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[1. CONVENE]

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>> GOOD EVENING. WELCOME TO THE JULY MEETING OF THE FERNDALE SCHOOL BOARD.

WE'RE STARTING JUST A LITTLE BIT LATER THAN NORMAL BECAUSE WE HAD OUR BUDGET SUMMARY PROVIDED DURING OUR PREVIOUS SPECIAL MEETING JUST PRIOR TO THIS.

BUT I WANT TO THANK YOU ALL FOR JOINING US WHETHER YOU'RE LIVE OR ONLINE.

YOU MAY NOTE THAT OUR ATTIRE IS A LITTLE MORE CASUAL THIS EVENING THAN NORMALLY AS WE EMBRACE THE HAWAIIAN THEME FOR OUR JULY MEETING.

YOU MAY ALSO NOTICE THAT NANCY IS IN ABSENCE.

SHE'S ACTUALLY JOINING US VIA ZOOM.

SHE'S EMBRACING THE HAWAIIAN THEME MUCH MORE THAN WE ARE BECAUSE IF YOU LOOK IN THE BACKGROUND OF HER ZOOM SHOT, THERE'S WATER RIPPLING IN THE BACKGROUND, AND WE'RE ALL A LITTLE BIT JEALOUS.

I'M GLAD THAT SHE WAS ABLE TO JOIN US THAT WAY.

THE PURPOSE OF THIS AND EVERY OTHER SCHOOL BOARD MEETING IS TO CONDUCT THE BUSINESS OF THE BOARD.

THAT BUSINESS IS TO FACILITATE THE MISSION OF OUR DISTRICT, WHICH IS TO PREPARE EACH STUDENT TO THRIVE IN AN EVER CHANGING WORLD BY PROVIDING A RIGOROUS EDUCATION THAT FOSTERS ACADEMIC GROWTH, NURTURES CONFIDENCE, AND ENCOURAGES CRITICAL THINKING.

TO FAITHFULLY EXECUTE THAT PURPOSE, THE BOARD NEEDS TO HEAR AND DISCUSS A WIDE ARRAY OF OPINIONS ON EACH ISSUE.

THAT PROCESS IS BEST SERVED WHEN ALL INVOLVED FOCUS ON THE ISSUES RATHER THAN THE PERSONALITIES.

A COUPLE OF QUICK HOUSEKEEPING MATTERS FOR THOSE THAT MAY BE NEW WITH US.

IN THE EVENT OF AN EMERGENCY, THE EXIT TO THIS ROOM IS THE SAME DOORS THAT YOU CAME IN.

IF ANYONE IS NEEDING THE RESTROOMS, THEY'RE OUT THE DOOR AND UP THE RAMP, AS I FEEL LIKE A FLIGHT ATTENDANT MAKING MY MOTIONS.

WITH ALL THAT TAKEN CARE OF, WE'LL GO AHEAD AND START TONIGHT'S MEETING AND I ASK THAT YOU ALL PLEASE JOIN ME AS WE PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG.

OKAY. NEXT WE'LL HAVE THE LAND ACKNOWLEDGMENT.

MARCUS, ARE YOU PREPARED TO READ THAT? COOL.

>> WE, THE FERNDALE SCHOOL DISTRICT, ACKNOWLEDGE WE ARE RESIDING ON THE TRADITIONAL ANCESTRAL AND UNSEATED TERRITORY OF THE LUMMI PEOPLE.

THE LUMMI PEOPLE ARE THE ORIGINAL INHABITANTS OF WASHINGTON'S NORTHERNMOST COAST AND SOUTHERN BRITISH COLUMBIA.

THEY LIVED IN VILLAGES THROUGHOUT THIS TERRITORY AND CONTINUE TO HAVE AN ONGOING RELATIONSHIP WITH THESE AREAS.

SINCE TIME IMMEMORIAL, THEY HAVE CELEBRATED LIFE ON THE WATERWAYS AND ON THE TRADITIONAL ANCESTRAL AND UNSEATED LANDS OF THEIR PEOPLE TO PERPETUATE THEIR WAY OF LIFE.

WE HONOR THEIR ANCESTORS AS WE ACKNOWLEDGE THE PAST, PRESENT AND FUTURE LUMMI PEOPLE AS THE ORIGINAL INHABITANTS OF THIS LAND.

>> THANK YOU. NEXT, WE WILL APPROVE THE MINUTES FROM OUR JUNE MEETING.

[2. APPROVAL OF MINUTES]

ANY COMMENTS ON THOSE MINUTES?

>> I DON'T HAVE COMMENTS ABOUT THE MINUTES SO MUCH AS WHEN WE DO THE EVALUATION AT THE END OF THE THING.

WHAT ARE WE DOING WITH THAT INFORMATION? BECAUSE IT SEEMS TO ME WHEN WE HAVE TO FILL OUT THE ANNUAL EVALUATION, BOARD EVALUATION OF ITS OWN, IT WOULD BE NICE IF WE COULD JUST MAKE THOSE EVALUATIONS MATCH UP WITH THE ITEMS ON THE ONLINE SURVEY THAT WE HAVE TO FILL OUT SO WE COULD JUST TAKE THE RESULTS AND IT WOULD BE A WHOLE LOT EASIER TO FILL OUT THAT SURVEY AT THE END OF THE YEAR IF WE HAD THE CUMULATIVE EVALUATIONS OF OUR MEETINGS, I THINK.

>> THE ONLINE SURVEY, ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT THE WSSDA ONLINE SURVEY? OKAY. I'M SURE THAT WE'VE GOT THOSE.

WE COULD KEEP A CUMULATIVE OR WE COULD ASK KRISTI TO KEEP A RECORD OF THEM.

>> I THINK THE DIFFERENCE MIGHT BE THAT THE WSSDA ONLINE SURVEY IS REALLY ABOUT THE WORK AND THE LEARNING OF THE BOARD, WHEREAS THE MEETING MINUTES AT THE END ARE REALLY ABOUT THE CONDUCTION OF THE MEETING.

IF YOU WANT TO STREAMLINE THE TWO PURPOSES, WE COULD LOOK AT THAT, BUT THEY SERVE TWO DIFFERENT PURPOSES.

MAYBE YOU AND I COULD SIT DOWN, LOOK AT THE TWO OF THEM.

>> OKAY. ANY OTHER COMMENTS REGARDING THE MINUTES? SEEING NONE, THE CHAIR WILL MOVE THAT WE ADOPT THE MINUTES AS PRESENTED.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

>> AYE.

>> AYE.

>> ALL OPPOSED? THE MINUTES ARE THEN ADOPTED.

[3. ADOPTION OF AGENDA [GC-4.7]]

WE WILL THEN GO AHEAD AND ADOPT THE AGENDA FOR TONIGHT'S MEETING.

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ANY COMMENTS IN REGARDS TO THE AGENDA OR ANY ITEMS THAT NEED TO BE. CERTAINLY.

>> I WOULD LIKE TO PULL 9.07 OFF OF THE SUPERINTENDENT CONSENT AGENDA FOR DISCUSSION.

>> OKAY.

ANY OTHER CHANGES? SEEING AND HEARING NONE, THE CHAIR WILL ONCE AGAIN PUT FORTH A MOTION THAT WE ADOPT THE AGENDA AS PRESENTED WITH THE ONE CHANGE OF REMOVING ITEM 9.07 OFF THE CONSENT AGENDA FOR A SEPARATE DISCUSSION.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

>> AYE.

>> ALL OPPOSED? OKAY. THE REVISED AGENDA HAS BEEN ADOPTED.

[4. PUBLIC COMMENT [GC-3.3]]

WITH THAT, WE WILL GO AHEAD AND MOVE ON TO PUBLIC COMMENT.

AS I'VE SAID MANY TIMES, PUBLIC COMMENT IS A TIME WHEN THE BOARD CAN HEAR FROM THE COMMUNITY, WHAT IS ON THEIR MIND AND IMPORTANT TO THEM, PARTICULARLY AS IT RELATES TO WHAT IS HAPPENING WITHIN THE SCHOOL DISTRICT.

WE APPRECIATE RESPECTFUL, CONSTRUCTIVE CRITICISM, AND WELCOME SUGGESTIONS FOR SOLUTIONS.

PUBLIC COMMENT IS NOT A TIME FOR DISCUSSION.

IT IS A TIME FOR THE BOARD TO LISTEN.

BOARD MEMBERS MAY INTERJECT TO ASK CLARIFYING QUESTIONS AND OR MAY DIRECT SOMEONE, MOST OFTEN THE SUPERINTENDENT, TO TAKE FUTURE ACTION RELATED TO THE STATEMENTS, BUT AGAIN, IT IS NOT A TIME FOR DISCUSSION.

OUR SILENCE IS NOT A SIGNAL OF AGREEMENT OR DISAGREEMENT, BUT IS MEANT TO RESPECTFULLY HEAR WHAT YOU HAVE TO SAY.

PUBLIC COMMENT IS NOT THE ONLY WAY TO COMMUNICATE WITH THE BOARD.

THOSE THAT ARE NOT COMFORTABLE SPEAKING IN FRONT OF A GROUP ARE CERTAINLY WELCOME TO CONTACT THE BOARD VIA PHONE OR E-MAIL.

WE ROUTINELY HEAR FROM A NUMBER OF DISTRICT STAKEHOLDERS EACH MONTH AND ASSIMILATE A WIDE RANGE OF INPUT ON DISTRICT ISSUES.

WE APPRECIATE HEARING FROM THE COMMUNITY AND INVITE THEM TO USE WHATEVER MODE OF COMMUNICATION THEY FEEL MOST COMFORTABLE WITH.

FOR THOSE THAT ARE LOOKING FOR OUR CONTACT INFORMATION, IT'S READILY AVAILABLE ON THE DISTRICT WEBSITE.

THOSE WISHING TO SPEAK DURING PUBLIC COMMENT ARE ASKED TO SIGN UP ON THE SIGN UP SHEET IN THE BACK OF THE ROOM, AND EACH SPEAKER WILL BE LIMITED TO THREE MINUTES AND THEIR TIME WILL BEGIN WHEN THEY STEP TO THE PODIUM AND BEGIN TO ADDRESS THE BOARD.

ANY SPEAKER WHOSE COMMENTS EXCEED THE THREE MINUTE LIMIT MAY SUBMIT THEIR ENTIRE REMAINING COMMENTS IN WRITING.

AT THIS POINT, I HAVE MARY ELLIOTT SIGNED UP TO SPEAK.

I APPRECIATE THE BRINGING OF VISUAL AIDS. AWESOME.

>> I'M SHORT. HELLO. MY NAME IS MARY ELLIOTT.

I'M ACTUALLY AN EMPLOYEE OF THE FERNDALE SCHOOL DISTRICT.

I'M EMPLOYED AS AN OCCUPATIONAL THERAPIST AND HAVE ALSO SERVED AS THE ASSISTIVE TECHNOLOGY SPECIALIST.

I'M HERE TO BRAG.

ALSO TO LET EVERYONE KNOW THAT AT THE FERNDALE BLOCK PARTY, THERE WILL BE AN EVENT WHERE WE WILL HAVE STUDENT ARTWORK ON DISPLAY WHERE YOU CAN GO AHEAD AND COME AND SEE THEIR BEAUTIFUL ARTWORK THAT THEY HAVE DONE.

BUT ALSO IT IS AN AUCTION THAT THE FUNDS FROM THAT AUCTION WILL PROVIDE FUNDING TO BUY SPECIALIZED TOOLS, AS WELL AS CONSUMABLES, INCLUDING CANVAS AND PAINT SO THAT WE CAN CONTINUE THIS PROGRAM ON.

WE'VE DONE THIS PROGRAM FOR TWO YEARS NOW.

IT'S CALLED ART FOR ALL.

IT IS AN ADAPTED ART PROGRAM.

IT IS ALLOWING STUDENTS THAT GENERALLY ARE NOT ABLE TO FULLY ENGAGE AND INTERACT IN THE ART EXPERIENCE TO BE ABLE TO ACTUALLY DO THAT.

THEY'RE CHOOSING THEIR OWN COLORS.

THEY'RE USING SPECIALIZED TOOLS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

SOME OF THE STUFF IS SWITCH ACTIVATED IF ALL THEY CAN DO IS GO AHEAD AND HIT A BIG SWITCH.

WE'VE GOTTEN SUPER DUPER CREATIVE.

EACH STUDENT HAS CREATED TWO PIECES OF ARTWORK, ONE OF THEM THEY GOT TO TAKE HOME WITH THEM, AND THE OTHER ONE IS NOW PUT UP FOR AUCTION AND WILL BE ON DISPLAY ON SATURDAY.

THE AUCTION IS ALSO ONLINE IF YOU CAN'T MAKE IT, BUT REALLY THE ARTWORK IS SO MUCH BETTER IN PERSON.

I TRIED TO DO THE BEST PHOTOS THAT I COULD, BUT AT ANY RATE, THIS IN FACT IS ONE OF THE PIECES THAT WILL BE ON AUCTION.

I'M GOING TO DO THE VAN AWAY.

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THIS IS A LARGE PIECE THAT 16 STUDENTS WENT AHEAD AND COLLABORATED ON OVER THE COURSE OF THREE DAYS.

WE USED A VARIETY OF REALLY CREATIVE DIFFERENT PAINTINGS.

SOME OF THEM WERE BUILT UP PAINT BRUSHES FOR THOSE THAT DON'T HAVE GOOD GRASP STRENGTH.

WE ACTUALLY, IN FACT, USED FLY SWATTERS WITH GLITTER, SPRAY BOTTLES, EYE DROPPERS, ALL OF THAT STUFF.

BUT IT'S A FABULOUS PROGRAM.

WE'VE BEEN LUCKY ENOUGH TO BE THE RECIPIENT OF A GRANT FROM ALLIED ARTS OF WHATCOM COUNTY, WHICH IS HOW THE PROGRAM GOT STARTED.

WITH THEIR FUNDS AND THEN ALSO WITH THE FUNDS FROM THE AUCTION, WE CAN CONTINUE ON.

ON SATURDAY AT THE FERNDALE BLOCK PARTY, FROM 12:00 - 6:00, I WILL BE THERE AT THE BOOTH WITH ALL OF THE STUDENTS' ARTWORK ON DISPLAY.

A BUNCH OF THE STUDENTS THEMSELVES WILL BE COMING DOWN TO GO AHEAD AND CHECK IT OUT, SO YOU CAN EVEN COME AND MEET THE ARTIST.

BUT I HIGHLY RECOMMEND THAT YOU COME DOWN AND CHECK IT OUT.

IF YOU FEEL SO INCLINED, YOU'LL EITHER DONATE TO THE PROGRAM OR PICK UP A PIECE OF ARTWORK FOR YOUR HOME.

WE'LL KEEP DOING IT. IT'S AMAZING.

THANK YOU FOR LETTING ME DO IT.

I HAVE FEARLESS LEADERS.

DON CHRISTIANSEN AND JAMES WALSH, NEVER SHY AWAY FROM ALL THE WILD ASS IDEAS I COME UP WITH.

I REALLY APPRECIATE IT. THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU, MARY.

>> BOARD, I'VE SENT YOU THE E-MAIL LINK WITH THE LINK TO THE AUCTION, SO YOU CAN FIND THAT IN YOUR E-MAIL.

>> MARY WAS THE ONLY ONE THAT WAS SIGNED UP TONIGHT FOR A PUBLIC COMMENT.

AGAIN, THIS IS NOT THE ONLY TIME THAT YOU CAN COMMUNICATE WITH THE BOARD.

WE LOVE HEARING FROM YOU.

WE LOVE READING YOUR E-MAILS, HEARING YOUR VOICES ON THE PHONE.

SO FEEL FREE TO REACH OUT TO US IF YOU HAVE THINGS YOU'D LIKE US TO KNOW ABOUT.

[5. SPECIAL PRESENTATIONS]

NEXT ON THE AGENDA FOR TONIGHT IS A PRESENTATION AND A DISCUSSION WITH THE CITY OF FERNDALE IN REGARDS TO CITY GROWTH PLANS, AND SO I'LL INVITE OUR CITY REPRESENTATIVES UP TO JOIN US AT THE TABLE, AND WE'LL GO FROM THERE.

>> GOOD EVENING. I'M MIKE CERBONE.

I'M THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DIRECTOR FOR THE CITY OF FERNDALE.

I'M GOING TO JUST TAKE A MOMENT TO SHARE MY PRESENTATION.

I'LL LET MY CO-WORKER HERE INTRODUCE HIMSELF.

>> THANK YOU. I'M JORI BURNETTE, CITY ADMINISTRATOR FOR THE CITY OF FERNDALE.

WE DON'T PROVIDE OUR GUEST SNACKS. THANK YOU.

>> TRYING TO MODEL HERE. [LAUGHTER]

>> I DON'T KNOW WHAT WE WOULD PROVIDE.

FERNDALE WATER, MAYBE. [LAUGHTER] OH, BOY.

NO. ONE THING I THINK BEFORE WE START.

>> MICROPHONE, PLEASE.

>> THE CITY OF FERNDALE DID JUST RECENTLY TRANSITION FROM OUR EXISTING WATER TO NEW COMPLETE REVERSE OSMOSIS WATER.

THAT'S GOING TO TAKE SEVERAL MONTHS FOR IT TO GET THROUGH THE SYSTEM, WHICH IS ENOUGH TIME WHERE YOU'RE NOT GOING TO NECESSARILY NOTICE A DIFFERENCE, BUT IT WILL BE COMPLETELY NEW TREATED WATER.

HOPEFULLY, IT WILL BE AN IMPROVEMENT AND I THINK THAT BETWEEN CITY HALL AND MY HOME IN FERNDALE, I'VE STARTED TO NOTICE A DIFFERENCE AND IT IS BETTER.

>> GREAT. WE'LL GO AHEAD AND GET STARTED.

CHAIR, I'LL LET YOU DECIDE WHEN AND HOW YOU WANT TO INTERRUPT US, IF NEED BE.

AGAIN, MIKE CERBONE, I'M THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DIRECTOR FOR THE CITY OF FERNDALE.

TONIGHT, WE'RE GOING TO TALK WITH YOU A LITTLE BIT ABOUT, THANK YOU SO MUCH, OUR COMPREHENSIVE UPDATE TO OUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND OUR DEVELOPMENT CODE.

WE'RE HOPING THIS EVENING YOU'LL TAKE SOME KEY TAKEAWAYS THAT I ACTUALLY PUT IN BULLET POINTS, SO IT'LL BE EASIER FOR YOU TO PHYSICALLY TAKE THEM AWAY.

WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, OUR DEVELOPMENT CODE, HOW THOSE WORK TOGETHER.

WHAT AN URBAN GROWTH AREA IS.

WE'RE GOING TO DO AN OVERVIEW OF OUR UPDATE, HIT ON SOME OF THE KEY AREAS, THE THINGS THAT WE HAVE TO DO, STATE MANDATED.

WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT POPULATION AND EMPLOYMENT PROJECTIONS.

WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT PLANNING FOR AND ACCOMMODATING HOUSING, AND WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT WHERE WE'RE LIKELY TO SEE CHANGES IN HOUSING WITHIN THE COMMUNITY.

THEN WE'LL ALSO TALK ABOUT ANNEXATION BECAUSE THAT'S PART OF THE OVERALL PROCESS AS WELL. KEY TAKEAWAYS.

THE CITY IS PLANNING FOR AN ADDITIONAL 10,961 PEOPLE, 03,337 NEW JOBS OVER THE NEXT 20 YEARS.

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THAT'S BETWEEN 2025 AND 2045.

THROUGH THE CONFERENCE OF PLAN, THE CITY NEEDS TO ACCOMMODATE THIS GROWTH.

THE CONFERENCE OF PLAN NEEDS TO BE COORDINATED, SO ALL THE DIFFERENT ASPECTS AND COMPONENTS OF IT NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE CAN MEET THIS.

DO WE HAVE ENOUGH WATER? ARE THE ROADS BIG ENOUGH? WHAT IMPROVEMENTS DO WE NEED TO MAKE AS WE GROW OVER THE NEXT 20 YEARS? RESIDENTIAL GROWTH WILL BE ACCOMMODATED WITHIN OUR EXISTING URBAN GROWTH AREA.

WE'RE NOT PROPOSING TO GROW BIGGER TO ADD MORE LAND FOR RESIDENTIAL.

BUT WE ARE PROPOSING TO ADD SOME ADDITIONAL LAND FOR OUR EMPLOYMENT NEEDS.

THE CITY MUST IMPLEMENT STATE AND FEDERAL LAWS, SIMILAR TO YOU GUYS, WE CAN BE MORE STRINGENT, BUT WE CAN'T BE LESS.

WE HAVE TO DO THE THINGS THAT THE ENTITIES ABOVE US ARE TELLING US TO DO, AND MANY OF THE THINGS WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT THIS EVENING ARE THINGS THAT WE'RE MANDATED TO DO.

>> ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I THINK IS INTERESTING IS 10,961 NEW PEOPLE.

THAT'S A BIG NUMBER.

IF YOU DO LOOK AT THE GROWTH MANAGEMENT ACT ERA DATING BACK TO THE EARLY 1990S, US GROWN BY ABOUT 11,000 PEOPLE OVER THE NEXT 20 YEARS IS ABOUT HOW MUCH WE'VE GROWN OVER THE LAST 20 YEARS OR SO.

WE'RE NOT REALLY LOOKING AT SO MUCH OF A TREMENDOUS UPTICK.

IT'S COMING MORE LIKE WHAT HAS BEEN COMING OVER THE LAST 30 YEARS IS EXPECTED TO CONTINUE TO COME.

I THINK THAT THAT'S SOMETHING THE COMMUNITY SOMETIMES DOES LOSE SIGHT OF THINKING.

THIS IS NEW. IT'S MORE OF A CONTINUATION.

>> WITHIN THAT PROJECTION, DO YOU HAVE DEMOGRAPHICS AS FAR AS AGE BANDS THAT WE'RE EXPECTING TO SEE AS WELL?

>> WE DO. WE HAVE A WHOLE REPORT THAT I CAN SHARE WITH YOU.

BE MORE THAN HAPPY TO SENT THIS TO THE BOARD AND SHARE IT WITH MARK AND TAMMY.

THE OTHER THING IT'S IMPORTANT TO NOTE IS JUST BECAUSE WE'RE PLANNING FOR THE GROWTH, WE'RE NOT TURNING A VALVE AND MAKING THE GROWTH HAPPEN.

YOU CAN'T JUST TURN IT OR SHUT IT OFF.

WE'RE PLANNING FOR WHAT WE THINK IS LIKELY TO OCCUR.

WHATEVER HAPPENS OVER THE NEXT 20 YEARS MAY IMPACT THAT.

I DON'T THINK ANYBODY PLANNED FOR THE PANDEMIC, BUT IT HAPPENED.

WE PLAN, WE'RE GUESSING, WE'RE PROJECTING, BUT IT'S NOT 100% ACCURATE AND IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT WE'RE WILLING TO OCCUR.

LET'S GET THIS BACK ON.

WHY ARE WE UPDATING OUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN? IT'S A STATE MANDATED PROCESS.

THE STATE SAYS, EVERY 10 YEARS, YOU CITY OF FERNDALE, WHATCOM COUNTY, AND ALL THE OTHER CITIES WITHIN WHATCOM COUNTY, YOU'RE GOING TO UPDATE YOUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND YOU'RE GOING TO UPDATE YOUR DEVELOPMENT CODE.

THAT'S WHAT WE'RE DOING. ONE OF THE REASONS THEY DO THAT IS BECAUSE THE STATE PASSES NEW LAWS EVERY YEAR.

THEN WE HAVE TO IMPLEMENT THOSE NEW LAWS.

I'LL TELL YOU FERNDALE IS PRETTY GOOD ABOUT IMPLEMENTING THEM AS THEY OCCUR OVER THAT PERIOD.

BUT SOMETIMES WE CAN'T KEEP UP WITH ALL THOSE THINGS.

DURING THIS PERIODIC UPDATE IS WHEN WE UPDATE THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND THE DEVELOPMENT CODE.

WE'RE GOING TO REVIEW THE URBAN GROWTH AREA AND ENSURE THE 20 YEAR SUPPLY OF LAND.

WE'RE GOING TO TALK MORE ABOUT WHAT THE URBAN GROWTH AREA IS, BUT IT'S AN ESSENTIAL COMPONENT OF LAND USE PLANNING IN THE STATE OF WASHINGTON, IS MAKING SURE WE HAVE LAND TO GROW INTO.

THEN IT ALSO PROVIDES THE OPPORTUNITY FOR THE COMMUNITY TO REVISIT THE VISION FOR THE FUTURE OF THE COMMUNITY.

IT'S ARTICULATED IN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.

WHAT IS A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN? IT'S AN ORGANIC DOCUMENT FOR THE CITY.

IT'S OUR CENTERPIECE OF LOCAL PLANNING EFFORTS.

IT ESTABLISHES A 20 PLUS YEAR VISION FOR THE COMMUNITY.

IT COORDINATES OUR INFRASTRUCTURE SERVICES NEEDED FOR GROWTH OF THE COMMUNITY, AGAIN, WATER, SEWER, ALL THOSE FUN THINGS.

IT ESTABLISHES GOALS AND POLICIES THAT GUIDE OUR DAY-TO-DAY DECISION.

OF OUR ELECTED OFFICIALS AND STAFF, OUR DEVELOPMENT CODE IMPLEMENTS OUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.

WHENEVER WE CHANGE ZONES, MAKE HIGHLY DISCRETIONARY DECISIONS, THE VISION ARTICULATED IN THAT COMPREHENSIVE PLAN IS WHAT WE USE AS CRITERIA FOR WHEN WE EVALUATE THOSE.

THEN VERY SPECIFIC THINGS LIKE CONDITIONAL USE PERMITS, AND AGAIN, HIGHLY DISCRETIONARY DECISIONS.

WE'RE GOING TO USE THOSE GOALS AND POLICIES IN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN TO HELP US MAKE THOSE DECISIONS.

SOME CONTEXT. WE'VE GOT THE TOP DOWN AS IT WERE, WITHIN THE GOVERNMENT STRUCTURE HERE.

AGAIN, WE HAVE TO FOLLOW THE US CONSTITUTION.

WE CAN'T VIOLATE PEOPLE'S RIGHTS.

