A CHARM. SO WITH ALL THAT DONE AND SAID, I'LL CALL THIS MEETING ADJOURNED. THANK YOU.

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.