WE HAVE TO IMPLEMENT ALL THE CFRS, CODE OF FEDERAL REGULATIONS.

WE HAVE TO IMPLEMENT THE STATE CONSTITUTION.

WE HAVE TO IMPLEMENT THE STATE ENVIRONMENTAL POLICY ACT, THE GROWTH MANAGEMENT ACT, THE SHORELINE MANAGEMENT ACT, THOSE ARE OUR THREE PRIMARY ACTS THAT WE DEAL WITH IN THE STATE OF WASHINGTON.

THEN THE WHATCOM COUNTY COMPREHENSIVE PLAN COVERS US AS WELL.

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WE'RE COORDINATED UNDER THE WHATCOM COUNTY COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.

IN FACT, A LOT OF THE DECISIONS THAT AFFECT HOW AND WHERE WE GROW ARE ACTUALLY DECISIONS THAT COUNTY MAKES.

IN TERMS OF THE POPULATION PROJECTION, IF AND WHEN WE'RE ALLOWED TO EXPAND THE URBAN GROWTH AREA, THOSE ARE DECISIONS THAT ARE ACTUALLY MADE AT THE COUNTY LEVEL.

I GOT YOU THERE IN A DIFFERENT COLOR JUST TO MAKE SURE YOU SAW YOURSELVES, BUT THE FERNDALE SCHOOL DISTRICT CAPITAL PLAN IS ALSO PART OF THIS.

YOU'LL NOTICE IT'S IN BETWEEN THE COUNTY COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND OUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN BECAUSE IT'S A COMPONENT OF BOTH.

THEN WE HAVE OUR MUNICIPAL CODE, WHICH IMPLEMENTS A LOT OF WHAT WE DO ON THE DAY TO DAY.

I'M NOT GOING TO READ ALL THESE.

BUT THIS IS HOW OUR COMP PLANS ORGANIZED. WE HAVE EIGHT.

EACH CHAPTER DEALS WITH A VERY SPECIFIC TOPIC.

THE INTRO OBVIOUSLY IS PRETTY STRAIGHTFORWARD.

IT INTRODUCES AND SUMMARIZES.

LAND USE DEALS WITH THE TYPE OF ZONING WE HAVE, THE TYPES OF USES WE HAVE IN THE COMMUNITY.

HOUSING OBVIOUSLY DEALS WITH HOUSING.

ALL OF THESE DIFFERENT ELEMENTS ARE COMPRISED OF AN INVENTORY.

WE START WITH UNDERSTANDING WHERE WE ARE, AND WHERE WE CAME FROM, AND THEN ANALYSIS OF WHERE WE THINK WE'RE GOING TO GO AND HOW WE'RE GOING TO ACCOMMODATE.

WE HAVE TRANSPORTATION UTILITIES, CAPITAL FACILITIES, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, AND CLIMATE, WHICH I'LL TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT LATER IS A NEW CHAPTER MANDATED BY THE STATE THAT WE ADDRESSED DURING THIS PROCESS.

THEN ON THE RIGHT HAND SIDE, YOU HAVE A LIST OF WHAT I WOULD CALL ANCILLARY DOCUMENTS, BUT THEY'RE ALSO PART OF OUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.

WE ADOPT THOSE IN SUPPORT OF THE WORK WE DO, AND AGAIN, YOU'LL SEE YOURSELF UP THERE, RIGHT NEXT TO THE FERNDALE DISTRICT.

>> I THINK ONE WAY TO LOOK AT THIS PLANNING PROCESS IS SOMETHING THAT THE SCHOOL DISTRICT CAN LOOK AT TOO, AND THAT IS WE TAKE WHERE WE ARE RIGHT NOW IN 2025, AND THEN WE SAY, WHAT WILL GROWTH MEAN TO US? HOW WILL GROWTH IMPACT THE EXISTING CONDITION? IF THOSE IMPACTS ARE NEGATIVE, WE SAY, WHAT DO WE NEED TO DO TO MITIGATE IT, TO GET BACK TO OUR VISION? MAYBE RIGHT NOW WE'RE NOT IN THE MOST PERFECT PLACE.

MAYBE WE ARE. THAT GOES BACK TO THE VISION.

WE SAY, GROWTH IS IMPACTING US.

WE'VE ALWAYS BELIEVED, I THINK, MIKE AND I, GROWTH CAN MAKE US BETTER IF IT'S PROPERLY MITIGATED.

IF WE DON'T PROPERLY MITIGATE IT, GROWTH CAN BE A NEGATIVE.

IT CAN BE SOMETHING THAT WE'RE WORRIED ABOUT, ESPECIALLY IF WE HAVEN'T IDENTIFIED IT.

BUT ONE OF THE GOALS IS TO SAY, HOW DO WE TAKE THIS IMPACT COMING IN AND MAKE IT A POSITIVE IMPACT? THAT'S PART OF THE COMMUNITY RESPONSE IS, WHAT ARE WE SCARED OF? WHAT ARE WE NERVOUS ABOUT? CAN WE BRING IT INTO THE LIGHT AND THEN SAY, GOSH, NOW THAT WE KNOW WHAT GROWTH LOOKS LIKE, IT'S NOT SO BAD IF IT GOES HERE, HERE, ACTS LIKE THIS.

>> CAN YOU ELABORATE A LITTLE BIT ON SOMETHING THAT WE'RE FAMILIAR WITH AS FAR AS, HOW DOES THE FERNDALE SCHOOL DISTRICT CAPITAL FACILITIES PLAN INCORPORATE INTO THIS AS PART OF THAT CHAPTER? HOW DO YOU GET INPUT FROM THE SCHOOLS AS TO WHAT THE NEEDS AND HOW WE COORDINATE TOGETHER?

>> PART OF THE GOAL OF THE GMA IS, IT REQUIRES US TO COORDINATE.

IT REQUIRES US TO SIT DOWN AND TALK ABOUT THE GROWTH IN THE COMMUNITY.

THE FERNDALE SCHOOL DISTRICT CAPITAL FACILITY PLAN IS SOMETHING THAT WE NEED TO DO.

WE NEED TO DEMONSTRATE AS PART OF THE GROWTH MANAGEMENT ACT TO THE STATE OF WASHINGTON THAT WE'VE THOUGHT ABOUT NOT JUST FLUSHING YOUR TOILET OR DRINKING YOUR WATER, BUT HOW YOUR CHILDREN WILL BE EDUCATED OR HOW FIRE MIGHT GET PUT OUT.

IN TERMS OF DISTRICTS THAT WE COORDINATE WITH, THE SCHOOL DISTRICT AND THE FIRE DISTRICT ARE TWO THE MOST IMPORTANT IN TERMS OF PROVIDING SERVICES TO THE COMMUNITY.

ANOTHER WAY THAT WE INTERACT WITH YOUR CAPITAL FACILITIES PLAN IS WE TALKED A LITTLE BIT AS PART OF THE BUDGET PROCESS EARLIER, IMPACT FEES.

AN IMPACT FEE IS A ONE TIME FEE THAT'S ASSESSED FOR YOU GUYS ON RESIDENTIAL GROWTH.

IT'S ON NEW HOMES, WITHIN THE COMMUNITY NEW APARTMENTS, THINGS OF THAT MATTER, AND THAT'S INTENDED TO OFFSET THE IMPACT OF GROWTH WITHIN THE COMMUNITY.

YOU CAN USE THAT IMPACT FEE TO PAY FOR FUTURE CAPITAL FACILITIES THAT ARE GROWTH RELATED, AND SO WE COLLECT THAT FEE FOR YOU.

THAT'S IN OUR CODE THAT WE ACTUALLY MANDATE THAT THAT FEE GETS PAID AS PART OF THE DEVELOPMENT REVIEW PROCESS.

AS YOU LOOK AT YOUR CAPITAL FACILITIES PLAN AND YOU LOOK TO UPDATE YOUR CAPITAL FACILITIES PLAN, THAT CAPITAL FACILITIES PLAN INFORMS WHAT YOUR IMPACT FEE IS.

IT IDENTIFIES ALL OF THE IMPROVEMENTS YOU NEED TO BE MADE.

THERE WOULD BE SOME DECISIONS MADE ABOUT WHAT PORTION OF THAT COULD BE ATTRIBUTED TO NEW GROWTH, AND THEN THAT WOULD BE DIVIDED INTO THE POTENTIAL GROWTH WITHIN THE COMMUNITY OVER THAT 20 YEAR PERIOD OR EIGHT YEAR PERIOD,

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HOWEVER YOU CHOOSE TO MANAGE IT.

THEN THAT IS, IN FACT, YOUR IMPACT FEE THAT'S COLLECTED AS WE REVIEW NEW DEVELOPMENT WITHIN THE COMMUNITY.

>> I THINK IN ADDITION TO THAT, AND I'VE NOTICED THAT MIKE AND I USE PRETTY MUCH THE SAME HAND SIGNALS TO MEAN DIFFERENT THINGS.

[LAUGHTER] WE'RE BOTH PLANNERS OR RECOVERING PLANNERS.

THE GROWTH MANAGEMENT ACT, ONE OF THE MAIN CONCEPTS IS WHILE THERE ARE 10 YEAR UPDATES, IT'S NOT SUPPOSED TO BE A REVOLUTIONARY UPDATE.

IT'S SUPPOSED TO CONTINUE THE PLAN AND HAVE INCREMENTAL CHANGES.

ONE OF THE WAYS THAT WE CAN SEE THE GROWTH MANAGEMENT ACT NOT WORKING IS SOMETHING THAT HAPPENED ABOUT 15 YEARS AGO.

THE CITY'S URBAN GROWTH AREA UNTIL ABOUT 2010 STRETCHED TO THE WEST FURTHER OVER TO OLSON.

THAT'S WHERE WE EXPECTED MOST OF OUR GROWTH TO OCCUR.

THE SCHOOL DISTRICT DID WHAT THE SCHOOL DISTRICT SHOULD HAVE DONE, WHICH WAS TO SAY, THE CENTER OF POPULATION, AND THEREFORE, THE STUDENTS AND THE WALKABLE BASE FOR THESE STUDENTS IS GOING TO BE MOVING WESTWARD.

THAT'S WHY WE SAW CASCADIA, HORIZON AND EAGLERIDGE BUILT BECAUSE THAT'S WHERE THE POPULATION WAS GOING TO GO.

ONE OF THE WAYS THAT THE GMA DOESN'T WORK WELL IS LAWSUITS CAN RUIN THINGS.

THERE WAS A LAWSUIT, NOT TARGETED AT FERNDALE, BUT ACTUALLY TARGETED AT BLAINE AND WHATCOM COUNTY THAT WE GOT PULLED INTO THAT RESULTED IN THE URBAN GROWTH AREA BEING SIGNIFICANTLY REDUCED BY ABOUT A THIRD, WHICH CLOSED OFF REMOVED THE UGA TO THE WEST OF THOSE SCHOOLS.

YOU KNOW BETTER THAN WE DO WHAT THAT'S MEANT IN TERMS OF NEEDING TO BUS KIDS FROM THIS AREA TO ANOTHER AREA.

WE'RE DOING A LOT BETTER NOW AS FAR AS PLANNING, WHERE TAKEN OBJECTIVELY, WE WERE PLANNING FOR A MUCH LARGER CITY THAN WHAT WOULD HAVE HAPPENED BACK IN 2010, AND THAT'S WHY THAT LAWSUIT GOT LOST.

BUT I THINK THAT AS PART OF WHERE THE CAPITAL PLANS CAN FIT IN IS IF THE CITY IN CONSULTATION WITH THE SCHOOL DISTRICT SAYS, WE THINK THAT THERE'S GOING TO BE A LOT OF GROWTH ON PORTAL WAY, LET'S SAY, OR A LOT OF GROWTH IN THIS AREA.

WE CAN START TALKING ABOUT WHERE THOSE SCHOOL BOUNDARIES ARE GOING TO BE AND PLAN IN TANDEM.

SOME OF THE THINGS MIGHT REPRESENT SOME CHALLENGES THAT NEED TO BE MITIGATED.

WE'RE NOT GOING TO SOLVE EVERYTHING.

BUT IT IS HOLDING THE COURSE ON A PLAN, AND THAT HASN'T HAPPENED UNTIL REALLY THE LAST 15 YEARS, I WOULD SAY, WHERE WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO HOLD THAT COURSE AND REALLY TAKE PLANNING SERIOUSLY AS A CITY.

>> I THINK WHAT'S HAPPENED IN FERNDALE OVER THE LAST 15 YEARS, IF YOU LOOK AT IT, INSTEAD OF GOING OUT, THERE'S BEEN MORE GOING UP.

WE'VE ESTABLISHED MINIMUM DENSITIES TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE GETTING GOOD DENSITIES WITHIN THE COMMUNITY.

THAT ALLOWS MORE STUDENTS TO WALK TO SCHOOL.

I THINK AS WE GO THROUGH SOME OF THE UPDATES THAT WE'RE ACTUALLY REQUIRED TO MAKE THIS YEAR, YOU'LL SEE THEY DETAIL NICELY WHAT I THINK YOU AS A BOARD AND YOUR STAFF WOULD WANT TO SEE. KEEP ON GOING?

>> I HAVE A QUICK QUESTION. I'M NOT VERY FAMILIAR WITH THIS, BUT THIS IS WHY I'M ASKING IT.

HOW IS THIS COLLABORATION COORDINATION BETWEEN THE SCHOOL DISTRICT AND THE CITY HAPPENING? DOES IT HAPPEN HOW OFTEN, AND I UNDERSTAND THAT PROPER BUDGETING IS MORE EFFICIENT WHEN WE HAVE GOOD PROJECTIONS AND GOOD UNDERSTANDING.

HOW DOES THIS HAPPEN? HOW OFTEN IS THAT INITIATED BY THE CITY? ARE WE INVOLVED AT ALL?

>> WE DID REACH OUT.

I WANT TO SAY TOWARDS MAYBE THE END OF 2023, BEGINNING OF 2024.

WE DID INITIALLY MEET WITH MARK AND HOLLY, AND I THINK TAMMY WAS THERE TOO, JUST TO SAY, THIS IS THE PROCESS THAT WE'RE GOING TO ENTER INTO.

THIS IS THE GROWTH THAT WE'RE PROJECTING, WE SEE HAPPENING.

WE TOUCH BASE THEN, WE PERIODICALLY REACH OUT TO SEE HOW WE CAN HELP.

I THINK THERE'S CERTAINLY MORE SPACE FOR MARKET AND TO CHAT MORE, BUT WE'RE HERE TO HELP.

YOU GUYS, BUT WE ALSO NEED TO WORK WITH YOU GUYS IN TERMS OF PLANNING FOR OUR FUTURE GROWTH.

THEN THE POPULATION PROJECTIONS, WE CAN GO INTO THAT IN A LOT MORE DETAIL, BUT IN GENERAL, IF YOU GO BACK AND LOOK, THE COUNTY HAS BEEN PRETTY CLOSE TO WHAT WE WOULD CALL THE OFM MEDIUM POPULATION PROJECTION.

OVERALL AS A COUNTY.

THAT'S BEEN RELIABLE FOR US WHEN WE LOOK BACK OVER THE LAST 20 YEARS.

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AS THE CITY, WE TEND TO GROW HIGHER THAN THAT.

YOU CAN IMAGINE SOME OF THE CITIES WITHIN THE COUNTY HAVE NOT GROWN AS QUICKLY AS THAT MEDIUM POPULATION GROWTH PROJECTION, AND SOME OF THEM HAVE GROWN QUICKER.

OURSELVES, LINDEN IS ANOTHER ONE THAT WOULD FALL ON THAT.

THE MOST RECENT ANALYSIS I SAW THE OTHER DAY AT THE COUNTY WAS BELLINGHAM MAYBE WASN'T HITTING THAT PERFECT MEDIUM NOR WAS BLAINE.

THEN THE SMALL CITIES UP RIVER TEND TO BE SIMILAR TO FERNDALE IN AND AROUND THAT.

I BELIEVE NOOKSACK ACTUALLY HAD PRETTY GOOD GROWTH RATE.

>> THEY'RE STARTING OBVIOUSLY AT A SMALLER POPULATION, SO IT'S EASY FOR 10% GROWTH AND THEY HAD FIVE PEOPLE COME IN.

>> WE'RE THE SECOND LARGEST CITY IN WHATCOM COUNTY AND THEN YOUR SCHOOL DISTRICT IS PRETTY GOOD SIZE.

YOU SERVE NOT ONLY THE CITY OF FERNDALE, BUT YOU SERVE SURROUNDING AREAS, TOO.

IT'S A PRETTY GOOD SCHOOL DISTRICT, SAME WITH OUR FIRE DISTRICT, PRETTY GOOD SIZE FIRE DISTRICT AS WELL.

>> BEFORE YOU CONTINUE, I WOULD SAY THAT AS FAR AS INTERACTION, I THINK THAT THE DIRECT INTERACTION ON THESE GROWTH-RELATED THINGS IS DEFINITELY OCCURRING MORE OFTEN THAN IT WAS MAYBE IN THE PAST.

I WOULD SAY THOUGH THAT INTERACTION BETWEEN THE SCHOOL DISTRICT AND THE CITY NEARLY ON A DAILY BASIS.

THERE'S SOME COMMUNICATION ON SOMETHING.

I THINK THAT THAT'S PROBABLY MORE IMPORTANT AS IT RELATES TO PLANNING, WHERE IT'S NOT JUST, HEY, LET'S TALK ABOUT PLANNING NUMBERS, BUT IT'S TALKING ABOUT HOW DID YOUR DAY TO DAY GO.

ON ALL THESE DIFFERENT SUBJECTS.

I THINK THAT WE HAVE A MUCH BETTER UNDERSTANDING OF THE TWO ORGANIZATIONS THAN WE DID UP UNTIL THREE OR FOUR YEARS AGO.

MUCH CREDIT TO YOUR STAFF, ACTUALLY FOR INITIATING SOME OF THESE, WE SHALL MEET EVERY TWO WEEKS, COUPLE OF HOURS. [LAUGHTER]

>> THAT'S HOW I WAS GOING TO SAY WE RECENTLY STARTED A REGULAR CADENCE OF MEETINGS JUST TO DISCUSS THE OVERLAP AND THE GOINGS-ON BETWEEN WHAT'S HAPPENING AT THE CITY, WHAT'S HAPPENING AT THE SCHOOL DISTRICT AND WHERE THEY INTERSECT AND HOW WE CAN HELP EACH OTHER AND WHERE WE IMPACT EACH OTHER'S LIVES.

I THINK PERFECT EXAMPLE, AND IT'S A LITTLE OFF TOPIC IS THE SEWER ISSUE AT THE ROUNDABOUT THAT GOT IDENTIFIED AND THE CITY WAS ABLE TO VERY QUICKLY NAVIGATE SCHEDULE CHANGE THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN INCREDIBLY DISRUPTIVE TO OUR OPERATION ONCE SCHOOL STARTED.

IF WE HADN'T HAD THAT CONVERSATION, THAT PROBABLY WOULDN'T HAVE BEEN SOMETHING WE WERE ABLE TO DO.

THAT'S BEEN REALLY GOOD.

I THINK OUR LAST MEETING A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO, MICHAEL AND HIS STAFF CAME AND REALLY LAID A LOT OF INFORMATION OUT FOR US TO BE ABLE TO STREAMLINE OUR REVISION OF THE DISTRICT, THE CAPITAL FACILITY PLAN.

WE'RE FEELING VERY GOOD ABOUT HAVING A DRAFT UPDATE TO THE DISTRICT'S PLAN PRETTY SHORTLY FOR THE SUPERINTENDENT AND THE BOARD TO REVIEW.

>> IT IS THE THORNTON VISTA DRIVE INTERCHANGE ON ANYBODY'S DOCKET FOR TRAFFIC FLOW?

>> YOUR STAFF HAVE BEEN VERY VOCAL ABOUT THAT [OVERLAPPING]

>> ANYONE WHO HAS DRIVEN THROUGH THERE WHEN SCHOOLS COME IN AND GOING [INAUDIBLE]

>> IT ACTUALLY WAS IDENTIFIED AS ONE OF THE INTERSECTIONS THAT WOULD LIKELY BE IMPACTED DURING THE 20-YEAR GROWTH SCENARIO.

ONCE WE GET THE DRAFT ZONING INTO THE BLACK BOX AND GIVE IT TO OUR TRAFFIC ENGINEERS, THEN THEY CAN BETTER UNDERSTAND WHAT MITIGATION MAY NEED TO BE THERE, BUT THAT WAS ONE OF THE INTERSECTIONS WHEN WE DID OUR BASELINE MODELING THAT WAS IDENTIFIED.

>> WELL, AND IN FACT, I WANT TO GET MIKE BACK TO THE PRESENTATION.

BUT IN THESE TIMES OF FISCAL HARDSHIP FOR ALL OF US, SCHOOL DISTRICT HAS ACCESS TO FUNDS THAT WE DON'T AND VICE VERSA.

EARLIER TODAY, WE SIGNED A CONTRACT WITH THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT FOR A SAFE STREETS FOR ALL GRANT, WHICH IS GOING TO PAY FOR A STUDY FOR SAFE STREETS FOR ALL, NOT JUST AUTOMOBILE.

VISTA IN THORNTON IS AN EXCELLENT EXAMPLE OF AN INTERSECTION WHERE IF YOU ARE A MOTORIST, IT WORKS GREAT, AND MAYBE THAT COULD BE DEBATED.

LET'S SAY IT DOES.

I TYPICALLY GO SOUTH.

I LIVE SOUTH ON VISTA.

ASSUMING THAT IT WORKED BETTER FOR A MOTORIST THAN A PEDESTRIAN, THIS STUDY IS GOING TO HELP TO BRING OUT WHERE WE HAVE LEVELS OF SERVICE.

I'M SURE THAT THE SCHOOL DISTRICT HAS DIFFERENT LEVELS OF SERVICE,

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KPIS, METRICS, WHATEVER YOU WANT TO CALL THEM FOR SUCCESS.

OUR METRICS HISTORICALLY HAVE BEEN BASED ON THE AUTOMOBILE, BECAUSE IN FERNDALE, WE'RE AN AUTOMOBILE-CENTRIC TOWN OR HAVE BEEN FOR QUITE SOME TIME AS A BEDROOM COMMUNITY TO EITHER BELLINGHAM OR CHERRY POINT.

WE'RE WANTING TO LOOK AT NON-MOTORISTS, AND SO THAT INCLUDES OBVIOUSLY KIDS, STUDENTS WHO ARE BIKING OR WALKING.

THE SAFE STREETS FOR ALL IS GOING TO ALLOW US TO GO BEYOND OUR TYPICAL KPI OR LEVEL SERVICE, AND TO LOOK AT SOME OF THOSE INTERSECTIONS, THAT MIGHT NOT SHOW UP AS AN ISSUE IN THE STANDARD MEASUREMENT, BUT MIGHT SHOW UP AS AN ISSUE FOR OTHERS.

AT THE SAME TIME, IT GETS US IN THE DOOR FOR SOME FEDERAL FUNDS POTENTIALLY WHERE WE CAN TALK ABOUT SAFE ROUTES TO SCHOOL AND OTHER PROGRAMS WHERE THERE MIGHT BE ACCESS TO ADDITIONAL FUNDING.

WE'RE TRYING TO BE MORE CREATIVE BEYOND OUR TRADITIONAL MEASUREMENTS.

>> IN FACT, IT IS STATE-MANDATED, SO YOU MIGHT HEAR US THROW AROUND THE TERM MULTIMODAL PLANNING.

THAT IS ACTUALLY ONE OF THE NEW STATE LAWS THAT WE'RE WORKING TO IMPLEMENT.

MULTIMODAL PLANNING WOULD BE LOOKING AT BIKES, PEDS, TRANSIT, DIFFERENT WAYS FOR PEOPLE TO GET TO AND FROM THEIR DESTINATION WITHOUT A SINGLE OCCUPANCY VEHICLE.

>> ONE THING THAT I THINK, AND JORI AND I HAVE TALKED ABOUT THIS, IS THAT WE ONLY HAVE THE SCHOOLS THAT WE HAVE.

THEY ARE QUITE FULL, AS YOU KNOW, AND TALKING ABOUT SHARING THAT ENROLLMENT DATA.

BUT THE OTHER PART TOO IS JUST IF WE WERE TO CHANGE SCHOOL BOUNDARIES, FOR EXAMPLE, THAT'S NOT SOMETHING WE CAN JUST DO.

THAT IS A TWO-YEAR PROCESS.

YOU SPEND ONE YEAR STUDYING AND THEN A PILOT AND ALL OF THAT.

THEN JUST THE FUNDING WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT, YOU BROUGHT THE FUNDING UP.

WE CANNOT APPLY FOR A GRANT PER SE TO GET A NEW SCHOOL BUILT.

THAT GOES OUT TO THE VOTERS.

AS THE CITY GROWS, THERE IS A SIDE OF THIS THAT IS COMPLEX FOR US AS A TEAM TO DECIDE ON WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO.

JAMIE IS GOING TO TALK ABOUT THIS A LITTLE BIT.

JUST TO MAINTAIN OUR CURRENT BUILDINGS, YOU'VE BEEN LOOKING AT THE PRICE TAG YEARLY FOR THAT, MORE STUDENTS IN IT, MORE WEAR ON IT.

WE'RE ALSO TRYING TO UNDERSTAND, JORI >SAID THIS VERY NICELY EARLIER.

WE'RE TRYING TO UNDERSTAND WHAT THEY'RE ABLE TO DO, WHAT WE'RE ABLE TO DO.

THAT'S PART OF IT, IS LEARNING TOGETHER AND SEEING HOW WE CAN PARTNER ON SOME OF THIS.

BECAUSE AS YOU KNOW, WE'VE APPLIED FOR TWO GRANTS JUST TO GET BOILERS AND HAVE BEEN TURNED DOWN BOTH TIMES.

AS THE STATES DECREASING THEIR FUNDING TO SCHOOL DISTRICTS, WE'RE JUST HAVING TO TRY TO FOCUS ON THE BASICS.

IT DOES POSE A BIT OF A CHALLENGE THAT THE CITY HAS BEEN VERY WILLING TO LISTEN TO AND IT'S INFORMATION THAT WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY HAVE IN THEIR HANDS AS WELL.

>> THE LAST THING THAT I'LL SAY FOR NOW IS THE LACK OF LOCAL DATA AND THE LACK OF OUR ABILITY TO TELL OUR STORY, WE'RE SEEING NOT ONLY PUTS US NOT AT A DEFICIT, BUT CAN PUT US AT A DISTINCT ADVANTAGE BECAUSE BOTH THE STATE AND THE FEDS TEND TO AGGREGATE THEIR DATA UP INTO THE COUNTY LEVEL OR EVEN THE STATE LEVEL.

WE'RE REPORTING ON THOSE LEVELS.

BUT THE MORE THAT WE CAN TALK ABOUT AT FERNDALE LEVEL AND TALK ABOUT OUR OWN CIRCUMSTANCE AND OUR KIDS' OWN CIRCUMSTANCE, WE'RE ABLE TO TELL THAT STORY.

THE CITY HAS BOTH STATE AND FEDERAL LOBBYISTS, AND THEY'RE ALWAYS SAYING, "DO YOU HAVE FERNDALE DATA?" WE SAY, "WELL, WE DON'T REALLY, BUT WE CAN EXTRAPOLATE", WHICH REALLY MAKES IT DIFFICULT FOR US TO TELL WHAT THE FERNDALE NARRATIVE IS.

WE'RE TRYING TO ALWAYS EXPLORE WAYS WHERE WE CAN BRING DATA THAT WE SELF-CREATE RATHER THAN FROM OTHERS, AND SO WE'RE HOPING TO WORK WITH THE SCHOOL DISTRICT AND THE SCHOOL BOARD TO SEE IF WE CAN'T BRING SOME REAL 98248 DATA.

>> ONE OF YOUR BOARD MEMBERS HAS THEIR HAND UP.

>> GO AHEAD, NANCY.

>> THANK YOU. HI. THANK YOU BOTH SO MUCH FOR COMING AND TALKING TO OUR BOARD AND ADMINISTRATION? APPRECIATE THAT. I HAVE TWO QUESTION.

ONE IS, HAS WHAT HAS BEEN DEVELOPED HERE MOSTLY HIGH DENSITY HOUSING OR INDIVIDUAL HOMES, AND WHAT ARE YOU PLANNING BEYOND THAT? HOW DOES THE LOWERED BIRTH RATES AFFECT THINGS?

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>> THOSE ARE BOTH TWO REALLY GOOD QUESTIONS.

I'M GOING TO GET INTO MORE DETAIL ABOUT WHAT TYPE OF HOUSING WE EXPECT TO SEE LATER ON IN THE PRESENTATION, SO I HOPE YOU'LL ALLOW ME TO DEFER TO THAT.

THE LOWER BIRTH RATES, THE AGING BABY BOOMERS, AND THEIR ULTIMATE DEMISE ARE ALL PART OF THE POPULATION PROJECTIONS.

I'M GOING TO GET INTO THIS A LITTLE MORE DETAIL LATER ON TOO, BUT THE STATE OF WASHINGTON GIVES US A RANGE OF POPULATION PROJECTIONS. THAT'S WHERE WE START.

WE START WITH WHAT THE OFFICE OF FINANCIAL MANAGEMENT GIVES US, AND THEN THE COUNTY ACTUALLY TOOK THAT AND NARROWED IT.

THEY HAVE A, A HIGH, AND A MEDIUM.

MEDIUM, AGAIN, IS PRETTY ACCURATE WHEN WE LOOK BACK ON THE LAST 20 YEARS FOR HOW THE COUNTY HAS GROWN, BUT AGAIN, OUR COMMUNITY HAS TENDED TO GROW QUICKER THAN OVERALL WHATCOM COUNTY.

THAT INFORMATION, COMMISSIONER, IS GOING TO BE IN THAT POPULATION PROJECTION REPORT, AND YOU CAN GO AS DEEP INTO THAT AS YOU WANT TO.

IT'LL REFERENCE ALL THE DIFFERENT PIECES THAT THEY PULLED INTO THAT.

ALSO, PART OF IT IS THE TREND TOWARDS SMALLER FAMILIES.

THEY DO ACTUALLY LOOK A FAIR AMOUNT INTO WHAT'S HAPPENING OVERALL IN THE STATE, IN THE REGION, AND THEN WHAT THEY EXPECT TO HAPPEN MORE LOCALLY AS THEY DEVELOP THOSE POPULATION PROJECTIONS.

>> THANK YOU.

>> YOU BET! THIS IS JUST A SIMPLE WAY TO ILLUSTRATE WHAT THE COMP PLAN IS AND HOW IT WORKS.

HERE'S A GOAL FROM OUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.

RECOGNIZE AFFORDABLE HOUSING PROJECTS, MAY NOT YIELD THE SAME RETURN ON INVESTMENT FOR DEVELOPERS AS A MARKET RATE DEVELOPMENT, AND IDENTIFY INCENTIVES OR OTHER PROCESS TO ENCOURAGE AFFORDABLE HOUSING.

THAT'S OVERALL GOAL, BROAD.

THEN WE'VE GOT THE POLICY. WELL, GREAT.

THIS IS ONE WAY THAT WE THINK THAT WE CAN MAKE A DENT IN THIS GOAL AND ADVANCE WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO.

AMEND OUR PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT ORDINANCE TO PROVIDE DENSITY BONUSES FOR THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING PROJECT.

THIS IS HOW IT OPERATIONALIZE ITSELF IN THE CODE.

WE'VE GOT THE GOAL, THE POLICY, AND THEN WE WENT INTO THE CODE, AND WE ALLOWED FOR DENSITY INCREASES FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING PROJECTS IN PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENTS.

YOU CAN TRACE THAT BACK TO ANYTHING, WHETHER IT'S ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, WHETHER IT'S DECISIONS WE MAKE ABOUT OUR WATER OR SEWER, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A GOAL.

WE'RE GOING TO HAVE SEVERAL POLICIES TO IMPLEMENT THOSE GOALS, AND THEN WE'RE GOING TO TAKE ACTIONS TO IMPLEMENT THOSE INTO OUR DEVELOPMENT CODE OR INTO ANOTHER CITY PROCESS THAT WE USE AS WE DO OUR DAY-TO-DAY WORK.

OUR DEVELOPMENT CODE, AGAIN, THE FERNDALE MUNICIPAL CODE, YOU'LL HEAR US REFER TO A LOT AS FMC.

IT IMPLEMENTS THE VISION FROM THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, OUR GOALS AND POLICIES.

THAT'S WHERE OUR STANDARDS ARE, OUR REGULATIONS, THAT WE APPLY TO NEW DEVELOPMENT.

WE APPLY TO DECISIONS THAT WE MAKE.

THEN CITY STAFF AND HEARING EXAMINER, A FAIR AMOUNT OF THE DECISIONS WITHIN THE COMMUNITY ARE STAFF-MADE.

THEY'RE APPEALABLE TO OUR HEARING EXAMINER, BUT SOME OF THE MORE DISCRETIONARY ONES ARE ACTUAL DECISIONS THAT WE MAKE A RECOMMENDATION TO THE HEARINGS EXAMINER.

HEARINGS EXAMINER IS AN INDEPENDENT LAW JUDGE.

WE DO PAY THEM, BUT THEY ISSUE DECISIONS, WHETHER WE WANT THEM TO OR NOT BASED ON THE RULE OF LAW.

I USED TO BE A CONSULTANT.

I USED TO DO A FAIR AMOUNT OF PRIVATE DEVELOPMENT WORK FOR CITIES AND PRIVATE DEVELOPERS.

I'LL TELL YOU THE HEARINGS EXAMINER IS ALWAYS THE PERSON I WANT TO GO TO.

NO POLITICS, LIKE LAW AND HOW THE LAW APPLIES TO THE SITUATION.

PRETTY PREDICTABLE IN TERMS OF WHAT HAPPENS.

SOME EXAMPLES OF OUR DEVELOPMENT CODE TO OUR ZONE.

IF YOU'RE IN A PIECE OF PROPERTY WITHIN THE CITY, YOU'RE IN A SPECIFIC ZONE.

WE'RE IN THE PI ZONE RIGHT HERE.

THIS IS A PUBLIC INSTITUTIONALIZED ZONE.

IN THAT ZONING CODE, IT'LL TELL YOU WHAT YOU CAN AND CAN'T DO IN THIS ZONE.

OTHER EXAMPLES THAT ARE MORE MAYBE GERMANE TO BEING A HOMEOWNER OR LIVING IN A HOUSE, WHERE CAN I PUT MY FENCE? WHERE CAN I PUT MY DECK? WHAT ARE THE SETBACKS? HOW MUCH LOT COVERAGE CAN I HAVE? WHAT DO ROADS LOOK LIKE? HOW WIDE ARE THEY? DO THEY HAVE BIKE LANES OR NOT HAVE BIKE LANES? THESE ARE ALL THINGS THAT ARE PART OF OUR DEVELOPMENT CODE.

A BIG PART OF OUR COMPREHENSIVE UP DATE AND PERIODIC UPDATE IS LOOKING AT OUR URBAN GROWTH AREA.

THE URBAN GROWTH AREA IS PRETTY IMPORTANT IN TERMS OF HOW WE MANAGE GROWTH MOVING FORWARD.

AN URBAN GROWTH AREA REALLY IS JUST A GEOGRAPHIC BOUNDARY THAT'S AROUND CITY LIMITS.

IT'S IDENTIFIED FOR FUTURE GROWTH IN URBANIZATION, AND IT IS SOMETHING THAT WE'RE MANDATED TO STUDY, LOOK, AND MAKE CHANGES TO.

SOME EXAMPLES, OBVIOUSLY, FERNDALE HAS A UGA BLAINE DOES, BUT ALSO BIRCH BAY, WHICH ISN'T INCORPORATED CITY, BUT THEY HAVE AN URBAN GROWTH AREA, SAME WITH CHERRY POINT.

PLACES THAT DON'T HAVE UGAS, CUSTER, GLACIER.

THOSE ARE [INAUDIBLE] AND I CAN COME BACK AND CHAT WITH YOU MORE ABOUT THOSE IF YOU WANT IN OTHER TIME.

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>> WHERE'S BELLINGHAM?

>> I DIDN'T PUT BELLINGHAM IN THERE BECAUSE THEY GET TALKED ABOUT TOO MUCH, BUT BELLINGHAM HAS A UGA.

THEY'RE THE LARGEST CITIES, SO THEY HAVE AN URBAN GROWTH AREA.

>> I WANTED TO GO BACK TO SOMETHING YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT EARLIER, THAT OUR GROWTH HAS BEEN REALLY HIGH.

HAVE WE BEEN ENCOURAGING THAT? WHY HAS BELLINGHAM BEEN LOWER? WHAT'S THE DIFFERENCE, AND ARE WE REQUIRED TO ACCOMMODATE A HIGHER LEVEL OF GROWTH THAN ANY OF THE SURROUNDING CITIES OR IS THAT A DECISION THAT'S MADE BY PLANNERS AND CITY COUNCIL?

>> [INAUDIBLE] FIRST CRACK?

>> GO FOR IT.

>> BELLINGHAM MADE A TRANSITION 20-25 YEARS AGO, WHERE THEY DO HAVE A UGA WHICH IS GENERALLY TO THE NORTH OF THE CITY OF BELLINGHAM AND THEN TO THE EAST, BECAUSE THEY'RE CONSTRAINED OBVIOUSLY ON THE WEST BY THE WATER, CHUCKANUT, AND THEN LAKE WHATCOM.

THEY REALLY ONLY HAVE A COUPLE OF AREAS THAT THEY CAN GO.

BELLINGHAM STOPPED BEING THE CENTRAL MARKET FOR SINGLE-FAMILY ABOUT MAYBE 20 YEARS AGO OR SO.

THAT WAS PARTLY BY CHOICE AND PARTLY JUST BECAUSE WITH THE EXCEPTION OF CORE DATA, THEY DIDN'T REALLY HAVE ANY AREA FOR THAT TO GO.

PART OF THAT WE JOKE ABOUT THERE BEING SOCIAL ENGINEERING, PEOPLE WON'T WANT SINGLE-FAMILY ANYMORE IF WE DON'T ENABLE THEM TO HAVE SINGLE-FAMILY.

NOT REALLY TRUE BECAUSE WHAT THAT DOES IS IT PUSHES THAT DEMAND OUT.

IT PUSHES IT OUT TO FERNDALE, LINDEN, ALL THE CITIES THAT MIKE HAS LISTED HERE.

BELLINGHAM STARTED TO MAKE THE TRANSITION THOUGH, WHERE THEY ARE HAVING MORE MULTIFAMILY DEVELOPMENT.

AS WE GO THROUGH THIS TRANSITION, I THINK THAT WHAT WE'RE SEEING, ESPECIALLY 10 YEARS AGO, WAS THE SMALLER CITIES GETTING A DISPROPORTIONATE PERCENTAGE OF SINGLE-FAMILY RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT, AND BELLINGHAM STARTING TO GET A DISPROPORTIONATE AMOUNT OF MULTIFAMILY DEVELOPMENT.

NOW, FROM A CITY PERSPECTIVE, SINGLE-FAMILY DEVELOPMENT, ESPECIALLY IN A BEDROOM COMMUNITY, HAS MORE NEED FOR SERVICES THAN IT GENERATES IN TAX REVENUE.

THIS IS CYNICAL DOLLARS AND CENTS SCENARIO.

SINGLE-FAMILY LOSES MORE MONEY FOR THE LOCAL JURISDICTION THAN MULTIFAMILY.

MULTIFAMILY IS MORE PROFITABLE.

I THINK THAT FROM THE SMALL CITIES, THERE WAS, "WHAT THE HECK, BELLINGHAM?" YOU HAVE THE COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT AND YOU'RE ENABLING THE MULTIFAMILY, THEREFORE, YOUR FINANCES ARE BETTER THAN OURS, WHERE WE HAVE SINGLE-FAMILY, WHICH IS MORE COSTLY AND WE DON'T HAVE THE COMMERCIAL TO SUPPLEMENT THAT.

THEY'RE NOT EVEN SHOPPING HERE.

THEY'RE TENDING TO SHOP IN BELLINGHAM.

THERE WAS VERY MUCH A SMALL CITY VERSUS BELLINGHAM PERSPECTIVE.

BELLINGHAM STARTING TO GROW AS PER ITS PROJECTIONS A LITTLE BIT CLOSER OVER THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS.

HAVE WE TAKEN A DISPROPORTIONATE SHARE IN THE MOVIE DAYS OF THUNDER? AMAZING MOVIE. MAYBE THEY'RE MAKING A SEQUEL.

TOM CRUISE WAS ASKED, "WHY ARE YOU GOING SO FAST?" HE SAID, "IT'S NOT THAT I'M GOING TOO FAST, IT'S THAT THE OTHER RACE CARS ARE GOING SLOWER", AND I THINK THAT THAT'S WHAT WE'VE SEEN IN FERNDALE.

WE'VE CONTINUED TO HAVE A PRETTY STRAIGHT LINE GROWTH.

THE OTHER CITIES HAVE BEEN MUCH MORE CYCLICAL THAN WE HAVE.

IT'S NOT THAT WE'RE GROWING FASTER, IT'S THAT CITIES HAVE NOT NECESSARILY PLANNED FOR GROWTH THE WAY WE HAVE.

>> THE ONLY THING I WOULD ADD IS IT'S NOT NECESSARILY THAT MULTIFAMILY IS MORE LUCRATIVE.

IT ACTUALLY PAYS FOR ITSELF.

AT ABOUT 30 YEARS WITH SINGLE-FAMILY DEVELOPMENTS, WE START SEEING THE AMOUNT TO MAINTAIN THE INFRASTRUCTURE, THE WATER LINES, REDO THE ROADS, ALL THOSE THINGS, EXCEEDS THE REVENUE THAT'S COMING IN, WHEREAS WITH MULTIFAMILY, COMMERCIAL, INDUSTRIAL, YOU TEND TO HAVE MORE OF A BALANCED.

A REALLY GOOD EXAMPLE ON THE NATIONAL STAGE IS ATLANTA.

YOU CAN LOOK AROUND ATLANTA AND THEY'RE ACTUALLY LOOKING TO DE-ANNEX SINGLE-FAMILY AREAS FROM THE ATLANTA AREA BECAUSE THEY CAN'T MAINTAIN THEM.

THEY'RE LIKE, "COOL, COUNTY, YOU CAN HAVE THIS BACK".

DID WE ANSWER YOUR QUESTION? WE'LL PROBABLY ANSWER MORE OF IT AS I GO ON TOO.

>> I THINK THE CONVENTIONAL AMERICAN DREAM IS SINGLE-FAMILY, AND THAT'S VERY MUCH WHAT I THINK THAT THERE'S OFTEN A PERSPECTIVE OF THERE'S A DECLINE IF SINGLE-FAMILY IS NOT POSSIBLE, AND WHY SHOULD WE PLAN FOR ANYTHING BUT THE DREAM,

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THE IDEAL, AND THAT'S HARD TO ANSWER BECAUSE I LIVE IN A SINGLE-FAMILY.

I WANT A SINGLE-FAMILY, AND ASKING FOR SOMETHING DIFFERENT IS, I THINK, SOMETHING THAT WE'VE NEEDED TO CONFRONT WITH MISSING MIDDLE HOUSING, IS WHAT THEY CALL IT, AND OTHER THINGS.

IF SINGLE-FAMILY IS IN SOME WAYS THAT AMERICAN DREAM AND STILL IS, WE WANT TO BE ABLE TO HELP TO CREATE A HIGH QUALITY OF LIFE IN ANY TYPE OF HOUSING, AND THAT'S PART OF THE STRUGGLE, IS SOMETIMES THAT MEANS THAT THERE'S DIFFERENT WAYS OF DOING IT THAN WE USED TO DO.

THEN IT INTRODUCES SCHOOLS AND PUBLIC AGENCIES INTO THE MIX A LITTLE BIT MORE.

>> JUST TO MAKE IT A LOT EASIER.

THE STATE IS MANDATING THAT WE ACTUALLY CHANGE IT, AND I'LL GO INTO THAT IN A LITTLE MORE.

I'M GOING TO TRY NOT TO SAY STATE-MANDATED SO MUCH AND MAKE THEM SOUND LIKE THE BOGEYMAN, BUT A LOT OF WHAT WE'RE DOING DURING THIS PROCESS IS REQUIRED BY THE STATE.

AGAIN, OUR UGA. THIS IS OUR URBAN GROWTH AREA.

THIS IS THE FUTURE GROWTH AREA FOR THE CITY, AREAS WITHIN THE UGA ARE ANNEXED INTO THE CITY, AND THEN CAN BE SERVED WITH WATER AND SEWER.

THAT'S THE WAY WE'RE SET UP HERE IN FERNDALE.

TWENTY-YEAR SUPPLY OF LAND.

WE DON'T JUST DO IT AND THEN WAIT 20 YEARS, WE GO BACK EVERY 10 YEARS, WE REVISIT TO MAKE SURE WE'RE ON COURSE, MAKE SURE WE'RE DOING THE RIGHT THINGS.

I'LL TELL YOU EVERY FIVE YEARS, I HAVE TO GO BACK AND MEASURE THE GROWTH BECAUSE WE'RE A BUILDABLE LANDS COUNTY.

I HAVE TO GO BACK EVERY FIVE YEARS AND SAY, "HEY, DO WE ACHIEVE THE DENSITIES WE THOUGHT WE WERE? IS THE DEVELOPMENT OCCURRING THE WAY WE WERE SUPPOSED TO BE?" IF NOT, THEN WE HAVE TO GO AND MAKE CORRECTIONS TO OUR DEVELOPMENT CODE OR OTHER ZONING CONTROLS.

THERE'S A FAIR AMOUNT OF DELIBERATE STEPS MAKING US REVISIT AND LOOK AT THINGS ALONG THE WAY, BUT WE DO PLAN FOR A 20-YEAR PLANNING HORIZON, IS WHAT WE CALL.

URBAN GROWTH AREA RESERVE.

THE URBAN GROWTH AREA RESERVE IS AN AREA BEYOND THE UGA.

THIS IS THE AREA THAT WOULD NEXT BECOME THE URBAN GROWTH AREA.

I KNOW IT'S A LITTLE BIT CONFUSING.

WE'RE PLANNING FOR A 20-40-YEAR TIME FRAME HERE IN WHATCOM COUNTY, BUT I THINK THIS WILL HELP.

CITY LIMITS IS BLUE, THAT'S OUR CITY LIMITS.

IF YOU'RE IN THIS BLUE POLYGON UP HERE ON THE SCREEN, YOU ARE WITHIN THE CITY OF FERNDALE.

ANYTHING NOT IN THAT BLUE, YOU'RE IN WHATCOM COUNTY.

THE UGA IS ORANGE.

THIS IS OUR UGA.

THIS IS OUR FUTURE GROWTH AREA FOR THE NEXT 20 YEARS., AND WITHIN THIS EXISTING ORANGE UGA, WE CAN ACCOMMODATE OUR 20-YEAR SUPPLY OF RESIDENTIAL LAND WITHIN THERE.

THEN WHAT YOU HAVE LEFTOVER, IS YOU HAVE THOSE HATCHED AREAS.

THE DIAGONALLY HATCHED AREAS, THAT'S OUR UGA RESERVE.

THAT WOULD BE FOR 2045-2065.

SOME OF THE NEW LEGISLATION THAT WE'RE TRYING TO IMPLEMENT HERE.

CERTAINLY, I BET AT LEAST ONE OR TWO PEOPLE IN THIS ROOM HAVE HEARD OF HOUSE BILL 1220.

HOUSE BILL 1220 REQUIRES US TO PLAN FOR AND ACCOMMODATE HOUSING FOR ALL THE COMMUNITY.

THIS IS WHAT WOULD STOP US FROM SAYING, "WE JUST WANT TO HAVE SINGLE FAMILY DETACHED DWELLINGS AND WE'RE ONLY GOING TO BUILD AND PLAN FOR SINGLE FAMILY DETACHED DWELLINGS." BECAUSE IF YOU LOOK AT OUR CURRENT COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, THAT'S WHAT ALL OF OUR URBAN GROWTH AREA IS.

IT'S IDENTIFIED AS LOW DENSITY RESIDENTIAL MOVING FORWARD.

THIS BILL SAYS, YOU CAN'T DO THAT ANYMORE, FERNDALE.

YOU'VE GOT A PLAN FOR HOUSING THAT YOUR COMMUNITY CAN AFFORD.

WE LOOKED AT THE COMMUNITY, WE LOOKED AT WHAT OUR COMMUNITY CAN AFFORD, AND THEN WE'VE ESSENTIALLY TRANSLATED WHAT THEY CAN AFFORD INTO DIFFERENT TYPES OF HOUSING, AND WE HAVE TO HAVE ZONING IN PLACE THAT CAN ACCOMMODATE THAT TYPE OF HOUSING.

MULTIMODAL TRANSPORTATION, I TALKED A LITTLE BIT ABOUT, THAT'S GOING TO MAKE US FOCUS MORE ON BIKE PEDESTRIAN TRANSIT IMPROVEMENTS.

WE HAVE TO DO THAT AS PART OF OUR TRANSPORTATION PLANNING.

THE POSITIVE THING ON THAT IS IT ALLOWS US TO COLLECT IMPACT FEES FOR BIKE AND PEDESTRIAN IMPROVEMENTS AS PART OF OUR TRANSPORTATION PLAN.

NOW WE HAVE POTENTIAL FUNDING SOURCE THAT WE CAN USE IF WE CHOOSE TO TO HELP OFFSET THE COST OF PROVIDING THOSE FACILITIES.

THEN THE CLIMATE ELEMENT, I THINK IS PROBABLY THE SECOND OR THIRD MOST LARGEST THING HERE.

THIS IS A WHOLE NEW CHAPTER OF OUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, AND THE STATE IS SAYING, "HEY, YOU GUYS NEED TO INVENTORY GREENHOUSE GAS EMISSIONS, AND PUT IN SOME STRATEGIES TO REDUCE THAT." THEY DIDN'T SAY WE HAVE TO REDUCE IT THIS MUCH OR THAT MUCH.

THEY'RE REALLY STARTING OFF PRETTY NICELY, I THINK BY SAYING, "MEASURE IT AND TELL US HOW YOU'RE GOING TO MAKE IT BE NOT AS BAD IN THE FUTURE." THEN RESILIENCY.

WE HAD OUR FLOOD IN 2021.

RESILIENCY IS HOW WE RESPOND TO EVENTS LIKE FLOODING,

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WILDFIRE, SMOKE, EXTREME HEAT, THINGS LIKE THAT.

WE HAVE TO HAVE A PLAN FOR HOW TO GO ABOUT DOING THAT.

THE POPULATION EMPLOYMENT PROJECTIONS.

THEY'RE COORDINATED ACROSS THE COUNTY.

AGAIN, CAN I TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THIS.

OFM GIVES US A HIGH MEDIUM OR LOW.

THE COUNTY HAD THEIR CONSULTANT REVISE THAT DOWN TO A SMALLER RANGE, AND THEY TAKE THE POPULATION PROJECTIONS AND THAT'S HOW THEY EXTRAPOLATE OUT OUR EMPLOYMENT.

BASED ON HOW MANY PEOPLE LIVE IN THE COUNTY NOW, AND WE HAVE THIS MANY JOBS, IF THIS MANY PEOPLE ARE GOING TO BE IN THE COUNTY IN THE FUTURE, HOW MANY NEW JOBS DO WE NEED? THEN WHAT THEY DO IS THEY ACTUALLY LOOK BACK TO SEE WHERE HAS OUR EMPLOYMENT GROWTH HAPPENED.

FERNDALE, ACTUALLY WE BUILD STUFF HERE.

WE HAVE A GOOD JOB BASE HERE.

WE DO MANUFACTURING.

WE HAVE ALL OF EMPLOYMENT OPPORTUNITIES.

WE DO NOT HAVE A LOT OF THE COMMERCIAL OPPORTUNITIES YOU SEE IN BELLINGHAM, BUT WE HAVE GOOD PAYING JOBS HERE, AND WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE TO HAVE THOSE.

PART OF THAT IS BECAUSE WE'RE SITUATED RED ON I5.

WE HAVE FOUR EXITS ON I5, WE'RE RIGHT NEXT TO THE AIRPORT, WE'RE RIGHT NEXT TO CHERRY POINT.

THERE'S A GOOD SYNERGY.

WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE TO RAISE PEOPLE'S ATTENTION.

THEY'RE GOING TO WANT TO BE HERE, EMPLOYMENT-WISE.

AGAIN, WE'VE GOT THE 10,961 PEOPLE, THE 3,337 JOBS, COULD WE HAVE CHOSEN TO GO FOR MEDIUM OR LOW, WE COULD HAVE.

WE CHOSE TO PLAN FOR HIGH.

WE'RE NOT TRYING TO MAKE THE HIGH, WE'RE TRYING TO BE PREPARED AND MAKE SURE OUR INFRASTRUCTURE IS SIZED PROPERLY.

WE'RE TRYING TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'VE THOUGHT ABOUT THE IMPROVEMENTS WE NEED TO MAKE WITHIN THE COMMUNITY, AND WE HAVE A FUNDING MECHANISM IN PLACE.

IF WE DON'T ACHIEVE THAT 10,961 PEOPLE IN THE NEXT 20 YEARS, GUESS WHAT, WE'LL PROBABLY DO IT IN '25 OR '30.

HAVING THAT THOUGHT AND THAT INFORMATION IN PLACE AND THAT PLAN FOR HOW TO PAY FOR THAT INFRASTRUCTURE, PUTS US IN THE ABILITY TO ACTUALLY MAKE DEVELOPMENT PAY FOR THE PORTION OF ITS CAPACITY THAT IT CAN.

WE CAN'T CHARGE DEVELOPMENT 100% IN THE STATE OF WASHINGTON, BUT THROUGH IMPACT FEES, WE CAN PUT A FAIR AMOUNT OF THE BURDEN ON THE DEVELOPMENT.

WHAT THAT DOES IS EXISTING RESIDENTS WITHIN THE COMMUNITY ARE LESS BURDENED WITH THOSE IMPROVEMENTS.

THAT'S THE BASIC GIST OF WHY TO GO FOR HIGH.

THEN ALSO, WHEN AGAIN, WE LOOK BACK AND WE SEE WHAT'S ACTUALLY HAPPENED, WE LOOK WHERE WE'RE GEOGRAPHICALLY LOCATED, WE LOOK WHAT'S HAPPENING IN THE COMMUNITIES AROUND US, WE'RE LIKELY TO CONTINUE TO GROW AT THE RATE THAT WE ARE.

>> THE PROJECTED JOBS, ARE THEY THE TYPES OF JOBS THAT WOULD ALLOW PEOPLE TO BE ABLE TO AFFORD TO LIVE HERE BECAUSE I KNOW SO MANY PEOPLE WHO ARE LEAVING BECAUSE THEY CAN'T AFFORD TO LIVE HERE.

I WOULD THINK THAT THAT WOULD BE NUMBER ONE FREEING UP SOME HOUSING.

NUMBER 2, MAYBE HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE WE LOSING? DO YOU HAVE ANY STATISTICS ON THAT?

>> I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY PEOPLE SPECIFICALLY WE'RE LOSING, BUT OVERALL, OUR POPULATION IS GROWING, AND IT HAS.

I'VE BEEN HERE FOR FOUR YEARS, AND WE'VE CONSISTENTLY BEEN GROWING EVERY YEAR.

WHILE SOME PEOPLE MAY BE LEAVING, CERTAINLY MAYBE PEOPLE ARE CHOOSING NOT TO RETIRE HERE, MAYBE LOOKING FOR A MORE LOW COST PLACE TO RETIRE, WE'RE CONTINUING TO ADD POPULATION, THAT GROWTH IS CONTINUING.

THE JOBS THAT I THINK WE'RE LIKELY TO SEE, FERNDALE BACK IN THE DAY WAS LIKE, "HEY, WE'RE ON I5.

MAYBE WE CAN ATTRACT SOME OF THESE COMMERCIAL SALES.

MAYBE WE CAN GET THE WALMART.

MAYBE WE CAN GET THE COSTCO, THE TARGET." THEY ACTUALLY ROLLED OUT THE CARPET.

WE PUT ZONING IN PLACE CALLED REGIONAL RETAIL.

WE STILL HAVE SOME UP AT THE GRANDVIEW INTERCHANGE.

WE SAID, "HEY, COME HERE, WE WOULD LOVE YOUR SALES TAX." THOSE TEND TO BE LOW PAYING JOBS.

FOR WHATEVER REASON, THEY DIDN'T WANT TO COME TO FERNDALE.

THEY WANT TO GO TO BELLINGHAM, AMAZON.

THE JOBS THAT WE TEND TO SEE ARE HIGHER PAYING JOBS.

AGAIN, WE DO BUILD THINGS HERE.

IF YOU LOOKED AT THE AMOUNT OF MANUFACTURING JOBS WE HAVE PER CAPITA, WE HAVE MORE PER CAPITA THAN WHAT THEY HAVE IN BELLINGHAM.

DO WE HAVE THE POTENTIAL TO CAPTURE SOME MORE HIGH TECH AND HIGHER PAYING JOBS? I THINK WE DO IF WE MAKE THE RIGHT DECISIONS MOVING FORWARD INTO THE FUTURE.

>> FROM MY OWN PERSONAL STANDPOINT, LIVING WITH ADULT CHILDREN WHO ARE LIVING AT HOME BECAUSE THEY CAN'T AFFORD HOUSING, DON'T WANT TO BE PAYING RENT BECAUSE YOU'RE PAYING MORE IN RENT THAN YOU WOULD FOR A MORTGAGE PAYMENT, AND YET NOT MAKING ENOUGH TO QUALIFY FOR A LOAN THAT WOULD COVER THE COST OF A SINGLE FAMILY HOME, WHICH IS, YES, STILL THE DREAM RATHER THAN PACKING YOURSELF INTO AN APARTMENT WITH FELLOW RENTERS.

I HAVEN'T OVER THE LAST SEVERAL YEARS SEE THAT MOVE WHEN I SEE THE RIGHT DIRECTION,

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AND SO WHEN WE SEND KIDS THROUGH THE SCHOOL SYSTEM, I THINK THE IDEA IS TO LAUNCH THEM INTO A GOOD LIFE.

I DO WONDER WHEN YOUNG PEOPLE GRADUATE FROM HERE BECAUSE OF THE HIGH COST OF LIVING IF THEY CAN ACTUALLY AFFORD TO STAY HERE.

THAT'S A CONCERN.

>> I THINK MY KIDS, MAYBE BRACKETING, YOURS OR A LITTLE BIT YOUNGER PERHAPS WHERE I HAVE A RECENT GRADUATE AND A SOON TO BE GRADUATE.

TALKING ABOUT THIS REGION AS A TEENAGER, MAYBE, BACK IN THE '60S, '70S, '80S, THERE WAS ENOUGH CAPACITY IN TERMS OF LAND AND THE INDUSTRIES WERE AT A POINT WHERE THEY HAD THE ABILITY TO EITHER GROW IN PLACE OR TO RELOCATE AND EXPAND.

WHAT WE'RE SEEING INCREASINGLY IS WHEN IT COMES TO EMPLOYMENT LANDS, ESPECIALLY FOR GOOD EMPLOYMENT LANDS, THE NATURE OF BUSINESS IS TO WANT TO EXPAND, AND TO WANT TO CONTINUE TO HAVE YEAR-OVER-YEAR, INCREASING OR AT LEAST STEADY PROFIT MARGINS.

THAT GENERALLY MEANS THAT YOU NEED TO INCREASE YOUR PHYSICAL PLANT, OR YOU NEED TO MAKE A DECISION EITHER TO MOVE, TO SEPARATE OR TO DISSOLVE.

RIGHT NOW IN WHATCOM COUNTY, THERE'S NOT ENOUGH LAND CAPACITY FOR OUR EXISTING BUSINESSES TO GROW IN THE WAY THAT THEY WANT TO.

THINK HEMPLER'S, WHERE HEMPLER'S, OVER THE LAST 10 YEARS WAS ABLE TO EXPAND ON PROPERTIES THAT THEY OWN.

BUT WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE ACTUAL CAPACITY WITHIN WHATCOM COUNTY OF INDUSTRIES TO GROW, THERE AREN'T ANY PLACES, MANY PLACES WITHIN THE URBAN GROWTH AREAS OR WITHIN THE CITIES THAT THEY CAN EXPAND TO.

WHAT HAPPENS OFTEN IS WE DO SEE BUSINESSES GO AWAY OR WE SEE BUSINESSES GO AWAY, AND CERTAINLY NOT SEEING BUSINESSES FROM CANADA OR THE PUGET SOUND REGION RELOCATING HERE AS THEY DID ABOUT 20 YEARS AGO.

THAT'S WHY THINGS LIKE THE GRANDVIEW AREA AND THE MALLOY AREA, BRINGING THOSE ONLINE COULD BRING ONLINE ABOUT 500 ACRES ADDED TO THE CAPACITY, WHICH IS MORE THAN WHAT HAS BEEN ADDED IN ABOUT THE LAST 20 YEARS COMBINED.

I DON'T HAVE THOSE SPECIFIC NUMBERS, BUT THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT BECAUSE THAT ENABLES NOT JUST THE SLOW PROGRESSION, BUT THE LARGE ALL OF A SUDDEN WE HAVE THINGS HAPPENING IN WHATCOM COUNTY.

SO WE'RE WANTING TO BALANCE THAT.

HONESTLY, I DON'T KNOW THAT THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE'VE ACTUALLY SEEN IN THE LAST 20 YEARS BECAUSE A LOT OF THE GROWTH IN BUSINESS HAS BEEN THROUGH RETAILER SERVICE, DOMINATED PRIMARILY THROUGH BELLINGHAM, WHICH ARE LOWER PAYING JOBS, BUT THE [INAUDIBLE] IS WITH MASTER'S DEGREES THAT YOU HEAR ABOUT.

WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO IS TO CREATE MORE OF, AS MIKE SAID, THE STUFF THAT PEOPLE MAKE AND THE STUFF THAT YOU DON'T NECESSARILY NEED TO GO TO.

WHERE I GRADUATED AND WHERE I KNOW THAT FAMILY MEMBERS WORK AT HARVARD ON THE HILL, THERE NEEDS TO BE THE COMBINATION OF HIGH SCHOOL, TECH SCHOOL, COLLEGE EMPLOYMENT HERE.

>> THEN I THINK THE CONCERNS WITH HOUSING, ONE OF THE REASONS FOLKS CAN'T AFFORD TO BUY A HOUSING IS JUST THE AMOUNT OF HOUSING STOCK, EVERY VACANCY RATES.

THEY ARE STARTING TO COME DOWN IN THE REGION, WHICH IS GOOD.

BUT THE HOUSE BILL 1220 IS REALLY ORIENTED TOWARDS TRYING TO PROVIDE THOSE DIFFERENT TYPES OF HOUSING OPTIONS SO THAT YOU CAN GET YOUR KIDS OUT OF YOUR HOUSE.

I HAVE A NINE-YEAR-OLD, AND HE TOLD ME AND MY WIFE HE WAS GOING TO LIVE WITH US FOREVER, AND RIGHT NOW, YOU HAVE TO LOOK AT AND BE LIKE, "WELL, YOU MIGHT." PART OF THAT HB 1220 IS REALLY, LIKE, "LET'S GET THE RIGHT TYPE OF HOUSING IN THE COMMUNITY THAT MATCHES WHAT PEOPLE CAN AFFORD TO PAY FOR IT." WHETHER THEY CAN OWN IT, OR WHETHER THEY CAN RENT IT, I DO SEE THE SHIFTING OF THE AMERICAN DREAM TO A TOWN HOME.

I GREW UP IN A SINGLE FAMILY DETACHED HOUSE, BUT THE COST OF A SINGLE FAMILY DETACHED HOUSE RIGHT NOW IN WHATCOM COUNTY IS NOT SOMETHING THAT SOMEBODY WHO PROBABLY GRADUATES IS GOING TO BE ABLE TO AFFORD IN ANY NEAR POINT IN THE FUTURE, AND SO OVERALL, I THINK THE STATE OF WASHINGTON IS SEEING THAT, OBVIOUSLY MORE ON THE WEST SIDE.

SOME OF THESE REQUIREMENTS THAT THEY'RE PUTTING IN PLACE LIKE HB 1220, WE HAD THE ADU BILL THAT PASSED THAT EFFECTIVELY GOT RID OF SINGLE FAMILY ZONING WITHIN THE STATE, THEY SAID EVERY SINGLE FAMILY HOUSE NEEDS TO BE ABLE TO ACCOMMODATE TWO ADDITIONAL DWELLING UNITS.

RIGHT THERE, YOU'VE TRIPLED THE DENSITY OF ANY ZONE WITHIN WASHINGTON STATE.

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THE STATE'S TAKEN ACTION, I'M HOPING THAT WE'LL START SEEING THE DIFFERENT TYPES OF HOUSING.

CERTAINLY HERE IN FERNDALE, JUST IN THE LAST FOUR YEARS I'VE BEEN HERE, WE'VE SEEN MORE MULTIFAMILY DEVELOPMENT OCCURRING.

THAT DOES PROVIDE OPPORTUNITIES FOR FOLKS TO RENT AT A LOWER RATE.

WHAT WE HAVEN'T SEEN IS A LOT OF ADUS, BUT WE DO HAVE NEW LEGISLATION THAT WE HAD TO LOOK AT THAT WOULD ALLOW THE ADU TO BE BROKEN OFF THE HOUSE.

YOU COULD SELL THE ACTUAL INDIVIDUAL ADU.

AGAIN, SO THAT LOWERS THAT COST.

COTTAGE HOUSING IS ANOTHER ONE WHERE YOU COULD POTENTIALLY HAVE A DETACHED HOUSE THAT'S JUST SMALLER THAT COULD BE LOWER COST.

BUT I COULD CHAT ABOUT THIS ALL NIGHT.

I'LL KEEP ON GOING BECAUSE I DON'T WANT TO KEEP YOU GUYS HERE.

WE'VE GOT ALL THESE PEOPLE AND THESE JOBS AND THEY'RE GOING TO GO ABOUT HERE, AND ABOUT THERE.

I'M GOING TO GO IN THIS IN MORE DETAIL AND WALK YOU THROUGH SO YOU CAN ASK A LOT OF QUESTIONS.

BUT THAT'S WHERE WE SEE A LOT OF THINGS GOING.

WE'LL BE ABLE TO ACCOMMODATE SOME OF THE RESIDENTIAL GROWTH IN THE EXISTING NEIGHBORHOODS THROUGH THE ADUS AND MAYBE SOME INFILL, BUT A LOT OF IT IS GOING TO GO INTO OUR URBAN GROWTH AREA, AND PORTAL WAY IS ANOTHER AREA THAT WE THINK IS GOING TO BE ABLE TO ACCOMMODATE A FAIR AMOUNT OF GROWTH; BOTH EMPLOYMENT AND RESIDENTIAL.

WE'VE ALREADY STARTED SEEING THAT.

>> HB 1220 MAKES US PLAN FOR IT.

WE USE THIS BLACK BOX CALLED THE HOUSING FOR ALL PLANNING TOOL.

IT IS A BOX CREATED BY THE STATE.

DEPARTMENT OF COMMERCE PUT IT TOGETHER, AND IT GOES THROUGH, AND IT TAKES OUR EXISTING INVENTORY OF HOUSING.

IT TAKES UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT OUR DEMOGRAPHICS ARE IN A COMMUNITY, AND IT SPITS OUT NUMBERS FOR US.

THERE'S NOT A LOT OF LEVERS THAT WE GET TO PULL OR MOVE.

IT TELLS US WHAT WE NEED TO DO.

AGAIN, WE HAVE TO DEMONSTRATE THE ABILITY TO ACCOMMODATE THIS TYPE OF HOUSING.

I THINK THE SCARIEST THING FOR OUR ELECTED OFFICIALS AND FOR THE PLANNERS IN THE REGION IS WE DON'T NEED TO MAKE SURE IT HAPPENS BECAUSE THAT'D BE A REALLY BIG LIFT, BUT WE NEED TO SHOW THAT IT CAN HAPPEN.

THAT'S WHAT THE STATES REQUIRING RIGHT NOW.

AGAIN, THE HOUSING TYPES ARE CORRELATED WITH ZONING AND WE JUST NEED TO DEMONSTRATE WE HAVE THAT PROPER ZONING.

THE OTHER THING IS WE CAN'T JUST SAY, WE'RE GOING TO PUT ALL THE MULTI-FAMILY HERE.

WE'RE GOING TO PUT ALL THE SINGLE FAMILY DETACHED THERE. WE HAVE TO INTEGRATE IT.

WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE MIXED INCOME COMMUNITIES.

WE HAVE DIFFERENT TYPES OF HOUSING THROUGHOUT THE COMMUNITY.

AS I MENTIONED PREVIOUSLY, MOST OF OUR FUTURE GROWTH AREA FOR RESIDENTIAL IS IDENTIFIED AS LOW DENSITY RESIDENTIAL.

THAT WOULD BE SINGLE FAMILY DETACHED, PROBABLY ABOUT SIX DWELLING UNITS PER ACRE.

WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO CHANGE THAT TO MEET THAT HOUSE BILL 1220.

THE MULTIMODAL AND CLIMATE REQUIREMENTS ARE ALSO GOING TO HAVE US FOCUS ON DEVELOPMENT OF WHAT WE CALL COMPLETE COMMUNITIES.

THINK ABOUT BEING ABLE TO WALK FROM YOUR HOUSE, TO GET A POP, MAYBE WALK FROM YOUR HOUSE TO WORK OR RIDE YOUR BIKE TO WORK.

THESE ARE THE TYPES OF THINGS THAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO LOOK AT MORE CLOSELY.

DOWN SOUTH, BARCLAY IS A GOOD EXAMPLE, BUT NOT ON THAT SCALE.

WE'RE NOT GOING TO BE LOOKING AT PROBABLY MUCH ABOVE FOUR STORY BUILDINGS.

THAT'S THE LARGEST BUILDING WE'VE PERMITTED HERE IN FERNDALE IN RECENT TIMES, FOUR STORIES.

>> IN OUR TALKS WITH THE SUPERINTENDENT, I THINK ONE OF OUR FIRST MEETINGS WAS KRISTI SAID, "WHY ARE YOU CREATING A PARK RIGHT NEXT TO ONE OF OUR PLAYGROUNDS?" BECAUSE FOR THE COMMUNITY, IT'S THE SAME RESOURCE.

WHY CAN'T WE WORK TOGETHER TO MAKE SURE THAT WHAT ABOUT THESE AREAS THAT AREN'T SERVED? I THINK THAT THAT GOES BACK TO THE CAPITAL FACILITY PLANNING TO LOOK AT WHOLE COMMUNITY NEEDS AND TO NOT IGNORE ONE ANOTHER WHEN WE'RE BUILDING THE SAME STUFF.

BECAUSE GUESS WHAT? IT'S THE SAME TAXPAYERS THAT PAY FOR IT.

>> HOUSING WHERE? WE DID WORK WITH WESTERN.

I KNOW SOME, I'VE SEEN SOME OF YOUR FACES AT SOME OF THE MEETINGS WE'VE HAD.

WE DID DO A FAIR AMOUNT OF COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT.

WHAT WE DID IS WE HONED IN ON THREE AREAS HERE.

WE'VE GOT THIS CASCADIA, WHICH WAS ACTUALLY NAMED AFTER YOUR SCHOOL.

THE WESTERN STUDENTS NAMED IT AFTER THAT, NOT THE NEW COUNTRY THAT WANTS TO BE CREATED.

THEN WE HAVE THE MOUNTAINVIEW AREA.

AGAIN, NAMED AFTER WHERE WE ARE RIGHT NOW.

THEN WE HAVE PORTAL WAY. CASCADIA UP NORTH IS A GREENFIELD.

ERIKSON FAMILY OWNS A FAIR AMOUNT OF THE PROPERTY UP THERE, FARMING UP THERE.

THERE'S A LOT OF POTENTIAL FOR WHAT CAN OCCUR UP THERE.

WE DON'T HAVE A LOT OF THINGS UP THERE, THEY'RE GOING TO LIMIT IT.

PORTAL WAY, IT'S GOING TO BE REDEVELOPMENT.

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WE HAVE EXISTING THINGS ALONG PORTAL WAY.

THERE'S GOING TO BE SOME CHANGES ALONG THE PORTAL WAY AREA.

THEN MOUNTAINVIEW IS A MIX OF THAT GREEN AND EXISTING.

BUT THE THOUGHT HERE IS THAT WE CAN PROVIDE SOME COMMERCIAL OPPORTUNITIES IN THESE AREAS.

WE CAN PROVIDE SOME EMPLOYMENT OPPORTUNITIES, CERTAINLY PARKS, OPEN SPACE, AND THEN A RANGE OF HOUSING.

THIS IS WHERE FUTURE WISE, YOU'RE GOING TO SEE A FAIR AMOUNT OF THE NEW GROWTH GO.

>> WHEN YOU SPEAK OF PORTAL WAY, ANY OF US THAT DRIVE IT OR WATCHING THESE APARTMENTS OR CONDOS, WHATEVER THEY ARE GO UP.

HOW DO YOU DEAL WITH THE INFRASTRUCTURE WHEN YOU'VE GOT THE LOVELY ROUNDABOUT DOWN THERE, IN MY LIFETIME HAVING GROWN UP IN THE COMMUNITY, I THINK THAT THOSE EXITS RIGHT THERE AND THAT PORTION OF THE FREEWAY IS PROBABLY ABOUT THE MOST ACCIDENT PRONE I'VE SEEN.

IF YOU'RE COMING THROUGH NORTH AT THE RIGHT TIME, YOU BETTER BE IN THE LEFT HAND LANE OR YOU MAY ALL OF A SUDDEN HAVE CARS IN FRONT OF YOU STOPPED AS THEY'RE BACKED UP? THAT IMPACTS OUR SCHOOL TRAFFIC AS WELL.

HOW DO WE KEEP UP THE INFRASTRUCTURE WITH, BECAUSE THOSE HOUSES AREN'T EVEN OCCUPIED YET?

>> THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION.

I TELL YOU WHAT WE'RE DOING RIGHT NOW.

WE'RE LOOKING AT FUTURE GROWTH.

WE'RE IDENTIFYING HOW MUCH GROWTH WE THINK WE'RE GOING TO HAVE.

WE'RE GOING TO UPDATE OUR WATER, OUR TRANSPORTATION, OUR SEWER MASTER PLANS.

WE'RE GOING TO IDENTIFY THE PROJECTS WE NEED TO MITIGATE THAT GROWTH.

THE LITTLE ROUNDABOUT WAS THE TERM THAT YOU USED.

I WOULD CALL IT AN UNDERSIZED INTERIM IMPROVEMENT.

THAT ROUNDABOUT, WE ARE CURRENTLY IN THE PROCESS OF DESIGNING IMPROVEMENTS TO IT.

WE KNEW THAT THAT WAS GOING TO BE EXACERBATED WHEN THE THORNTON OVERPASS WAS PUT INTO PLACE.

BECAUSE IF YOU THINK ABOUT WHAT THE THORNTON OVERPASS DID, THAT TOOK A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF TRAFFIC OFF OUR MAIN STREET AND THEN FUNNELED IT TO A DIFFERENT INTERCHANGE.

EVERYBODY WHO LIVES UP ON THE HILL WAS GOING DOWN MAIN AND GETTING ON THE MAIN STREET INTERCHANGE.

NOW, A FAIR AMOUNT OF PEOPLE CAN EASILY ACCESS THAT PORTAL WAY INTERCHANGE.

WE'RE DESIGNING THOSE IMPROVEMENTS AND WE'LL BE MOVING FORWARD WITH MAKING THOSE IMPROVEMENTS AS SOON AS THE DESIGN IS DONE.

THAT WOULD BE AFTER FERNDALE TERRACE.

I THINK THAT WOULD BE THE MOST IMPORTANT CAPITAL PROJECT THAT WE'RE GOING TO FOCUS ON.

>> I THINK THAT YOU DON'T WANT TO PROCEED GROWTH TOO FAR BECAUSE THEN YOU HAVE A BRIDGE TO NOWHERE FOR TOO LONG A PERIOD, AND YOU DON'T WANT TO FOLLOW GROWTH TOO MUCH BECAUSE THEN YOU HAVE THE IMPACTS THAT YOU'RE DESCRIBING.

THERE'S MAYBE MORE OF AN ART THAN A SCIENCE TO IT.

SOMETIMES AND A LOT OF IT DEPENDS ON THE PSYCHOLOGY OF PEOPLE IN TERMS OF WHAT THEY DO.

WE HAVE THE FUNDING INTERNALLY, NOT RELYING ON GRANTS FOR THE LARGER ROUNDABOUT.

WHAT WE WANTED TO DO WAS MAKE SURE THAT WE HAD THE IMPACTS OF THORNTON KNOWN AND STABILIZED BEFORE WE COULD REALLY START THE DESIGN JUST BECAUSE THERE WAS A LOT OF, ARE PEOPLE USING IT TO TEST IT OUT OR NOT, DID WE HAVE A WEATHER EVENT? NOW WE'RE FULL SPEED IN DESIGN.

I THINK THE OTHER THING JUST WITH PORTAL IN GENERAL, PORTALS OLD HIGHWAY 99.

NOT MUCH HAS HAPPENED TO THE ACTUAL ROADWAY SINCE IT WAS FIRST BUILT IN.

WE SCORED IN THE 99TH PERCENTILE NATIONWIDE FOR A CONNECTING COMMUNITIES GRANT THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT.

USING CRITERIA THAT EXISTED PRIOR TO JANUARY 20TH, 2025.

THE CRITERIA HAS OBVIOUSLY CHANGED SIGNIFICANTLY SINCE THEN, WHERE WE DIDN'T SCORE AS HIGHLY BASED ON THAT SAME CRITERIA.

BUT WE'RE WORKING WITH OUR LOBBYISTS BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY REDOING PORTAL CREATES AN ALTERNATIVE TO THE FREEWAY BETWEEN PORTAL AND GRANDVIEW.

WE'VE ALSO TRIED TO ARTICULATE TO BOTH FEDERAL HIGHWAYS AND WHO THAT IN A SLEEPY TOWN OF 1,500 IN 1968-1972, WHEN THOSE INTERCHANGES WERE ESTABLISHED, IT MADE SENSE TO HAVE THOSE INTERCHANGES AS CLOSE TOGETHER AS THEY WERE AND BUILT THE WAY THEY WERE.

SIXTY YEARS LATER, IT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE AND IT CREATES TRAFFIC CONDITIONS SUCH AS WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, AND THAT THERE NEEDS TO BE MITIGATIONS IN PLACE BECAUSE IT'S ONE THING TO BE AND STOP AND GO TRAFFIC IN SEATTLE.

IT'S ANOTHER TO BE IN 80 MILE PER HOUR TRAFFIC AND NOTHING.

WE'VE ARTICULATED THAT WE'LL CONTINUE TO ARTICULATE THAT AND HOPEFULLY,

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WE'RE GOING TO SEE SOME RESPONSE. I DON'T KNOW.

>> AS PART OF THAT PLAN, ARE WE OR I HOPE WE'RE INCORPORATING WITH THE DISTRICT BECAUSE I SUSPECT WHEN THE LITTLE ITTY BITTY ROUNDABOUT BECOMES THE BIGGER ROUNDABOUT, THE TRAFFIC IS GOING TO BE STOPPED OR NOT PASSABLE THROUGH THERE, AND I SUSPECT WE HAVE A BUNCH OF BUSES THAT GO THROUGH THERE.

THAT'S GOING TO CHANGE ALL OF OUR ROUTES AND REQUIRE A BUNCH OF RE-ROUTING.

AGAIN, IT JUST EMPHASIZES THE IMPORTANCE OF COORDINATING BETWEEN THE TWO ENTITIES BECAUSE WHAT ONE DOES DEFINITELY AFFECTS THE OTHER.

>> I THINK THAT'S HOW WE FOUND THE SEWER LINE WE TALKED ABOUT EARLIER.

>> WE WOULD CERTAINLY EXPECT TO COORDINATE ON THAT.

ONCE WE HAVE THAT INITIAL CONCEPT, WHAT WOULD WORK TO BE ABLE TO WORK WITH STAKEHOLDERS INCLUDING A SCHOOL DISTRICT AND TO SAY, IS THERE A FATAL FLAW HERE? HOW CAN WE INCORPORATE ALL OF THESE DIFFERENT THINGS TOGETHER?

>> THE CONSTRUCTION PHASING FOR LARGE STREET PROJECTS IS USUALLY PRETTY BIG DEAL.

IT CAN MAKE OR BREAK THE PROJECT AND THE TIMELINE FOR CONSTRUCTION.

I THINK THE CITY DID A PRETTY GOOD JOB WITH OVER CROSSING.

THEY HAD TO DEAL WITH THE RAILROAD.

THANKFULLY, WE WON'T HAVE TO DEAL WITH THE RAILROAD HERE.

THESE ARE JUST SOME AREAS HERE, AND I'LL WALK YOU THROUGH A LITTLE BIT.

DOWN HERE, WE'RE GOING TO SEE SOME MORE RESIDENTIAL GROWTH DOWN THERE.

WE APPROVED A FAIRLY LARGE PLAN UN DEVELOPMENT LAST YEAR.

I HAD ABOUT 350 UNITS, THAT WAS A MIX OF TOWN HOMES, SO ATTACHED PRODUCT FOR SALE AND THEN APARTMENTS.

>> MIKE, CAN YOU GIVE REFERENCE POINTS BECAUSE, I KNOW ABOUT WHERE THAT IS, BUT SOME PEOPLE MAY NOT KNOW WHERE.

>> THAT WOULD BE ON LABOUNTY ACROSS FROM WHERE WAKA COUNTY WOULD LIKE TO BUILD A JAIL.

THEN UP HERE, THIS IS WHERE AXTON MEETS MAIN STREET, SOUTH OF THAT AREA.

IT'S MOSTLY FARM AND FOREST AREA DOWN THERE.

WE HAD A FAMILY FROM DOWN SOUTH, THE JANKE FAMILY PURCHASED A FAIR AMOUNT OF THAT AREA.

WE CAME IN. THEY CAME IN AND CHATTED WITH US.

THEY WERE LOOKING AT DOING I WOULD SAY MODERATELY DENSE DEVELOPMENT THERE.

FAIR AMOUNT OF TOWN HOMES, SOME APARTMENTS.

I BELIEVE THEY HAD ABOUT 110 ACRES TIED UP IN THAT AREA.

I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING WE'D EXPECT TO SEE GROWTH ON HERE PROBABLY IN THE NEXT FIVE YEARS.

THEN OTHER AREAS, WE'VE GOT UP HERE, MR. FRIBERG, LONGTIME COMMUNITY MEMBER.

IT'S ABOUT 110 ACRES UP THERE.

I THINK HE OWNS ABOUT 80 OF IT, AND THEN THE REST OF IT IS OWNED BY INDIVIDUAL PROPERTY OWNERS, 57 ACRE CHUNKS.

THAT WAS ANNEXED IN FORMALLY COMPLETED, I THINK THE END OF 2023.

I WOULD EXPECT TO SEE SOME MOVEMENT UP THERE AS WELL.

THAT IS ZONED FOR LOW DENSITY RESIDENTIAL.

DOWN HERE, WE'VE GOT SOME AREA HERE, THAT'S DOUGLAS AND WHERE DOUGLAS MEETS CHURCH.

EVERYBODY IN THE COMMUNITY KNOWS YOU CAN'T DRIVE FROM CHURCH ALL THE WAY DOWN TO DOUGLAS.

IT'S GOING TO BE A WHILE BEFORE YOU CAN DO THAT BECAUSE THERE'S AN URBAN GROWTH AREA RESERVE THERE, SO THAT'S UNLIKELY TO BE ADDED ANYTIME SOON.

BUT WE DID LOOK AT THAT AREA AND ACKNOWLEDGE THERE'S BEEN SOME GROWTH AROUND DOUGLAS.

THERE COULD BE A POTENTIAL FOR COMMERCIAL AT THAT CHURCH.

IN BETWEEN CHURCH AND DOUGLAS, AND WE'RE PLANNING FOR SOME COMMERCIAL AS PART OF OUR PROCESS MOVING FORWARD AND PROBABLY SOME HIGHER DENSITY RESIDENTIAL DOWN THERE AS WELL BECAUSE MOST OF THE STUFF ALONG DOUGLAS WOULD BE LOW DENSITY, WE DO HAVE SOME APARTMENTS.

THEN WE'VE GOT OUR UGA THAT WE TALKED ABOUT.

THIS IS ALL LOW DENSITY RESIDENTIAL.

I WOULD EXPECT TO SEE SOME OF THAT REMAIN IN SINGLE FAMILY DETACHED ZONING, BUT WE'RE LIKELY GOING TO SEE SOME COMMERCIAL ZONING IN THERE AS WELL AS SOME MIXED USE.

>> I JUST WANT TO MENTION IF YOU CAN SHOW THE JANKE PROPERTY.

AGAIN. IT'S INTERESTING BECAUSE DEVELOPMENT IS INITIATED BY PRIVATE INTERESTS, NOT THE CITY.

I'VE BEEN WITH THE CITY FOR A WHILE NOW.

IN THIS CIRCLE, THERE HAVE BEEN FOUR OR FIVE DIFFERENT DEVELOPMENT APPLICATIONS AND EACH OF THEM HAVE BEEN REAL.

THERE'S BEEN MONEY INVESTED, THERE'S BEEN DESIGNERS.

NOTHING'S COME TO IT.

THIS IS WHERE FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO ARE HERE BEFORE 2010, THIS IS GOING TO BE THE BIG REGIONAL MALL, PIONEER PLAZA WAS WHAT IT WAS CALLED.

WE HAVE A CURRENT PROPERTY OWNER WHO IS A SAVVY DEVELOPER AND MAYBE SOMETHING WILL HAPPEN.

BUT I THINK WHAT I'M TRYING TO SAY IS, THE CITY IS ANTICIPATING WHAT, IN MOST CASES,

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UNKNOWN FUTURE PRIVATE PROPERTY OWNERS ARE GOING TO DO, WHERE OUR ABILITY TO INFLECT CHANGE IS THROUGH, A COUPLE OF SEPARATIONS OF CONTROL.

THIS IS WHAT WE'RE PROJECTING.

ALL OF THIS MIGHT HAPPEN.

WITH THE NEXT FIVE YEARS.

NONE OF IT MIGHT HAPPEN WITHIN THE NEXT FIVE YEARS.

>> THAT WOULD BE RIGHT IN HERE.

ALL THOSE PERMITS ARE EXPIRED.

THAT WOULD BE A GOOD EXAMPLE.

THEY HAVE ONE PERMIT OPEN, WHICH IS JUST FOR THEM TO FINISH THEIR MASS MOVEMENT OF EARTH AND STABILIZE THE SITE.

BUT ALL THEIR DISCRETIONARY PERMITS, THEY WERE LOOKING AT COMMERCIAL AND RESIDENTIAL THERE, THAT'S ALL EXPIRED.

THAT WAS A PERFECT EXAMPLE OF WHAT YUARI WAS JUST EXPLAINING. THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION.

WE OF COURSE, WE'RE PROBABLY LIKELY TO SEE SOME ADDITIONAL GROWTH ALONG PORTAL WAY.

AGAIN, THIS IS WHERE THE HOUSING IS.

A LOT OF THAT FUTURE EMPLOYMENT USE IS GOING TO BE UP NORTH AROUND GRANDVIEW, AND THEN SOME TO THE SOUTH AND EAST.

WE HAVE FUTURE GROWTH AREA THERE.

BUT THIS IS WHERE WE THINK A FAIR AMOUNT OF THE RESIDENTIAL GROWTH IS GOING TO OCCUR, AND LIKELY THIS GROWTH IS GOING TO BE AT A HIGHER DENSITY THAN WHAT WE'VE EXPERIENCED IN THE PAST IN TERMS OF EITHER BEING MULTI-FAMILY OR HIGHER DENSITY, SINGLE FAMILY DETACHED.

>> MICROPHONE?

>> YOU HEARD THAT, RIGHT?

>> BEFORE THE PEOPLE LISTENING ONLINE.

>> MY QUESTION WAS WITH THE DEVELOPMENT OF PORTAL WAY NORTH? WHAT WOULD WE INHERIT.

>> THAT'S COOL.

CURRENTLY, IT WOULD BE CASCADIA, WHICH IS FULL.

THAT'S PART OF THE COMPLICATION.

IS THAT WE HAVE NOT BEEN PLANNING FOR THOSE BOUNDARY CHANGES, GETTING THOSE NUMBERS AND BEING ABLE TO PREDICT THAT.

THAT'S WHY COMING TO THE TABLE IS SO IMPORTANT.

>> I JUST WANT TO MAKE A POINT OF THE COLLABORATION THAT WE'RE ESTABLISHING HERE IS SO IMPORTANT FOR US TO ACKNOWLEDGE FOR FUTURE REFERENCE ON THOSE PARTICULAR POINTS BECAUSE THIS HAS NEVER BEEN SOMETHING THAT HAS BEEN DISCUSSED IN PREVIOUS TIMES.

>> WELL, THE CURRENT BOARD MEMBERS, NONE OF YOU GUYS HAVE WENT THROUGH A BOUNDARY CHANGE.

IT'S NOT, WE JUST NEED TO PUT THIS MANY MORE STUDENTS.

WE JUST CHANGE THE LINE.

IT'S A WHOLE PROCESS.

THE PART THAT'S AMAZING IS HOW ATTACHED PEOPLE ARE TO THEIR SCHOOLS.

PARTICULARLY THOSE PEOPLE THAT HAVE BEEN IN A PARTICULAR AREA FOR A WHILE, AND YOU TELL THEM, WELL, JUST BECAUSE YOU WENT TO CASCADIA, DOESN'T MEAN YOUR CHILDREN ARE GOING TO OR A SCHOOL.

>> AS YOU WELL KNOW IN MY DISTRICT, YOU CAN APPRECIATE THE FACT, NORTH BELLINGHAM IS A VERY GOOD EXAMPLE.

>> PERFECT. IT IS.

>> DEMOGRAPHIC CHANGE THAT PEOPLE WENT THROUGH THAT WAS VERY HARD TO DIGEST.

>> ACTUALLY WAS ONE OF MY FIRST SCHOOL BOARD MEETINGS THAT I ATTENDED AS I WAS LOOKING TO GO ON TO THE SCHOOL BOARD AND I REMEMBER IT WELL, IT WAS QUITE HEATED.

>> THAT DEFINITELY PLAYS IN.

THE OTHER PART OF IT IS, IF YOU'VE GOT A SCHOOL THAT'S FULL, YOU'VE GOT BUSING ISSUES AND WE ALREADY HAVE TALKED ABOUT IN THE BUDGETING PROCESS, THAT TRANSPORTATION IS NOT FULLY FUNDED AND IF YOU ADD MORE TRANSPORTATION NEEDS, THEN YOU EXACERBATE YOUR BUDGET THAT MUCH MORE.

AGAIN, IT COMES TO THAT COLLABORATION AND PLANNING AND TRYING TO DO THINGS.

AS YOU SAY, NOT BUILD THE BRIDGE BEFORE YOU NEED IT, BUT NOT BUILD THE BRIDGE TOO LONG AFTER YOU NEED IT.

TRYING TO HIT IT RIGHT WHEN YOU NEED IT OPEN.

>> SOME OF IT THAT WE DO A TERRIBLE JOB AT IS WHAT ARE THE METRICS FOR GO? AT WHAT POINT IS IT WHEN WE GET A DEVELOPMENT PERMIT, WHERE THEN WE MAKE CHANGES AND THEN THE GOLF COURSE OF RIVERSIDE DOESN'T HAPPEN, YET WE'VE MADE ALL THESE CHANGES.

MAYBE WE COULD SAY THE SAME WITH HORIZON AND EAGLERIDGE, WHERE WE ANTICIPATED GROWTH THAT WASN'T YET READY.

DO WE WAIT TOO LONG WHERE ALL OF A SUDDEN, YOU HAVE THE KIDS WHO ARE ALREADY THERE.

IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT WE WOULD KNOW.

WE DO KNOW THOUGH THAT THE CITY HAS GROWN FASTER THAN ENROLLMENT HAS,

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AND SO UNDERSTANDING WHERE THOSE MECHANISMS ARE, AND I THINK, CONTINUING WITH THESE CONVERSATIONS, WHERE HEARING FROM THE SCHOOL DISTRICT, GOSH, MIKE, YOU'RE PROJECTING 2.4 PEOPLE FOR MULTIFAMILY HOUSEHOLD AND HEARING FROM THE DISTRICT, WE'RE ACTUALLY SEEING CLOSER TO THREE OR FOUR KIDS PRODUCED IN SOME OF THESE NEW AREAS.

WE CAN THEN CALIBRATE AS A COMMUNITY OUR ACTION.

>> IF YOU DON'T MIND, I THINK THAT'S BEEN THE GROWTH THAT WE HAVE MADE IN JUST EVEN THE LAST YEAR AND A HALF IS JUST SERVICES, ENROLLMENT, AND SO HAVING A BETTER UNDERSTANDING OF THE DIFFERENCE, UNDERSTANDING THE FUNDING, WATCHING JORI AND I TALK ABOUT.

WHILE THE LEGISLATION CLOSES, IT MIGHT HAVE BENEFITED THE CITY AND IT DIDN'T BENEFIT THE DISTRICT.

WHAT DOES THAT MEAN FOR THIS? GOING BACK TO THAT IDEA, SEEING SCHOOLS AS A KEY INFRASTRUCTURE, BECAUSE IF WE DON'T HAVE GOOD SCHOOLS, THEY'RE NOT GOING TO GET THE GROWTH.

VICE VERSA. IT'S A RECIPROCAL RELATIONSHIP THAT WE HAVE TO WORK TOGETHER.

>> THOSE EMPLOYERS THAT WE WANT, THAT WE TALKED ABOUT, THEY WANT TO KNOW THAT WE HAVE GOOD SCHOOLS, BEFORE THEY CITE THOSE JOBS HERE.

>> WHICH WE HAVE EXCELLENT SCHOOLS.

>> YES. ONE OF THE THINGS THE CITY OF FERNDALE HAS REALLY BEEN PUSHING HARD FOR WITH THE COUNTY IS WE'RE REQUIRED TO PLAN FOR A 20-YEAR PERIOD, BUT WE CAN PLAN BEYOND THAT.

USING THAT URBAN GROWTH AREA RESERVE, I THINK HELPS US.

WHAT I'VE SEEN, I USED TO LIVE AND WORK DOWN IN THE PORTLAND METRO AREA.

HAVING THAT 40-YEAR AREA THAT YOU KNOW YOU'RE GOING TO GROW INTO PROVIDES THE SCHOOL DISTRICT, THE FIRE DISTRICT BETTER OPPORTUNITIES TO LOOK FOR, UNDERSTAND WHEN YOU'RE GOING TO NEED TO ADD THAT SCHOOL, WHERE IT MAY NEED TO BE ADDED AND PICK THAT PROPERTY UP BEFORE IT IS READY FOR ANNEXATION.

IT'S MAYBE A LITTLE MORE AFFORDABLE TO YOU.

SOME OF THE SCHOOL DISTRICTS DOWN THERE LIKE THE HILLSBORO SCHOOL DISTRICT ARE VERY GOOD AT PLAYING CHESS ON THAT 40, 50-YEAR LANDSCAPE.

IF WE START IDENTIFYING WHERE WE'RE GOING TO GROW OVER THE NEXT 40 YEARS, THAT GIVES YOU A BETTER IDEA OF HOW AND WHERE YOU MAY WANT TO LOOK IN TERMS OF INVESTMENT IN LAND AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

I THINK IT'S A BENEFIT TO EVERYBODY.

PLUS, IT ALSO LETS THE PROPERTY OWNERS KNOW THIS LAND WILL EVENTUALLY BE IN.

THIS LAND MAY NOT. IT JUST MAKES SENSE.

>> I'M JUST GOING TO INTERRUPT HERE FOR A SECOND.

GREAT CONVERSATION AND I DON'T WANT TO STOP THAT BECAUSE I THINK WE'RE GETTING ON TO IDEALLY THE COLLABORATION THAT WE NEED TO.

I WAS JUST GOING TO LOOK AND WANTED TO GET THE BOARDS FEEL.

WE'VE BEEN GOING ON THIS CONVERSATION FOR ABOUT AN HOUR.

WE COULD PROBABLY GO ON FOR QUITE A WHILE.

I'M NOT SURE WHAT THE SLIDE DECK LOOKS LIKE THAT YOU'VE GOT, MIKE.

>> WE'RE ALMOST THERE. I PROBABLY HAVE THREE SLIDES.

>> THEN WE'LL KEEP ON GOING BECAUSE THE OTHER THING IS THIS NEEDS TO BE IN MY MIND, AN ONGOING CONVERSATION.

IF THERE WAS A LOT, I WAS GOING TO SAY, HEY, WE COULD BREAK AND RECONVENE AT ANOTHER TIME OR WE'LL FINISH UP AND THEN WE'LL PLAN ANOTHER MEETING AS WELL.

>> I'M MORE THAN HAPPY TO COME AND TALK TO YOU ABOUT PLANNING ANYTIME YOU WANT ME TO.

I'M SURE HE WOULD COME WITH ME AS WELL.

MY LAST TOPIC I'VE GOT HERE IS JUST WE HAVE THIS DOCUMENT CALLED THE ANNEXATION BLUEPRINT.

IF YOU'RE WONDERING, WHERE ARE WE GOING TO GROW? WHERE'S THE NEXT PIECE OF LAND THAT'S GOING TO COME INTO FERNDALE? WE HAVE A DOCUMENT THAT IDENTIFIES THAT.

REALLY WHAT IT DOES IS IT DOES EXACTLY WHAT YOU TALKED ABOUT.

WHERE ARE WE LIKELY TO EXTEND WATER AND SEWER? WHAT IMPROVEMENTS NEED TO BE IN PLACE BEFORE WE ANNEX THIS AREA? IT MAPS IT ALL OUT THERE.

IT MAPS IT OUT THERE FOR COMMUNITY MEMBERS, IT MAPS IT OUT THERE FOR DEVELOPERS, FOR THE SCHOOL DISTRICT, FOR EVERYBODY.

IT'S PRETTY NEAT DOCUMENT.

I WILL BE UPDATING THIS STARTING NEXT YEAR AFTER WE'RE DONE DOING ALL THE STUFF THE STATE IS MAKING ME DO.

WE'RE ALSO HOPING TO UPDATE THE PARKS MASTER PLAN NEXT YEAR AS WELL STARTING.

YOU CAN LOOK AT THESE SLIDES.

I'LL SEND THEM TO YOU, BUT IT JUST INVENTORIES WHAT THAT ANNEXATION BLUEPRINT IS.

IT'S PRETTY COOL DOCUMENT.

JORI AND I WERE JUST DOWN AT THE STATE LEGISLATURE EXPLAINING THIS DOCUMENT TO THEM AND HOW IT'S A BENEFIT TO OUR COMMUNITY. GREEN YELLOW, RED.

GREEN IS READY TO GO RIGHT OFF THE BAT WHEN WE PASS THIS.

THAT WAS SHORT-TERM ANNEXATION AREAS.

THEY WERE AVAILABLE TO ANNEX.

YELLOW WAS MORE MIDTERM, WHICH IS WHERE WE'RE AT NOW TOWARDS THE END OF THAT.

THEN THE RED WERE, HEY, THIS IS MORE OF A LONG-TERM WITHIN THAT 20-YEAR PERIOD.

>> MIKE'S PRETTY MODEST.

I THINK THAT WE HAVE A FANTASTIC SCHOOL DISTRICT. ABSOLUTELY DO.

I THINK THAT WE HAVE A FANTASTIC PLANNING DEPARTMENT WHERE FERNDALE IS DOING IT BETTER THAN MOST.

THAT'S NOT JUST SHINING US ON WE'RE FERNDALE.

WE ARE COMPARED TO MOST OTHER JURISDICTIONS,

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MOST OTHER COMMUNITIES AHEAD OF THE GAME.

I CAN SPEAK FOR THE CITY.

THAT'S WHY WE'RE INVITED TO SPEAK TO OTHER COMMUNITIES AND TO THE STATE LEGISLATURE ABOUT WHAT'S POSSIBLE.

THERE'S A LOT OF GROWTH THAT'S COMING OUR WAY AND THERE'S A LOT OF CHANGE, BUT I DON'T THINK THAT THERE'S, HONESTLY, ANY OTHER COMMUNITY IN WASHINGTON THAT IS AS READY FOR AS WE ARE.

NOT THAT IT MAKES IT LESS SCARY, BUT WITH THE PEOPLE IN THIS ROOM TO DEAL WITH IT, I'M ABSOLUTELY CONVINCED OF THAT.

>> THAT'S THAT. THEN I'LL FORWARD THIS ONTO YOU AND I ALWAYS PUT EXTRA SLIDES IN THERE IN CASE YOU GUYS TRY AND STUMP ME.

THERE'S STUFF IN HERE ABOUT WHY WE'RE GOING TO EXPERIENCE THIS GROWTH.

THIS IS THE LIST OF ALL THE THINGS WE'VE DONE TO PREPARE. GETTING AT YOUR POINT.

WE'VE GOT THINGS THAT WE'RE CURRENTLY IN PROCESS.

IF YOU WANT TO KNOW HOW WE STACK UP AND WHAT OUR GROWTH LOOKS LIKE COMPARED TO THE REST OF THE COUNTY, YOU'VE GOT INFORMATION ON THAT HERE.

THEN YOU HAVE INFORMATION HOUSING INCOME.

THAT'S THE DIFFERENT TYPE OF INCOME PLANS THAT WE NEED.

BUT I'LL FORWARD THAT ON, MAKE SURE CHRIS GETS THAT AND SHE CAN SHARE THAT WITH YOU.

WE CAN ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU GUYS HAVE OR LET YOU MOVE ON TO YOUR NEXT AGENDA ITEM.

>> I UNDERSTAND NANCY HAS A QUESTION.

>> I WAS JUST WONDERING IF THE CONSTRUCTION OF THE JAIL IMPACTS ALL THE CITY OF FERNDALE'S BOTTOM LINE.

>> FIRST OFF, IF YOU ARE IN HAWAII, I HOPE THAT YOU'RE AWARE OF THE EARTHQUAKE IN RUSSIA.

SECOND, YES, THE JAIL AS ORIGINALLY PROPOSED IN ABOUT 10 YEARS AGO, WHERE THERE WAS A COMPLETE FISCAL IMPACT ANALYSIS DONE AND WE WOULD ANTICIPATE THAT THERE WOULD BE A REANALYSIS DONE NOW.

THE CITY ITSELF, C CITY, WOULD ACTUALLY COME OUT AHEAD.

PRIMARILY BECAUSE WE WOULD GET INITIAL SALES TAX DURING CONSTRUCTION, AND THEN WE WOULD GET ONGOING SALES TAX FOR ONGOING OPERATIONS ASSOCIATED WITH THE JAIL.

PLUS SOME NON-QUANTIFIABLE BENEFITS.

WE WOULD CONTINUE TO HAVE MORE LAW ENFORCEMENT IN TOWN, WHICH GENERALLY TENDS TO SUPPRESS CRIME.

PLUS WE WOULD HAVE SOME ADDITIONAL COMMERCE THAT HAPPENS AS A RESULT OF THE EMPLOYEES THERE.

FINALLY, A CONDITION THAT WE PLACED ON THE ORIGINAL JAIL, AND I THINK THAT WE WOULD ANTICIPATE PLACING FUTURE JAIL OR THE PROPOSED JAIL WOULD BE A MITIGATION OR PROHIBITION LIMITATION ON PRISONERS BEING RELEASED INTO FERNDALE.

INSTEAD, I THINK THAT WE WOULD EXPECT TO HAVE A CONDITION SAYING THAT PRISONERS WOULD BE RELEASED INTO BELLINGHAM UNLESS THEY ARE PICKED UP DIRECTLY BY FAMILY MEMBERS OR OTHERS, WHICH WAS PERCEIVED NEGATIVE IMPACT.

DOES THAT ANSWER YOUR QUESTION?

>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I APPRECIATE THAT.

I SURE HOPE IT RESULTS IN MORE LARGER POLICE FORCE IN FERNDALE.

THAT WOULD BE GOOD.

>> THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU.

>> ONE OTHER COMMENT I SAW ON SOCIAL MEDIA, WHICH IS EVERYBODY'S FRIEND.

BUT SOMEBODY COMMENTED THAT THEY WERE ENCOURAGING PEOPLE NOT TO VOTE FOR FERNDALE SCHOOL LEVIES UNTIL FERNDALE'S WATER AND STREETS AND STUFF WERE PICKED UP.

AGAIN, I THINK THAT GOES AGAIN TO THAT COLLABORATION.

WE NEED TO GET THE MESSAGE OUT THERE OF WHO'S RESPONSIBLE FOR WHAT, BUT AT THE SAME TIME THAT WE'RE WORKING TOGETHER.

I THINK IT'S GREAT AS YOU MENTIONED, THE CONVERSATION ABOUT, WHY IS THE CITY BUILD A PARK RIGHT NEXT TO A SCHOOL PLAYGROUND? WHY DON'T WE ENHANCE BOTH OF THEM, GET THE MAXIMUM USE OUT OF IT AND SAVE OUR TAXPAYERS' DOLLARS AND GET A BETTER BANG FOR OUR BUCK.

>> IN TERMS OF WATER, MAYBE THINK OF IT LIKE GAS.

GOSH, I COULD GO PEDAL TO THE METAL FROM HERE TO BELLINGHAM.

I BURN A LOT OF GAS UNNECESSARILY.

I'M PROBABLY GOING TO SAVE MAYBE 30 SECONDS AND THEN GIVEN THE ADDITIONAL POLICE OFFICERS IN FERNDALE, PROBABLY PAY A HEFTY TICKET.

THE IDEA OF HAVING TO CONSERVE WATER, ESPECIALLY GIVEN THE UNCERTAINTIES THAT WE HAVE WITH A WHOLE LOT OF THINGS, MAKES SENSE.

IT IS NOT BECAUSE OF A SHORTAGE OF WATER.

I JUST READ AN ANALYSIS RELATED TO OUR WELLS.

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ABOUT 15 YEARS AGO, WE WERE ON NOOKSACK RIVER WATER THROUGH THE PUD.

WE KNOW THAT MOUNT BAKER AS A SUSTAINABLE FOREVER RESOURCE FOR WATER IS MORE QUESTIONABLE THAN IT USED TO BE, AND THAT WE'RE HAVING MORE SIGNIFICANT LOWS IN THE NOOKSACK DURING THE SUMMER.

OBVIOUSLY, WE'RE HAVING MORE SIGNIFICANT HIGHS IN THE NOOKSACK DURING FLOOD SEASON AS WELL.

WE TRANSITIONED TO WELLS.

THAT TRANSITION WAS DIFFICULT BECAUSE WE MADE IT MORE SUDDEN THAN WE OUGHT TO HAVE.

WE NOW HAVE A MIX OF A PORTFOLIO IN OUR WELLS.

ABOUT 10 OR SO YEARS AGO, WE SAW THAT THE WELLS CAPACITY TO RESTORE THEMSELVES WERE DIMINISHED.

WE ALSO SAW THAT THE IMPACTS ON NEIGHBORING WELLS WATER ASSOCIATIONS WAS MORE SIGNIFICANTLY IMPACT AND THOSE WERE BEING DIMINISHED.

OVER THE LAST FIVE YEARS, ESPECIALLY WITH OUR DRILLING INTO THE DEEPWATER WELL, WHICH IS LESS HYDROLOGICALLY CONNECTED TO THE NOOKSACK RIVER AND NOT HYDROLOGICALLY CONNECTED TO THE UPPER AQUIFERS, WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO GET A SUSTAINABLE LEVEL WHERE THE DRAWDOWNS ON THOSE WELLS ARE NOW SUSTAINABLE, WE BELIEVE.

IT DOESN'T MEAN THAT IF WE HAD WATER FALLING EVERY DAY THAT IT WOULDN'T STILL BE BEST PRACTICES TO HAVE WATER CONSERVATION MEASURES.

BUT ATTACHING WATER CONSERVATION TO WATER SHORTAGE IS CONFLATING TWO DIFFERENT IDEAS.

THE OTHER QUESTION HAD TO DO WITH TRANSPORTATION, WHERE THAT'S WHERE WE DO NEED TO LOOK FURTHER OUT AND TO BE ABLE TO ARTICULATE IN OUR SIX-YEAR PLAN, NOT ONLY THE PROJECTS THAT ARE NECESSARY, BUT TO HAVE THE KEY PERFORMANCE INDICATORS TO LET US KNOW WHEN TO GO.

OVER THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS, WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO INSTALL A NEW WAY OF THINKING WITHIN OUR FINANCE DEPARTMENT, WHERE WHAT WE ARE DOING IS WE'RE TRYING AS BEST WE CAN TO HAVE THE MONEY READY TO GO, WHEN THE NEED FOR THAT DEVELOPMENT IS THERE.

RATHER THAN OUR PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT SAY TO OUR FINANCE DEPARTMENT, HEY, I NEED TO BUILD SOMETHING NEXT YEAR.

OUR FINANCE DEPARTMENT IS ACTUALLY ONE OF THE, WHAT DID THEY SAY? TOP 1%, TOP 3% IN THE STATE, IN TERMS OF USING LONG-TERM INVESTMENTS TO CONTINUE TO RAISE MONEY WHERE THOSE LONG-TERM INVESTMENTS COME DUE AT THE SAME TIME AS WE'RE READY TO GO.

THAT PUTS US AGAIN IN THE TOP 99% OF THE ENTIRE STATE AS FAR AS BEING READY.

WE HAVEN'T ALWAYS BEEN READY IN THE PAST, BUT WE ARE SO MUCH SMARTER THAN WE USED TO BE, AND ALL OF OUR DEPARTMENTS ARE WORKING TOGETHER MUCH MORE.

>> I'LL JUST PUT IT REALLY SUCCINCTLY.

IF WE WANT TO BE ABLE TO WATER EVERY DAY, WE NEED TO HAVE MORE WATER STORAGE, IT COSTS MORE MONEY.

IT'S A DELIBERATE DECISION ON THE CITY'S PART.

WE'RE NOT SAYING YOU HAVE TO WATER EVERY OTHER DAY BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE WATER AND THE WELLS ARE DRY.

IT'S A DELIBERATE DECISION MADE.

SAME WITH TRANSPORTATION.

HOW LONG YOU SIT AT A LIGHT.

YOU DON'T WANT TO SIT AT A LIGHT FOR A FULL CYCLE OR TWO CYCLES.

WE CAN CHANGE THAT, BUT IT COSTS A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF MONEY TO MITIGATE THAT.

YOU CAN THINK ABOUT IN TERMS OF DRIVING AROUND IN THE STATE OF WASHINGTON AND THEN GO DOWN TO ARIZONA.

ARIZONA HAS DUAL LEFTS AT EVERY INTERSECTION.

IT ALL COSTS MONEY, THOUGH, AND WE'RE NOT GOING TO GET THAT MONEY FROM THE STATE, SO THAT MONEY IS GOING TO HAVE TO COME FROM A COMBINATION OF TAXPAYERS AND THEN TAXING NEW DEVELOPMENT TO PAY FOR THAT.

IT'S PRETTY COMMON THE ODD DAY WATERING ALL THE JURISDICTIONS I'VE WORKED AT.

>> ANY OTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS? THANK YOU, GENTLEMEN. APPRECIATE THIS.

AGAIN, I THINK IT'S A GOOD START OR SOMETHING TO CONTINUE HAVING THE COLLABORATION, HEARING WHAT'S GOING ON BECAUSE AS WE'VE SAID, WHAT YOU GUYS DO AFFECTS US, WHAT WE DO AFFECTS YOU, AND WORKING TOGETHER MAKES THE MOST SENSE. THANK YOU.

>> ALOHA.

>> THANK YOU. DON'T FORGET YOUR LITTLE TREAT THERE.

>> CHRIS, WHEN YOU GET THOSE SLIDES, WILL YOU PUT THEM ON BOARD DOCS, SO IF ANYBODY ELSE WANTS TO LOOK AT THEM? COOL. I JUST TALKED WITH CHRIS AND FOR THOSE THAT ARE EITHER IN THE AUDIENCE OR WATCHING, IF YOU'RE WANTING TO SEE THE SLIDES THAT THEY PRESENTED, WE WILL GET THOSE ATTACHED TO BOARD DOC SO THEY'LL

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BE AVAILABLE FOR THE PUBLIC TO LOOK AT AS WELL.

WITH THAT, I WILL TURN IT OVER TO KRISTI FOR HER SUPERINTENDENT SHARING.

[6. SHARING [GC-7.E.]]

>> WE'RE GOING TO TRANSITION HERE.

SELINA IS NOT WITH US, BUT SHE IS LOGGED IN AND MANAGING MY PRESENTATION FROM AFAR.

I'M GOING TO BE QUICK THIS EVENING, JUST FOR TIME'S SAKE, AND IT'S ALSO SUMMER.

>> I'M GOING TO GO AHEAD AND LOOK AT MY PRESENTATION HERE.

KRISTI, YOU HAVE A COPY OF IT? JUST A FEW THINGS TO TALK ABOUT TONIGHT, LIKE I SAID, WE HAVE BACK-TO-SCHOOL INFORMATION.

PEOPLE CAN FIND THAT ONLINE.

THE SCHOOL SUPPLIES LIST IS OUT, AND I'M ACTUALLY REALLY LOVING FOLLOWING THE CONVERSATIONS HAPPENING ON SOCIAL MEDIA ABOUT IT.

A LOT OF CONVERSATION ABOUT SHARED SUPPLIES VERSUS NOT SHARED SUPPLIES.

ANYWAY, I'M MONITORING ALL THAT.

BUT JUST KNOW THAT IF ANYONE HAS ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT HOW DO I REGISTER MY CHILD? HOW DO I GET THERE? WHEN DO I MEET THINGS? IF THEY CANNOT FIND IT, THEY CAN CALL THE DISTRICT OFFICE, AND WE'RE READY TO HELP.

HERE WE GO. CRYSTALS GO TO THE TECHNOLOGY.

SLIDE ON NUMBER 3.

ONE OF OUR MOVES IN TERMS OF BUDGET SAVINGS WAS, IF YOU RECALL, WE LOOKED AT OUR ADMINISTRATIVE COSTS ALONG WITH EVERY OTHER DEPARTMENT.

ONE OF THE POSITIONS THAT WE REDUCED WAS THE DIRECTOR OF TECHNOLOGY.

WHAT I AM DOING THIS COMING YEAR IS I WILL BE SUPPORTING TECHNOLOGY.

I'M WORKING CLOSELY WITH JAMIE'S TAKING ON THE FACILITY SIDE OF THE HOUSE.

I'M GOING TO BE WORKING WITH TEACHING AND LEARNING AROUND THE TEACHING AND LEARNING SIDE, BUT I'M MEETING WITH THE TECH DEPARTMENT TO LEARN AND UNDERSTAND MORE, AND SO THEN I WILL BE ABLE TO DETERMINE WHAT THE NEXT STEPS ARE FOR OUR TEAM.

WE HAVE JUST THE MOST AMAZING TEAM, AND I JUST WANT TO SHOUT OUT.

THE PUBLIC PROBABLY DOESN'T KNOW, BUT WE HAVE SOMEONE FROM THE TECH TEAM COME TO EVERY SINGLE BOARD MEETING TO HELP US AND TONIGHT WE HAVE BRYCE IN THE BACK.

I APPRECIATE THEM, BUT ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I LEARNED THIS LAST TIME THAT I MET WITH THEM WAS, AND PEGGY, YOU HAD ASKED ABOUT THIS, WAS THE INSURANCE.

PEOPLE PAY INSURANCE.

THEY GET A DEVICE, AND THEN THEY PAY THIS INSURANCE COST.

IF SOMETHING HAPPENS, ACCIDENTS HAPPEN, THEN THEY CAN GET A NEW DEVICE.

WHAT WE'RE FINDING, THOUGH, IS WE HAVE A LOT OF INTENTIONAL DAMAGE HAPPENING.

FOR EXAMPLE, ONE OF THE COMPUTERS THAT GOT TURNED IN, STUDENT HAD PAINTED ALL THE KEYS WITH WIDE OUT.

THAT'S VANDALISM.

THAT IS VERY DIFFERENT.

WHAT I'VE ASKED THE TECH TEAM TO DO, THEY'RE COLLECTING DATA, SO I'LL BE ABLE TO SHARE THAT WITH YOU IS WHAT IS IT ACTUALLY COSTING TO REPAIR OR REPLACE DEVICES? WE SHOULD NOT BE REPLACING DEVICES THAT WERE DAMAGED DUE TO VANDALISM.

THAT IS VERY DIFFERENT.

WE ARE GOING TO BE TAKING A VERY DIFFERENT STANCE THIS COMING YEAR, THAT IF A STUDENT INTENTIONALLY DAMAGES A DEVICE, THAT GOES INTO DISCIPLINARY ACTION.

ACCIDENTS HAPPEN, SOMETHING, WHATEVER WATER GETS SPILLED ON IT.

I'M GOING TO BE DOING SOME WORK IN TERMS OF SENDING OUT COMMUNICATION TO FAMILIES ABOUT, PLEASE, WE DON'T EAT OR DRINK AROUND DEVICES OR WHATEVER IT IS.

I JUST WANT TO MAKE YOU AWARE THAT THAT'S GOING TO BE A SHIFT.

I'M WORKING WITH THE TECH TEAM.

I'LL BE WORKING WITH PRINCIPALS.

I'M WORKING WITH KELLY AND TRINA, THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE TAKING A MUCH HARSHER STANCE NEXT YEAR IN TERMS OF HOW WE TREAT THE DEVICES AND WHICH DEVICES WILL BE REPLACED, AND IF THEY DON'T FALL UNDER THE INSURANCE, WHAT WILL THE STEPS BE? ANYWAY, WE ARE ALSO LOOKING AT WHAT LEVEL ARE WE SEEING MORE DAMAGE.

AT THIS TIME, IT'S THE MIDDLE SCHOOL LEVEL IS WHERE THERE WAS AN UPTICK.

IF YOU REMEMBER EARLIER THIS YEAR, I SENT YOU AN EMAIL ABOUT TIKTOK CHALLENGES WHERE STUDENTS WERE BEING CHALLENGED TO DAMAGE DEVICES.

ANYWAY, MORE TO COME, I WANT TO GIVE YOU AND OUR COMMUNITY A HEADS UP THAT WE'RE TAKING A DIFFERENT APPROACH THIS COMING YEAR.

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I WOULD LIKE TO INVITE YOU TO THE STAFF KICKOFF.

MY VERY FIRST YEAR, IF YOU REMEMBER, I IMPLEMENTED THE DAY BEFORE SCHOOL STARTS.

WE COME TOGETHER FOR ONE HOUR, WHERE IT'S EVERYBODY IN THE DISTRICT.

I'D LOVE TO HAVE BOARD MEMBERS THERE.

IT'S ON AUGUST 26TH AT 8:30.

WE HAVE OUR TWO MCS.

I DON'T EVEN KNOW IF THEY KNOW THEY'RE MCING THAT, BUT THEY'RE SEEING THAT.

WE HAVE A STAFF SPEAKER, WE'LL HAVE A STUDENT SPEAKER, AND THEN A KICKOFF MESSAGE.

I JUST WANT TO GET THAT ON YOUR RADAR.

THEN I'M GOING TO TURN IT OVER TO OUR AMAZING STUDENT REPS.

>> I DON'T REALLY KNOW IF THERE'S ANYTHING TO SAY, GUYS, IT'S SUMMER.

I DON'T GET NEAR THE SCHOOLS OR ANYTHING DURING THE SUMMER BECAUSE I NEED MY BREAK.

BUT SPORTS. THEY'VE BEEN GOING ON.

I KNOW MARCUS HAS PROBABLY SOMETHING TO SAY BECAUSE I KNOW VOLLEYBALL, I THINK THEY HAVE A TOURNAMENT HERE IN FERNDALE TODAY, SO THAT'S REALLY AWESOME.

I WENT TO STANWOOD YESTERDAY TO GO WATCH THEM, AND THEY'RE LOOKING REALLY GOOD.

I'M VERY EXCITED FOR FALL SPORTS BECAUSE FRIDAY NIGHT LIGHTS, ALL OF THAT, IT'S JUST AWESOME.

FRESHMAN ORIENTATION.

I'VE HEARD A LOT OF THINGS ABOUT THAT FROM THE LEADERSHIP PROGRAM AT THE HIGH SCHOOL.

THAT'S LOOKING GOOD.

AUGUST IS SCHOOL.

I'M JUST PREPARING MYSELF ALREADY.

ONCE JULY IS OVER, I'M BACK IN THE SCHOOL MINDSET.

THE WHOLE TECH THING THAT YOU JUST TALKED ABOUT.

[NOISE] WELL, I WAS JUST GOING TO SAY, IT'S ABOUT TIME.

I FEEL LIKE THAT WE ARE CRACKING DOWN ON THE CHROMEBOOK SITUATION BECAUSE I DON'T EVEN KNOW HOW SOME STUDENTS CAN BRING THEMSELVES TO VANDALIZE IT, BECAUSE MY CHROMEBOOK AND I, WE ARE SO CLOSE.

ME AND MY FRIENDS WERE ALWAYS LIKE, BE CAREFUL.

MY CHROMEBOOK IS IN MY BACKPACK.

THIS THING HAS BEEN WITH ME SINCE EIGHTH GRADE, I THINK.

I'VE HAD THE SAME ONES THROUGHOUT ALL OF HIGH SCHOOL.

WE ARE CLOSE, AND SHE HAS BEEN THROUGH A LOT, BUT I TAKE VERY GOOD CARE OF HER.

DON'T WORRY. I KNOW A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO DO, AND WE PRIDE OURSELVES ON IT.

WHEN I SEE KIDS IN OUR CLASS WHO ARE SMACKING THEM DOWN, I'M LIKE, YOU KNOW WHAT? YOU'RE GOING TO GET WHAT'S COMING TO YOU.

THOSE POOR COMPUTERS.

I'M GLAD THAT WE'RE DOING THAT.

BUT OVERALL, I DON'T REALLY HAVE ANYTHING ELSE TO SAY.

I GOT MY WISDOM TEETH REMOVED LAST WEEK.

ALL I'M GOING TO SAY IS IF I SEE MASHED POTATOES, A SMOOTHIE YOGURT FOR THE NEXT FEW MONTHS, I'M RUNNING IN THE OPPOSITE DIRECTION BECAUSE IN ALL 17 YEARS IN MY LIFE, THIS HAS BEEN THE MOST INTERESTING WEEK OF MY LIFE.

I HAVE NEVER FELT SO MUCH PAIN AND DISCOMFORT.

I WASN'T EVEN UNDER ANESTHESIA.

I WAS JUST NUMBED, AND WHEN THEY TOOK IT OUT THE FIRST TIME, I WAS NOT NUMBED CORRECTLY.

I HAVE JUST NEVER FELT THIS WAY BEFORE. BUT YOU KNOW WHAT? I DIDN'T EVEN GET ANY SWELLING, SO I GUESS IT'S FINE. THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO SAY.

>> HARLEEN MADE A POINT ABOUT SPORTS, SPORTS, OUR VOLLEYBALL TEAM IS LOOKING GREAT.

WE'RE WINNING A LOT, AND OBVIOUSLY, IT'S STILL THE BEGINNING OF THE SEASON, SO WE STILL HAVE A LOT OF WORK TO DO.

BUT IT'S LOOKING GREAT IN GENERAL.

I KNOW FOOTBALL IS HAVING A LOT OF PRACTICES.

WE HAVE OPEN GYMS FOR VOLLEYBALL IN THE MORNING, WE ALWAYS SEE ALL THE FOOTBALL PLAYERS A ONCE WE GET THERE.

THE WHOLE THING WITH THE LAPTOPS.

I FEEL LIKE PEOPLE, ESPECIALLY AT OUR AGE, THEY DON'T REALLY CARE BECAUSE IT'S MORE LIKE MY PARENTS DIDN'T BUY IT, IT'S NOT MY MONEY THAT'S BEING USED.

IT'S JUST LIKE PEOPLE DON'T CARE AS MUCH ABOUT THEIR LAPTOPS, BUT WHEN IT COMES TO PHONES, YOU TAKE IT AWAY FOR A DAY, EVERYBODY FREAKS OUT.

I FEEL LIKE THAT'S JUST LIKE A MINDSET THAT PEOPLE HAVE, WHERE IT'S LIKE IT'S NOT MINE.

WHY WOULD I HAVE TO TAKE CARE OF IT AND STUFF LIKE THAT? BUT PERSONALLY, I HAVE VOLLEYBALL TRYOUTS TOMORROW FOR APEX.

I'M QUITE EXCITED FOR THAT.

WE DO ACTUALLY NEED MORE PEOPLE TO PLAY.

WE HAVE A GOOD AMOUNT, BUT WE COULD ALWAYS USE MORE.

IF YOU GUYS KNOW ANYONE THAT WANTS TO PLAY VOLLEYBALL, THAT'S A JUNIOR OR A SENIOR, OR IN HIGH SCHOOL, PLEASE LET ME KNOW.

BUT THAT'S PRETTY MUCH IT.

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>> THANK YOU, KRISTI, HARLEEN, AND MARCUS.

MOVING ON, WE'RE GOING TO GO INTO OUR UPDATES,

[7. UPDATES]

AND FIRST ON THE DOCKET IS A FACILITIES UPDATE.

WE'LL INVITE JAMIE TO JOIN US AND SEE HOW HIS SLIDE PRESENTATION COMPARES WITH THE CITY OF FERNDALE.

[LAUGHTER]

>> IF YOU GIVE ME A MINUTE, WE'LL GET SET UP HERE.

I HAVE TO MUTE IT.

I DON'T WANT TO JOIN WITH COMPUTER AUDIO. HOW DO I DO IT WITHOUT? I KNOW. [LAUGHTER] THIS IS A LOT OF PRESSURE.

>> THAT WAS GOOD, STU.

GOT TO KEEP IT LIGHT. IT'S JULY.

>> IT'S JULY, AND YOU GUYS HAVE BEEN HERE FOR A LONG TIME ALREADY.

>> I DON'T KNOW ABOUT YOU GUYS, BUT IT'S A LITTLE STUFFY IN HERE.

>> IT IS THAT, TOO.

NOW I'M SHARING THAT ONE AND SWITCH BETWEEN SCREENS SO I CAN DO THAT.

>> WE HAVE CONQUERED TECHNOLOGY.

>> HOW ABOUT THAT? I'M HELPING WITH TECH.

>> YOU AND ME BOTH. WE'RE GOING TO LEARN HOW TO TURN ON DEVICES.

>> I ASKED TO GIVE A LITTLE BIT OF UPDATE ON MAINTENANCE DEPARTMENT.

I JUST WENT THROUGH A COUPLE OF THINGS, JUST 2025 HIGHLIGHTS AND PROGRESS.

WE ALL KNOW A FEW MONTHS AGO, WHEN I CAME AND TALKED ABOUT OUR NEW ASSET ESSENTIALS, WHICH IS OUR MAINTENANCE TICKETING AND MAINTENANCE TRACKING SYSTEM.

UPDATING THAT, WE'RE FULLY IMPLEMENTED AND ACTIVELY AND USED BY ALL MAINTENANCE STAFF, AND IF YOU THINK I'M POOR AT TECHNOLOGY, WE'VE GOT SOME GUYS THAT TOOK A WHILE TO GET THEM ON BOARD AND TURNING OVER FROM WHAT WE USED TO DO.

OBVIOUSLY, THE PLUSES WERE WAS A MUCH MORE BIGGER PROGRAM THAT ALLOWS US TO PROVIDE REAL-TIME TRACKING AND MANAGEMENT OF OUR MAINTENANCE WORK ORDERS WITH SOME BETTER REPORTING.

LIKE I SAID, A BETTER TRACKING OF OUR TIME.

ONE OF OUR CHALLENGES WAS TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE BEING EFFICIENT IN OUR WORK.

WE'VE HAD ALONG WITH US WITH A NEW SOFTWARE WAS REALLY A GOOD TIME TO TRY TO MAKE SOME SUBTLE CHANGES IN HOW WE DID THINGS.

THAT I FEEL LIKE NOW, IN SIX MONTHS IN, WE'RE SEEING SOME POSITIVES OUT OF THAT.

WE'RE STILL NOT 100% WITH GUYS USING ONE OF THE PROBLEMS IS WHEN YOU'RE ASSIGNED A WORK ORDER WITH ANOTHER PERSON.

IT'S A TWO-MAN WORK ORDER.

ACCOUNTING FOR THAT SECOND PERSON'S TIME ISN'T EXACTLY EASY ON THE SYSTEM, SO WE STILL HAVE SOME HOLES THERE THAT WILL HAVE TO CLOSE UP TO GET REALLY ACCURATE REPORTING MOVING FORWARD.

THE OTHER BIG ONE THAT WE UNDERTOOK WITH HELP FROM A LOT OF THE AAS AND TAMMY LONGSTAFF IS UPDATING OUR EVENT MANAGER SOFTWARE.

THIS IS FROM THE SAME BRIGHTLY COMPANY, WE BOUGHT THIS IN TANDEM WITH THE MAINTENANCE SOFTWARE AS WELL AS THE EVENT MANAGER.

[01:55:07]

WE HAD A LOT OF HOLES AND RENTALS, AND THE BUILDINGS DOING DIFFERENT THINGS, BUILDING BY BUILDING WITH WHO THEY'RE RENTING TO, WHAT THEY'RE RENTING IT FOR, KNOWING WHAT'S GOING ON IN THE DISTRICT.

I COULDN'T LOOK AT ONE THING AND BE ABLE TO SEE A DISTRICT-WIDE.

HERE'S WHAT WE'VE GOT GOING ON AT OUR FACILITIES TODAY.

THIS SOFTWARE IS BRINGING EVERYTHING UNDER ONE ROOF.

WE GOT IT RUNNING AT THE HIGH SCHOOL WAS THE FIRST AND BIGGEST USER.

WE HAVE THE MOST USAGE AT THAT FACILITY, WITH JUST SPORTS AND EVENTS, AND OUTSIDE RENTALS.

THEY WERE REALLY INVOLVED IN GETTING THIS OFF THE GROUND, AND THE REST OF THE BUILDINGS WILL BE ROLLED OUT THIS FALL.

ANOTHER THING ON THE AA'S PLATE.

IT ALLOWS US, LIKE I SAID, FACILITY SCHEDULING, RENTAL COORDINATION, AND A BILLING PROCESS THAT ONE OF THE THINGS WE WENT THROUGH, WHICH DIDN'T THINK WAS GOING TO BE THAT DIFFICULT WAS JUST FIGURING OUT THE FEE STRUCTURE, SOMETHING THAT WE WILL BE BRINGING TO YOU TO LOOK AT AS WELL.

THERE'S LOTS OF LITTLE NUANCES WHEN YOU THINK THAT YOU HAVE IT FIGURED OUT, FOR HERE'S WHAT WE SHOULD CHARGE.

DIFFERENT GROUPS, WHETHER YOU'RE A NONPROFIT, WHETHER YOU'RE FOR A PROFIT, WHETHER YOU'RE IN HOUSE SCHOOL, WHETHER YOU AN AU BASKETBALL TEAM THAT HAS PEOPLE FROM OUTSIDE OUR COMMUNITY PARTICIPATING, HOW DO WE STRUCTURE ALL THAT AND MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE LEAST GETTING THE COSTS OF WHAT IT IS TO USE OUR FACILITY AND AT SOME POINT REPLACE SOME OF THE COMPONENTS OF IT WHILE GIVING OUR FERNDALE KIDS AN OPPORTUNITY TO DO ALL THE THINGS THAT WE OFFER.

THERE'S SOME HICCUPS THERE THAT WE STILL HAVE TO IRON OUT AS FAR AS THE FEE STRUCTURE, BUT THAT'S GOING TO BE A HUGE PLUS TO HAVE EVERYTHING, LIKE I SAID, UNDER ONE ROOF.

THERE'S LOTS OF LITTLE STUFF OF EVERY ROOM THAT CAN BE RENTED HAS TO GET ON THE SOFTWARE, DO WE HAVE TABLES, EVERYTHING THAT GOES INTO GETTING THAT UP AND RUNNING, AND WE HADN'T HAD THAT BEFORE.

>> A LOT OF LEARNING THERE, GOING WITH, LIKE I SAID, THE MAINTENANCE, THE OPPORTUNITY WITH ASSET ESSENTIALS AND SAYING THAT WE NEEDED TO DO A BETTER JOB TRACKING WHAT WE'RE DOING TO SHOW WHAT IS THE STAFFING WE NEED MOVING FORWARD AS WE TRY TO MOVE TOWARDS A MORE PREVENTATIVE MAINTENANCE PLAN.

WE DIDN'T HAVE GOOD ENOUGH DATA TO SAY, HERE'S WHAT WE'RE DOING ON A DAY TO DAY BASIS.

THIS IS MAYBE WHY WE'LL NEED MORE PEOPLE MOVING FORWARD AS WE TRY TO CHANGE FROM JUST REACTIONARY MAINTENANCE TO BEING MORE PREVENTATIVE MAINTENANCE ORIENTED.

YOU'LL SEE THERE IS A LOT OF PREVENTATIVE MAINTENANCE GOING ON NOW.

BUT WITH THAT, AND WITH THE NEW SOFTWARE, WE STARTED DAILY MAINTENANCE STAFF MEETINGS.

IT WAS A LOT MORE INFORMAL BEFORE THAT, WHERE I'M JUST CATCHING UP WITH GUYS DURING THE DAY, OR AS I SEE THEM, AS THEY'RE COMING INTO THE BREAK ROOM, OR THEY'RE COMING TO ASK QUESTIONS.

WE STARTED A FORMAL MAINTENANCE STAFF MEETING THAT'S AT TWO O'CLOCK EVERY DAY.

THEIR DAY ENDS AT 2:30.

THEY WORK 6:00-2: 30, SO THEIR LAST HALF HOUR WE'RE REVIEWING, HERE'S THE WORK ORDERS THAT ARE OUT.

I'LL JUST SHOW A QUICK EXAMPLE OF THAT.

I'M HIGHLIGHTING WHAT I WANT THEM TO FOCUS ON THE NEXT DAY, TRYING TO A LOT OF TIMES GROUP IT BY FACILITY, OR MAKE IT SO THAT IT WILL HELP OUR EFFICIENCY.

IT PROVIDES THEM AN OPPORTUNITY TO UPDATE ME ON A DAILY BASIS OF WHETHER WE HAD A HICCUP, OR WHAT WE GOT GOING ON.

IT REALLY IMPROVED OUR COMMUNICATION.

ONE OF THE SIDE THINGS WAS, I THOUGHT THEY WOULD HATE IT, BUT I THINK THEY ACTUALLY LIKE GETTING TOGETHER EVERY DAY AND HAVING THAT OPPORTUNITY TO GO BACK AND FORTH ON NOT JUST HEARING WHAT THEY'RE DOING, BUT OUR OTHER STAFF WHAT THEY'VE GOT GOING ON.

THERE'S BEEN SOME GOOD, ACTUALLY A COUPLE OF TIMES TROUBLESHOOTING WHEN SOMETHING IS GOING WRONG SOMEWHERE.

SOMEONE ELSE HAS AN IDEA, LIKE, HEY, WHAT ABOUT THIS, AND THAT'S BEEN POSITIVE AS WELL.

I WILL SAY, LIKE I SAID, IT'S RESULTED IN INCREASED EFFICIENCY,

[02:00:01]

WE ARE RUNNING LEANER, WHICH I THINK WHEN WE TALKED ABOUT THE FACILITY PLAN IN THE BEGINNING, WE TALKED ABOUT, THERE'S SOME MONEY THAT NEEDS TO BE EARMARKED FOR THIS TO DO IT THE RIGHT WAY.

WE ALSO ARE UNDERSTANDING OF THE REALITIES OF THE ENVIRONMENT WE'RE IN, AND EVERYWHERE IN THE DISTRICT HAS BEEN TOUCHED BY CUTS, AND WE ARE ALSO IN THE SAME BOAT.

WE ARE RUNNING WITH A LEANER CREW.

WE ARE RUNNING WITH THREE MAINTENANCE GUYS AND THREE GROUNDS GUYS.

WE TYPICALLY HAVE FOUR MAINTENANCE GUYS IN THE PAST MORE THAN THAT, AND WE TYPICALLY HIRE 2-3 SUMMER MAINTENANCE GUYS TO HELP WITH JUST OUR FACILITIES AND GETTING THEM LOOK IN THE WAY THAT WE WANT TO KICK OFF SCHOOL.

THERE'S A FEW THINGS THAT WE'RE GIVEN UP WITH THAT TO OPERATE THAT WAY.

BUT THE PLUS SIDE AS WE WITH OUR NEW WORK ORDER SYSTEM, AND OUR MAINTENANCE MEETINGS, AND JUST BEING ON TOP OF THINGS, I REALLY THOUGHT WE WOULD BE IN THE WHOLE AS FAR AS WORK ORDERS GO.

BUT WE HAVE STAYED ABOUT THE SAME WHERE WE HAVE ROUGHLY ON AN AVERAGE 40-45 IN THE QUEUE, AND WE'VE BEEN KEEPING UP WITH GETTING THAT STUFF DONE WITH REDUCED STAFF.

HATS OFF TO OUR GUYS AND HOW THEY'VE RESPONDED TO BEING A LITTLE BIT SHORT HANDED.

QUESTIONS BEFORE I MOVE ON FROM THAT.

>> NO QUESTIONS. WOW.

>> THIS IS AN EXAMPLE JUST OF OUR DAILY MEETING.

YOU'LL SEE UP HERE.

THE SOURCE USER, IN THIS CASE, IS JIM BARKER, HE'S OUR GROUNDS GUY.

>> YOU DIDN'T SWITCH OVER. THAT'S ALL RIGHT.

>> HOW DO I DO THAT?

>> MAYBE UNSHARE AND THEN RESHARE THAT DOCUMENT.

>> I KNOW. IT'S MY CHANCE.

TECH SUPPORT. BRYCE HAD I DO ON THAT ONE.

>> IS HE STILL HERE? NO, HE LEFT.

CHRIS, HOW DO ON THAT? IS THAT WHAT YOU WOULD DO, UNSURE?

>> I HAVE TO DO THAT EVERY TIME I SWITCH SCREENS.

I HAVE A FEW SCREENS TO SHARE.

IT SLOW US DOWN.

THIS IS JUST AN EXAMPLE OF I PICKED ONE OF THE DAYS THAT WE WERE STILL IN SCHOOL OR MAYBE WE WERE JUST OUT.

BUT EACH GUY HAS WHAT'S BEEN ASSIGNED TO HIM.

THIS IS EVERYTHING IN THE QUEUE ON THAT CERTAIN DAY.

THEN THE HIGHLIGHTED ONES ARE WHAT I'VE GONE THROUGH AND SAID, HEY, I WANT YOU GUYS TO FOCUS ON THIS THE NEXT DAY.

JIM IS RESPONSIBLE FOR TWO OTHER GUYS.

HE'S THE LEAD OF THE GROUND.

ALL THREE OF THEM ARE ON ALL THESE WORK ORDERS, BUT IT'S EASIER TO SORT BY JUST JIM.

THEN YOU'LL SEE RON, PALMER, HERMAN.

YOU CAN SEE EVERYBODY'S GOT STUFF THAT WE'VE HIGHLIGHTED FOR THE NEXT DAY.

YOU MIGHT SEE SOME OF THAT.

SOME OF THE WORK ORDERS ARE IN PROGRESS OR WE'RE WAITING ON PARTS.

WE'RE GETTING A LOT MORE ACCURATE UP TO DATE OF WHERE WE'RE AT ON EACH WORK ORDER.

IT'S EASIER FOR ME TO SEE WHAT'S GOING ON IN OUR DEPARTMENT.

I JUST WANTED TO SHARE THAT REAL QUICK.

>> [INAUDIBLE] IF I CAN ASK, HOW IS YOUR LEAD TIMES ON PARTS?

>> IT COMPLETELY DEPENDS ON WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.

I CAN GIVE YOU AN EXAMPLE WHERE WE WERE WAITING OVER A YEAR FOR A HEATER IN VISTA'S MAIN OFFICE.

THEY KEPT SAYING, IT'S GOING TO SHIP AND WE FINALLY JUST GOT IT HERE A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO AND WE HAD ORDERED IT.

OVER A YEAR AGO.

THEN SOME THINGS AREN'T TERRIBLY BAD.

PLUMBING, FOR THE MOST PART, WE CAN GET PRETTY QUICKLY.

>> DO YOU HAVE YOUR PREFERRED VENDORS THAT YOU USE?

>> WE TRY TO SPREAD IT AROUND A LITTLE BIT.

WE HAVE MULTIPLE VENDORS, WE'LL HAVE MULTIPLE PLUMBING GUYS THAT WE'LL GO TO.

>> PROBABLY FERGUSON AND SOME OTHER?

>> PARTS WORKS, WE HAVE DIFFERENT GUYS THAT WE USE.

WE TRY TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE CHECKING EVERY

[02:05:01]

NOW AND THEN TO SEE HOW WE'RE DOING PRICE WISE.

>> IT'S IMPORTANT TO FOLLOW UP ON YOUR PURCHASES.

HEY, THAT WORKED, RIGHT? LET'S SEE.

I THOUGHT WE'D TOUCH ON OUR CAPITAL RENEWAL PLAN.

WE WENT THROUGH THIS A LITTLE MORE IN DEPTH AT ONE OF THE LAST MEETINGS.

AS YOU RECALL, I'M GOING TO HAVE A SUMMARY SHEET, BUT THIS IS THE WORK THAT CSG AND DIAN DID TO HELP US CREATE A 20 YEAR PLAN FOR OUR FACILITY RENEWAL AND THE THINGS THAT WE NEEDED TO LOOK AT YEAR OVER YEAR.

WE HAVE THIS EXECUTIVE SUMMARY AND THEN EACH SCHOOL HAS A SPREADSHEET ON WHAT THAT MEANS MOVING FORWARD.

AS YOU CAN SEE IN 2026, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT WE HAD $3.9 MILLION OF STUFF THAT WE HAD IDENTIFIED THAT WAS TIME TO DO SOME WORK ON, WHICH ISN'T A GREAT REALITY WITH OUR BUDGET SYSTEM OR SITUATION.

THIS IS A BRIEF SYNOPSIS OF WHAT WAS GOING ON AT EACH SCHOOL IN THAT SUMMARY, AND WE HAD TO LOOK AT, HERE'S THE THINGS THAT WERE IDENTIFIED AS NEEDS.

WHAT ARE WE REALLY GOING TO TAKE ACTION ON, HOW ARE WE GOING TO KEEP THIS PLAN MOVING FORWARD WITH THE REALITIES OF OUR BUDGET SITUATION? I GUESS WHAT I WILL SAY IS THIS IS STILL TBD AS WE GET INTO NEXT YEAR AND SEE HOW THINGS ARE GOING THROUGH THE YEAR.

FOR US, MAINTENANCE WISE, THESE BIGGER PROJECTS WOULD NOT HAPPEN UNTIL THE SUMMER ANYWAY.

WE HAVE SOME TIME TO PLAN AS WE SEE HOW THE SCHOOL YEAR IS GOING, HOW BUDGET IS GOING.

ARE WE GOING TO BE ABLE TO STICK WITH MOST OF THESE THINGS? ARE WE STILL GOING TO HAVE TO MAKE SOME ADJUSTMENTS AS WE GO THROUGH THE SCHOOL YEAR AND WHERE WE ARE BUDGET WISE? MARK, DO YOU WANT TO ADD ANYTHING THERE? YOU CAN SEE, AT VISTA, WHAT WAS ON THAT SHEET, THAT 121,000 WAS REALLY THE FIRE PROTECTION SYSTEM.

BEFORE MY TIME, THERE HAD BEEN SOME WORK DONE.

IT'S A DRY SYSTEM, BUT WE'VE HAD SEVERAL BREAKS IN THE PAST, ONE IN THE MAIN GYM.

AGAIN, BEFORE MY TIME, IT'S BEEN A SYSTEM THAT'S BEEN IN THERE A LONG TIME.

WE HAVE SOME LEAKS THAT WE'VE HAD.

WE HAVE ACTUALLY ONE IN THE MAIN GYM THAT WE'VE HAD, WE'VE HAD SMALL ONE IN THE LOCK ROOM.

WE GET OCCASIONAL ISSUES IN THE FIRE SYSTEM.

BASICALLY, OUR FERNDALE LOVELY WATER.

WE BASICALLY ROT THE PIPES.

WITH THEM, I'M NOT SURE WHEN MAYBE IN THE '94, NOT SURE WHEN THAT GOT PUT IN THE REMODEL, BUT IT MIGHT EVEN BEEN BEFORE THAT.

WE HAVE SOME OLD STUFF IN THERE.

THIS WAS IDENTIFIED AS A POTENTIAL NEED.

AS WE LOOK AT IT, AND I SHOULD HAVE MAYBE RANKED THESE.

I WOULD PROBABLY RANK THAT AS THE SECOND MOST IMPORTANT THING ON THIS LIST WITH THE FIRST BEING CASCADIA, THE LIGHTING UPGRADE TO LED.

YOU CAN SEE IT WAS BUDGETED FOR ABOUT $907,000.

WE HAVE DONE ALL THOSE IN HOUSE.

WE'RE REALLY TALKING ABOUT THE COST OF THE FIXTURES.

OFTENTIMES YOU GET REALLY GOOD REBATES ON THOSE.

I TOOK PROBABLY A VERY HIGH STAB AT IF WE DID THAT COMPLETELY IN HOUSE, WE'RE PROBABLY LOOKING AT $300,000.

WE'RE GOING TO GET PAYBACK IMMEDIATELY WITH ENERGY SAVINGS, AND IT'S A PROJECT THAT REALLY MAKES SENSE, AND MOST OF OUR OTHER FACILITIES HAVE ALREADY BEEN UPGRADED TO LED.

IT WAS SOMETHING THAT WAS IDENTIFIED.

I THINK WE HAVE SOME COST SAVINGS THERE AND IT WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT WE WOULD LOOK AT COMPLETING NEXT SUMMER.

CENTRAL ELEMENTARY IS REALLY THE SKYLIGHT REPLACEMENTS OVER THE COVERED PLAY AREA.

[02:10:08]

WE HAVE HAD SOME LEAKING ISSUES AND WE'VE HAD SOME VANDALISM OF KIDS GETTING UP ON THE ROOF AND BREAKING THOSE A RELATIVELY $8,000 TO LOOK AT REPLACING THOSE, PROTECTING THE ROOF SYSTEM, PROTECTING WATER FROM GETTING IN.

WE ALL LOVE SKYLIGHTS.

BUT THERE'S SOMETHING THAT WE FELT LIKE THAT PROBABLY IS SOMETHING WE NEED TO LOOK AT.

THE OTHER THING YOU'LL SEE ON HERE FOR MOUNTAIN VIEW.

THERE'S SOME CROSS OVER HERE WITH PUBLIC ADDRESS AND MUSIC SYSTEMS. THEIR DEFINITION OF THIS WAS LARGE SPEAKERS FOR A SINGLE SPACE LIKE COMMONS OR A GYM AREA.

THEN INTERCOMMUNICATION AND PAGING SYSTEM IS MORE LIKE WHAT YOU HAVE IN THE OFFICE TO GET TO EACH CLASSROOM.

THERE'S $280,000 FOR SPEAKERS IN MOUNT VIEW GYM.

SEEMS ONE A LITTLE HIGH AND TWO SOMETHING THAT WE'RE NOT SURE HOW PROGRAMS ARE GOING TO BE THERE, NOT SOMETHING THAT WE PROBABLY WANT TO LOOK AT.

TALKING TO STEVE, THERE'S SOME THINGS THAT WE'LL PROBABLY LOOK AT RUN INTO FAILURE, AND INTERCOMMUNICATION SYSTEM MIGHT BE ONE OF THOSE THAT THESE HAVE WORKED FOR A LONG TIME, THEY'RE WORKING NOW.

IS THAT SOMETHING WE JUST HOLD BACK ON UNTIL WE START HAVING SOME ISSUES.

WE HAVEN'T HAD MANY REPAIR ISSUES WITH THAT SYSTEM, AN OCCASIONAL ISSUE, BUT NOTHING THAT IS A CONSTANT THAT WE'RE STARTING TO SEE A LOT MORE MONEY BEING SPENT ON FIXING THAT.

THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT WE WOULD PROBABLY HOLD OFF ON.

NORTH BELL HAD 522,000 IN IT FOR FLOORING REPLACEMENT.

WE'RE IN THE PROCESS OF FIGURING OUT WHAT'S HAPPENING THERE.

MARK CAN PROBABLY EXPAND ON THAT A LITTLE BIT MORE.

WE'RE LOOKING AT MAYBE OUR TENANT TAKING A LITTLE MORE OWNERSHIP OF THAT.

>> I THINK THAT'S THE PLAN RIGHT NOW AS WE'RE WORKING WITH THE ESD TO COME UP WITH AN ARRANGEMENT THAT IT WORKS OUT FOR THEM IN TERMS OF NOT BEING PARTICULARLY ADVERSE FOR THEM, COST IMPACT WISE, BUT GIVES THEM A LONGER TERM COMMITMENT, A HOME FOR THE LONG TERM WHICH THEY'RE REALLY LOOKING FOR AND WOULD TRANSFER THE COST COMPLETELY OF MAINTAINING THE FACILITY TO THEM.

I WOULD TAKE IT OFF OF OUR LIST FREEING UP A CONSIDERABLE AMOUNT OF MONEY THAT COULD GO BACK INTO THE OTHER FACILITIES.

WE'RE PURSUING THAT, AND BOTH OF US ARE REALLY HOPING TO MAKE THAT WORK.

NOW IT'S A MATTER OF DOING SOME OF THE FINANCIAL DETAILING TO MAKE SURE THAT WE CAN MAKE THAT POSSIBLE FOR BOTH SIDES.

>> MARK, DO YOU HAVE ANY TIMELINE ON THAT AT ALL?

>> WE'RE HOPING WITHIN THE NEXT FEW MONTHS.

>> RIGHT NOW, WITH IT BEING SUMMER, PEOPLE ARE IN AND OUT, AND WE'VE GOT TO GET THE ATTORNEY TO WEIGH IN ON A COUPLE OF ITEMS, BUT WE HAVE TO GET A CONFIDENTIALITY WAIVER SIGNED BY BOTH OF US FIRST.

WE'VE GOT TO GET THAT DONE.

CSG IS WORKING ON SOME UPDATED COST ESTIMATES FOR WHAT IT WOULD TAKE BECAUSE THE BIG ISSUE OUT THERE THAT WE'VE TALKED ABOUT IS THE 38 BUILDING, AND THEN WE NEED TO DEMO THAT FACILITY, BUT THAT HOUSES ALL OF THE MECHANICAL SYSTEM.

WE DID QUITE A BIT OF WORK.

JAMIE AND KEN, FROM CSG, DIKE, BEN DID A LOT OF HOMEWORK ON OPTIONS FOR WHAT IT WOULD TAKE TO RELOCATE THE FACILITIES TO ALLOW THEM TO OPERATE WITHOUT THE CURRENT PLAN.

WE'RE UPDATING THOSE COST NUMBERS COMING UP WITH A PLAN TO SEE IF IT'S WITHIN THE BUDGET THAT THE ESD THINKS THEY COULD MAKE WORK FOR THEM FINANCIALLY.

IT'S A LOT OF PIECES THAT HAVE TO FALL INTO PLACE, SO IT'S A FEW MONTHS, MAYBE.

>> THANKS.

>> WHICH WOULD BE GREAT IF THAT WORKS OUT?

[02:15:04]

SORRY, JUMPED TO THE NEXT THING, BUT BEFORE I LEFT THAT, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON THAT FACILITY PLAN? IT'LL BE SOMETHING WE UPDATE HERE AS WE GO THROUGH THE SCHOOL YEAR AND LOOK AT, OKAY, WHAT DO WE HAVE BUDGET TO DO? WHAT DO WE THINK THE PRIORITIES ARE TO GET DONE NEXT SUMMER? ANYTHING ELSE?

>> WELL, I'D SAY A BIG PART OF IT IS WHAT ISN'T ON THE LIST THAT POPS UP.

THE BOILER THAT FAILS THAT WE DIDN'T PLAN ON THAT'S $70,000 OR A LOT OF SNOW THAT WE SPEND TENS OF THOUSAND DOLLAR ON SNOW REMOVAL THAT WE'RE HOPING TO SAVE AND PUT TOWARDS A LONGER-RANGE, BETTER PROJECT THAN SNOW REMOVAL.

THERE'S STILL A LITTLE BIT OF A WILD CARD AS YOU GO THROUGH THE YEAR.

>> JUST FOR KICKS, SO WE'RE LOOKING AT A $4 MILLION BUDGET.

IT'S BEEN BUMPED DOWN SOME.

DO WE HAVE A NUMBER OUT THERE FOR CONTINGENCY?

>> WELL, JAMIE'S GOT SOME BUILT INTO THE MAINTENANCE BUDGET.

IN BUDGETING, WE TEND TO BUDGET ON THE HIGH SIDE TO MAKE SURE WE'VE GOT ENOUGH BECAUSE YOU CAN'T COME BACK FOR A SECOND BITE.

THEN WE'VE GOT SOME EMERGENCY MONEY SET ASIDE FOR MAINTENANCE REPAIRS, WHICH IS 70,000?

>> SEVENTY THOUSAND.

>> SEVENTY THOUSAND.

>> THANKS. WITH THAT, WE CURRENTLY HAVE TWO BOILER PROJECTS GOING ON.

WE LOST ONE BOILER AT CENTRAL LAST YEAR.

WE ACTUALLY MADE IT THROUGH THE WINTER.

THEY HAD THREE, BUT WE NEED TO GET THIS ONE UP AND GOING.

ORIGINALLY, IT WAS GOING TO COST US OVER 100 GRAND WHEN WE GOT OUR FIRST BIDS.

DARREN, OUR HVAC GUY, WAS ABLE TO FIND THE PARTS TO REBUILD IT, WHICH THE THING IS PRETTY OLD, BUT BASICALLY REBUILD THE GUT SO THAT IT WOULD BE NEW AND WE'RE LOOKING AT ABOUT 25,000 FOR THAT PROJECT.

HORIZON BOILERS HAD ISSUES, WE HAVE TO REBUILD THE GUTS OF THAT AS WELL.

IT'S A SECTION THAT'S GONE BAD.

USED TO BE ABLE TO REPLACE JUST A SECTION, THEY DON'T DO THAT ANYMORE.

THEY REPLACE EVERYTHING AT ONCE.

WE'RE LOOKING AT $72,000 JOB THERE THIS SUMMER IN ORDER TO GET THAT GOING FOR THE WINTER.

TO MARK'S POINT, A COUPLE OF SURPRISES AS WE GO THROUGH WITH THINGS THAT HAPPEN.

THE LAST THING I WANTED TO JUST SHOW AND TALK ABOUT IS, AND IT TOUCHES ON PREVENTATIVE MAINTENANCE AS WELL.

SUMMER IS A PRETTY BUSY TIME FOR US TO GET THINGS DONE AT THE FACILITY, AND I THINK PEOPLE MIGHT BE SURPRISED AT HOW MUCH WE ARE REQUIRED BY A LAW TO DO TO KEEP OUR FACILITIES SAFE AND UP TO DATE.

THIS IS JUST A LIST OF THE THINGS THAT WE HAVE GOING ON, MOSTLY FROM OUTSIDE CONTRACTORS, BECAUSE YOU'RE REQUIRED TO HAVE INSPECTIONS AND THINGS, SOME YEARLY.

BOILERS, YOU HAVE TO INSPECT EVERY OTHER YEAR.

YOU GOT TO OPEN THEM UP FOR L&I TO TAKE A LOOK AT.

THERE'S SOME COSTS WITH THAT AND I THINK YOU CAN SEE TO THE RIGHT.

FIRST OF ALL, JUST FOR OUR SUMMER INSPECTIONS AND THINGS THAT WE HAVE TO DO, WE'RE TALKING $190,000.

IT'S NOT A CHEAP DEAL WITH WHAT WE'RE DOING.

IT'S ALL GOOD STUFF.

IT'S ALL THINGS THAT, FOR EXAMPLE, WE HAVE, YOU CAN SEE UP THERE, THE BLEACHER SERVICE, WHICH WE'RE REQUIRED BY LAW TO DO, WHICH THEY COME OUT AND PULL ALL OF OUR BLEACHERS OUT AND CHECK EVERYTHING, AND THEY'LL GIVE ME A LIST OF THINGS THAT MAY NEED TO BE REPAIRED OR THINGS THAT THEY SEE, AND THEN THEY CERTIFY THEM FOR THE NEXT YEAR.

[02:20:03]

LIKE I SAID, SOMETHING THAT YOU MAY NOT THINK ABOUT.

THE ROLL-UP DOOR INSPECTION.

EVERY ROLL-UP DOOR THAT WE HAVE GOES THROUGH INSPECTION EVERY YEAR.

IF THERE'S A DEFICIENCY OR AN ISSUE, THEN THEY COME BACK WITH, HEY, YOU GOT TO FIX THIS.

ALL OUR PRESSURE VESSELS.

YOU CAN SEE THE YEARLY BOILER MAINTENANCE FOR THE NEW HIGH SCHOOL IS 15 GRAND FOR THEM TO COME OUT.

WE CAN ONLY USE ONE, THE PEOPLE THAT OWN IT.

IT'S NOT SOMETHING WE CAN DO ON OUR OWN, PLUS THEY'RE SUPER COMPLICATED NOW.

IT'S NOT EASY WITH ALL THE ELECTRONICS AND EVERYTHING THAT GOES ON WITH IT, IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT WE CAN FIX, OR WE CAN SERVICE OURSELVES.

THE CHAIR LIFTS, YOU CAN SEE JUST FOR CASCADIA THERE, IT'S 3,000 A YEAR FOR A FIVE-YEAR FOR THEM TO COME UP, AND THIS ISN'T THE ELEVATOR, THIS IS THE CHAIR LIFT TO THE STAGE.

SAME WITH THE HIGH SCHOOL.

IT'S 3,000 A YEAR FOR THEM JUST TO COME OUT, LOOK AT IT, MAKE SURE IT RUNS, CHECK IT OFF, SIGN US OFF, AND MOVE ON.

THE OTHER POINT I'LL MAKE, THIS IS WHY WE HAVE PUSHED FOR JULY TO BE REALLY NOT HAVE A LOT OF STAFF IN OUR FACILITIES, BECAUSE WE HAVE A LOT OF STUFF GOING ON THAT NOT ONLY JUST WITH OUR CUSTODIANS AND THEM TRYING TO GET THE BUILDINGS READY FOR THE START OF SCHOOL.

SOME OF THESE THINGS ARE PRETTY INVASIVE.

THE FIRE CONFIDENCE TESTING COMES IN AND SETS OFF ALL THE ALARMS, MAKE SURE EVERY SMOKE IS WORKING, MAKE SURE EVERY HORN IS WORKING, MAKE SURE EVERY DOOR THAT'S SUPPOSED TO CLOSE WHEN A FIRE HAPPENS.

WHEN THE ALARM GOES OFF, MAKE SURE EVERY DOOR CLOSES AND FUNCTIONS LIKE IT'S SUPPOSED TO.

IT'S A DAY OF THE FIRE ALARM GOING OFF CONSTANTLY.

IT'S BEEN VERY HELPFUL FOR US TO HAVE JULY TO TRY TO GET A LOT OF THESE THINGS DONE.

LIKE I SAID, A LOT OF THIS IS PREVENTATIVE MAINTENANCE TOO BECAUSE THEY'RE LOOKING AT THINGS AND THEY'RE GIVING US IF THERE'S DEFICIENCIES IN THESE SYSTEMS THAT WE NEED TO ADDRESS, AND MOST OF THEM ARE SAFETY-ORIENTED. QUESTIONS.

>> I'D JUST LIKE TO THANK JAMIE AND HIS TEAM BECAUSE ONE THING I WILL TELL YOU ABOUT OUR FACILITIES AND MAINTENANCE TEAM, INCLUDING OUR GROUNDS, IS THAT IS A TEAM THAT DOES THEIR WORK WITH JOY.

IT DOESN'T MATTER WHAT TIME I RUN INTO THEM EARLY IN THE MORNING.

THE OTHER MORNING, IT WASN'T EVEN 7:00, I DON'T THINK, AND HIS TEAM WAS JOYFUL AND EXCITED ABOUT THE DAY.

YOU CALL THEM AND THEY SHOW UP.

I JUST REALLY APPRECIATE THAT, JAMIE.

>> THANK YOU.

>> APPRECIATE IT.

>> THANK YOU, JAMIE.

>> YOU BET. [LAUGHTER]

[8. MATTERS RESERVED FOR BOARD ACTION]

>> WITH THAT, WE'LL HAVE A BIT OF DEJA VU AS WE MOVE BACK TO THE BUDGET, AND FOR THOSE THAT MIGHT BE WATCHING ONLINE THAT JUST JOINED US, WHEN THIS MEETING STARTED, WE DID HAVE OUR BUDGET HEARING JUST PRIOR TO THIS AT 5:45, AND HOLLY WENT THROUGH THE BUDGET INFORMATION AT THAT POINT AND WE DEFERRED ANY QUESTIONS TO NOW.

HOLLY, ANY COMMENTS THAT YOU REALIZE YOU FORGOT TO MAKE DURING THE FIRST PRESENTATION THAT YOU'D LIKE TO MAKE?

>> NO.

[LAUGHTER] I WOULD BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT ANYBODY HAS.

>> ANY QUESTIONS FOR HOLLY IN REGARDS TO THE BUDGET THAT WE WILL BE ADOPTING OR ACTING ON LATER TONIGHT? I'M NOT SEEING ANY.

I'LL JUST REITERATE, THANK YOU TO HOLLY AND HER TEAM FOR PUTTING ALL THAT TOGETHER, PARTICULARLY THE CITIZEN'S BUDGET, WHICH MAKES THAT F195 UNDERSTANDABLE.

THANK YOU. WITH THAT, WE'LL MOVE ON TO THE AUDIT COMMITTEE. PEGGY?

>> WELL, AGAIN, NOTHING [INAUDIBLE] TO REPORT, JUST WENT THROUGH THE VOUCHERS.

EVERYTHING LOOKS FINE.

WE'D LIKE TO KNOW WHAT, WHAT'S IT CALLED?

[02:25:04]

SOME MUSICAL INSTRUMENTS THAT THEY'RE USING IN THE CLOCKMAKER'S DAUGHTER.

ANYBODY KNOW WHAT THAT THING IS? [OVERLAPPING].

>> I'LL TRY GO WATCH IT, MAYBE I'LL BE ABLE TO TELL YOU.

>> IT'S LIKE A SYNTHESIZER OF SOME SORT.

IT'S A RATHER EXPENSIVE THING, AND I'M WONDERING DO WE GET TO KEEP IT? WHAT BECOMES OF THIS THING ONCE THEY'RE DONE WITH IT IN THIS PRODUCTION? ANYBODY KNOW?

>> TYPICALLY, THEY'RE ON LOAN FROM SOMEBODY, A CAST MEMBER WITHIN THE PROGRAM.

SO I WOULD GUESS IT'S NOT PROPERTY OF THE FERNDALE SCHOOL DISTRICT.

>> WELL, IT'S A SPECIAL THING, AND I WANT TO KNOW WHAT IT IS NOW.

YEAH, I THINK IT'S A SYNTHESIZER OF SOME SORT.

ANYWAY, AS I SAID, NOTHING PARTICULARLY EXCITING, AND THAT'S WHAT YOU WANT.

ASK NANCY ABOUT HER LEG REPORT.

>> WELL, THANK YOU FOR THE BORING AS WE HOPE IT WOULD BE AUDIT REPORT.

NANCY, WHAT DO YOU HAVE TO TELL US IN REGARDS TO LEGISLATIVE UPDATES?

>> HI, THERE, EVERYBODY.

GREETINGS FROM DESOLATION SOUND.

IT'S NO LONGER 102 IN HERE, BUT IT DID GET THAT HOT DURING THIS MEETING DOWN TO 84 DEGREES NOW.

THE GENERAL ASSEMBLY IS ON SEPTEMBER 20TH, IF YOU KNOW THAT, AND IF YOU DIDN'T.

THIS DOESN'T WORK AT ALL BACKLIT, I'M JUST GOING TO STOP THE VIDEO.

THE GENERAL ASSEMBLY HANDBOOK, THE FIRST EDITION, IS OUT RIGHT NOW AND ANYONE CAN SEE THAT.

BUT BETWEEN NOW AND AUGUST 18TH, IT WILL BE UPDATED TO HAVE THE FINAL EDITION OF IT.

THEN ONCE THAT HAPPENS, I'M HOPING THAT WE CAN EITHER PUT IT OUT.

I THINK LAST YEAR, CHRIS HELPED ME OUT BY MAKING A SURVEY, OR MAYBE IT WAS SELINA, BUT SOME KIND OF A SURVEY TO THE BOARD SO EVERYBODY COULD SAY HOW THEY WOULD VOTE.

THERE'S 27 DIFFERENT PROPOSALS, AND THAT WOULD HELP ME AS YOUR LEG REP TO FOLLOW WHAT THE BOARD WANTS ON SEPTEMBER 20TH AT THAT GENERAL ASSEMBLY.

OR WE COULD DO A SPECIAL MEETING JUST TO GO OVER THAT BETWEEN NOW AND EARLY SEPTEMBER.

WHO WANTS TO DO WHAT? WOULD YOU PREFER A SURVEY OR WOULD YOU LIKE A MEETING? YOU COULD ALL READ THE GENERAL ASSEMBLY HANDBOOK ONLINE TO SEE WHAT'S THERE.

OUR PROPOSAL IS ON THERE, TOO.

>> [OVERLAPPING] I PERSONALLY THINK THAT THE ONLINE SURVEY, THE WAY WE DID IT WORKED WELL, BECAUSE IT WAS OPEN THAT WAY, IT WAS OPEN TO THE PUBLIC AS WELL THEY COULD SEE, BUT IT GAVE US A CHANCE WITHOUT HAVING TO TRY TO FIND ANOTHER MEETING TIME AND TO GIVE YOU INPUT BECAUSE I'VE BEEN IN THAT LEG POSITION AND WHEN YOU DON'T HAVE INPUT, IT'S WHAT DO I DO?

>> EXCELLENT POINT. IF NOBODY ELSE IS SPEAKING UP, THAT IS ALSO WHAT I PREFER TO.

ONE LESS MEETING. [LAUGHTER] WE CAN GET IT DONE THAT WAY EASILY, I DO BELIEVE.

>> NANCY, I'LL WORK WITH SELINA AND CHRIS, AND WE'LL BE IN TOUCH WITH YOU ABOUT THE PROCESS.

>> THANK YOU, KRISTI, I APPRECIATE THAT.

THAT'S REALLY ALL I HAVE.

IN THE INTEREST OF NOT EXTENDING THIS MEETING ANY LONGER, I'LL SIGN OFF.

THANK YOU. WELL, I WON'T SIGN OFF, BUT I'LL STOP TALKING.

>> HOW FAR UP IN DESOLATION SOUND ARE YOU?

>> TEAKERNE ARM.

>> THAT'S QUITE A WAY [OVERLAPPING].

>> IT'S LOVELY. [LAUGHTER]

>> WELL, ARE YOU CLOSE TO PRINCESS LOUISA INLET?

>> WE WERE JUST THERE. WE WERE THERE FOR ABOUT FOUR DAYS.

>> WELL, EVEN THOUGH THE BACKLIT, WE COULDN'T SEE YOU SO WELL, IT WAS NICE TO SEE THE RIPPLING WATERS, AND IT HELPED WITH OUR HAWAIIAN THEME.

THANK YOU FOR SHARING THAT WITH US.

>> THERE YOU GO. THAT'S OUT THE BACK WINDOW OF THE BOAT.

>> I VOTE WE HAVE NEXT JULY'S MEETING ON THE BOAT.

[LAUGHTER]

[02:30:04]

>> MIGHT BE A LITTLE TIGHT.

IT'S NOT THAT BIGGER BOAT.

>> WE'LL SQUEEZE IN.

>> THANKS TEAM.

>> THANKS, DANCY. THANKS FOR MAKING THE EFFORT TO JOIN US FROM FAR, FAR AWAY.

>> HEY, STARLINK.

>> WELL, WE WILL GO AHEAD THEN AND MOVE ON TO ITEM 8.0 MATTERS RESERVED FOR THE BOARD.

THE FIRST ITEM THAT WE HAVE IS TO ACT ON RESOLUTION NUMBER 09-25, THE BUDGET FOR 2025, '26.

WE'VE HAD MULTIPLE OPPORTUNITIES TO DISCUSS THE BUDGET, TO HEAR ABOUT THE BUDGET, TO ASK COLE QUESTIONS FOR THE BUDGET.

FOR THOSE THAT ARE LOOKING FOR ANY OF THOSE DOCUMENTS, THEY ARE HERE ATTACHED TO THE BOARD DOCS, SO YOU CAN CERTAINLY PERUSE THOSE.

AT THIS POINT ANY FINAL QUESTIONS, OR DO I HAVE A MOTION TO ACT UPON THE BUDGET?

>> I'D JUST LIKE TO SAY THANK YOU TO HOLLY BECAUSE I HAD A MILLION QUESTIONS ABOUT THE BUDGET.

MAINLY JUST EDUCATING ME ABOUT IT, AND SHE VERY PATIENTLY AND KINDLY EXPLAINED TO ME ALL OF THE THINGS, JUST A PUBLIC SHOUT-OUT TO HOLLY.

SHE'S JUST AMAZING. THANK YOU, HOLLY.

>> THANK YOU. YOU ARE WELCOME. [OVERLAPPING]

>> I MAKE A MOTION THAT WE ADOPT THE BUDGET IF NOBODY ELSE HAS ANYTHING ELSE TO ADD.

>> I SECOND.

>> IT HAS BEEN MOVED THAT WE ADOPT THE BUDGET RESOLUTION NUMBER 09-2025.

WE'LL START WITH THE STUDENT ADVISORY VOTE.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFIED BY SAYING AYE. [OVERLAPPING].

>> AYE.

>> ALL OPPOSED.

MOVING ON TO THE BOARD VOTE, THE ELECTED BOARD MEMBERS VOTE THE STUDENTS HAVE VOTED IN THE AFFIRMATIVE.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF ADOPTING THE BUDGET AS PRESENTED, SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. [OVERLAPPING].

>> AYE.

>> AYE.

>> ALL OPPOSED.

THE BUDGET HAS BEEN ADOPTED AS PRESENTED.

THE NEXT THREE ITEMS ON THE AGENDA ARE TO ACT ON THREE PROPOSED POLICIES.

THESE THREE POLICIES WERE ORIGINALLY ONE POLICY, 6700, THAT WAS BROKEN INTO THREE, 6700 NUTRITION, 6701, RECESS AND PHYSICAL ACTIVITY, AND 6702 WELLNESS.

THESE POLICIES WERE DEEMED ESSENTIAL BY WASDA.

THE FIRST ITEM 8.02, IS TO ACT ON THE REVISED POLICY 6700 NUTRITION.

ANY COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS?

>> I'M JUST GOING TO ADD THIS.

AS THESE WERE BEING BROKEN APART, PEGGY DID HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT THE WELLNESS ONE.

I THINK WHERE YOU'RE GOING TO SEE THE ACTUAL CHANGE AND WHAT THIS LOOKS LIKE IS ONCE THESE ARE ADOPTED, IT'LL BE IN THE PROCEDURES.

ONCE WE HAVE THE NEW POLICIES AND KEEP IN MIND THE WASDA'S MODEL POLICIES, THEN THE TEAM WILL BEGIN TO WORK ON WHAT THOSE PROCEDURES.

THAT'S WHAT'S GOING TO BRING THE MEANING AND THE PRACTICE TO THEM.

I JUST WANTED TO ADDRESS THAT.

>> I'M OKAY WITH ADOPTING THEM.

I STILL THINK THAT WHICH ONE IS IT 6702.

IS A TOTAL NOTHING BURGER, AND I THINK WE COULD REWRITE IT IN A WAY THAT MAKES IT CLEAR WHAT THE HECK WE'RE LOOKING AT.

I DO SEE CAN WE ADOPT IT WITH THE IDEA OF GOING BACK AND AMENDING IT LATER BECAUSE [OVERLAPPING].

>> WHAT I'D LOVE TO DO IS HAVE MY TEAM LOOK AT THAT AND LOOK AT THE PROCEDURES AND SEE IF THAT HELPS AND THEN IF THEY NEED TO SAY, HEY, WE NEED MORE MEET, THEY COULD COME BACK TO THE BOARD AND ASK TIME TO REVISE IT.

I THINK WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO WORK ON THIS, AND I CALLED A COUPLE OF OTHER SUPERINTENDENTS, AND THEY'RE HAVING THE SAME CONVERSATION.

>> I THINK PART OF THE PROBLEM IS THAT IT SEEMS MORE SENSIBLE TO HAVE 6700 BE THE WELLNESS ONE AND THEN AND 6701 AND 6702 BE THE THINGS THAT SPIN OFF FROM IT RATHER THAN THE OTHER WAY.

>> THIS MIGHT BE ONE THAT WASDA GETS SOME FEEDBACK ON, SO WE COULD PROVIDE THAT.

>> CHRISTIE, I WOULD JUST ADD THAT THE INTENT OF 6702, THE POLICY ITSELF IS TO ENSURE BASICALLY OUR PARTICIPATION IN STATE REGULATIONS AND SUPPORTING OUR PARTICIPATION IN THE SCHOOL NUTRITION PROGRAM.

THAT IS THE INTENT OF THE 6702.

THEN THE PROCEDURE GOES INTO THE GOALS AND STANDARDS, THE OVERSIGHT AND ACCOUNTABILITY OF THAT COMMUNICATION AND REPORTING, AND IT HITS HARD THE WELLNESS INITIATIVE IN ACTION.

YOU'RE GOING TO SEE MUCH MORE BROKEN DOWN INTO THE PROCEDURE PARTS OF IT.

BUT THE POLICY IN ITSELF IS TO ENSURE OUR COMMITMENT AND COMPLIANCE WITH.

>> I JUST THINK IT CAN SAY THAT A LITTLE MORE CLEARLY.

[02:35:02]

>> THAT COULD BE SAID FOR A FEW POLICIES.

ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? THEN SEEING NONE, THE CHAIR WILL PUT FORTH THE MOTION THAT WE ADOPT THE REVISED POLICY 6700 NUTRITION, FORMALLY NUTRITION AND PHYSICAL FITNESS.

STARTING WITH THE STUDENT ADVISORY VOTE.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

>> AYE.

>> AYE.

>> ALL OPPOSED. MOVING ON TO THE ELECTED BOARD MEMBERS WITH THE STUDENT ADVISORY VOTE BEING IN THE AFFIRMATIVE.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

>> [OVERLAPPING] AYE.

>> ALL OPPOSED.

>> AYE.

>> THE REVISED POLICY 6700 HAS BEEN ADOPTED.

THEN MOVING ON TO THE NEW POLICY 6701 RECESS AND PHYSICAL ACTIVITY? ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS THERE?

>> I APPRECIATE THE WAY THEY PAIRED THIS ONE DOWN AND MADE IT SO MUCH SIMPLER AND ESSENTIALLY FOCUSED ON WHAT SCHOOLS ACTUALLY RESPONSIBLE FOR WITHOUT ADDING ANY ADDITIONAL BURDENS.

I'M VERY PLEASED WITH THE REVISIONS TO THIS ONE.

>> ANY OTHER COMMENTS? THEN SEEING NONE, AGAIN, I WILL PUT FORTH THE MOTION THAT WE ADOPT NEW POLICY 6701, RECESS AND PHYSICAL ACTIVITY.

STARTING WITH THE STUDENT ADVISORY VOTE.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

>> AYE.

>> AYE.

>> ALL OPPOSED. THE MOTION PASSES ON THE ADVISORY VOTE.

NOW MOVING ON TO THE ELECTED BOARD MEMBERS.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

>> [OVERLAPPING] AYE.

>> ALL OPPOSED. THE NEW POLICY 6701 RECESS IN PHYSICAL ACTIVITY IS ADOPTED.

FINALLY, 804 ADOPTING OR ACTING ON NEW POLICY 6702 WELLNESS.

PEGGY ALREADY MADE A FEW COMMENTS ABOUT THAT.

AGAIN, I THINK WE'LL SEE MORE CLARIFICATION AND PROCEDURE AS THESE GET VETTED.

ANY OTHER COMMENTS? SEEING NONE, WE'LL PUT FORTH THAT WE ADOPT NEW POLICY 6702 WELLNESS, STARTING WITH THE STUDENT VOTE.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

>> [OVERLAPPING] AYE.

>> OPPOSED. ADVISORY VOTE IS IN THE AFFIRMATIVE.

NOW MOVING ON TO THE BOARD MEMBERS.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

>> AYE.

>> AYE.

>> AYE.

>> ALL THOSE OPPOSED SIGNIFY BY [INAUDIBLE].

THE POLICY 6702 WELLNESS HAS BEEN ADOPTED.

[9.07 Student Assistance Professional for Prevention and Intervention services.]

THEN WE WILL MOVE ON TO DISCUSS FORMER ITEM 9.07, WHICH PEGGY ASKED TO MOVE OFF THE CONSENT AGENDA, THE STUDENT ASSISTANT PROFESSIONAL FOR PREVENTION INTERVENTION SERVICES.

PEGGY, YOU HAD SOME QUESTIONS ABOUT THIS?

>> WELL, I DID BECAUSE I COULD NOT FIND ANYTHING.

THIS LOOKS TO ME LIKE A NEW CONTRACT.

I'VE HUNTED AROUND AND I KNOW I'VE ASKED.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU FOUND.

>> TRINA IS GOING TO RESPOND.

>> THIS IS A CONTINUATION OF PARTNERSHIP WE'VE HAD WITH THE ESD TO PROVIDE A SUBSTANCE USE PREVENTION SPECIALIST IN OUR HIGH SCHOOL.

IT'S BEEN IN PLACE FOR AT LEAST SEVEN YEARS.

IT'S ONE OF THE CONTRACTS OR MEMORANDUMS OF AGREEMENT THAT HAS TYPICALLY BEEN SOME OF THEM BEFORE OUR NEWER PRACTICES WERE MANAGED BY THE SCHOOLS, WHEN IT WAS A SCHOOL-SPECIFIC INITIATIVE, AND WE'RE MOVING TO HAVING THEM MANAGED AND COMING THROUGH THE BOARD ALTOGETHER.

NOW, WHEN ROB, FOR EXAMPLE, GETS A POLICY AT THE HIGH SCHOOL OR MOU AT THE HIGH SCHOOL, SHE'LL SEND IT TO ME.

I'LL MAKE SURE IF IT'S NEW, THAT IT GOES THROUGH OUR ATTORNEYS AND THROUGH THE PROCESS, OR IF IT'S A REPEAT, THAT IT GETS ON THE BOARD AGENDA.

BUT IN THE PAST, MY THOUGHTS I COULDN'T FIND THE PREVIOUS ONES.

I COULDN'T FIND THEM ON THE BOARD, BUT I HAVE THE PAPER COPIES OF PREVIOUS ONES WITH THE ESD FOR THIS.

BUT IT'S A PERSON THAT THE ESD PAYS 100% FOR.

WE'VE HAD THIS POSITION FOR AT LEAST SEVEN YEARS AND THEY SUPPORT STUDENTS ARE PART OF OUR COUNSELING TEAM.

>> I MEAN, I'M CURIOUS BECAUSE THIS IS THE FIRST TIME I'VE EVER SEEN IT.

I WAS WONDERING WITH [OVERLAPPING].

[02:40:02]

>> HERE WITH ME.

>> THE STUDENT ASSISTANCE TEAM WHO SERVES ON THEM, HOW DID THEY CHOOSE THEM?

>> I DON'T KNOW THE SPECIFICS OF HOW THEY'RE CHOSEN AT THE SCHOOLS.

I DO KNOW THAT THE SAP IS A PART OF THE HIGH SCHOOL COUNSELING TEAM AND THE DISTRICT BEHAVIORAL MENTAL HEALTH COUNSELING TEAM.

THEY SERVE STUDENTS SOMETIMES BASED ON A REACTIVE WHERE STUDENTS HAVE PERHAPS GOTTEN IN TROUBLE WITH SUBSTANCE ABUSE AT SCHOOL, WHETHER IT'S VAPING, ETC, AND THEY'LL HAVE TO SPEND SOME TIME WITH THIS SPECIALIST AS A PART OF EDUCATION.

THEN THERE'S ALSO SCHOOL-WIDE LESSONS AND SMALLER GROUP ACTIVITIES THAT THEY DO AS WELL.

>> WHEN WE'VE HAD STUDY SESSIONS IN THE PAST ABOUT MENTAL HEALTH SUPPORTS OR COUNSELING SUPPORTS, THIS IS ALWAYS ONE OF THE POSITIONS THAT DOES COME UP.

WHEN WE'VE HAD STUDY SESSIONS IN THE PAST, WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THIS PARTICULAR POSITION.

TRINA'S POINT EARLIER, AND THIS WAS A SHIFT THAT THE BOARD ASKED FOR.

NOT ALL OF THESE THINGS CAME TO THE BOARD BECAUSE THEY FALL UNDER THE SUPERINTENDENT'S PURVIEW TO BE ABLE TO MAKE THOSE DECISIONS A OR A, IF IT'S SUPPORT, ESPECIALLY IF IT'S NOT MONETARY EXCHANGE.

BUT NOW WITH THAT SHIFT, YOU'RE GOING TO START TO SEE SOME THINGS THAT WE'VE HAD IN PLACE FOR A VERY LONG TIME, BUT YOU JUST MAY OR MAY NOT BEEN AWARE OF IT BECAUSE IT WASN'T COMING THROUGH.

>> BECAUSE I WAS LOOKING ALL THE SUBJECTS.

WHO REVIEWS THE PROGRAM? WHO IS THIS PERSON REPORT TO? DO THEY REPORT TO THE ESD OR DO THEY REPORT TO YOU? I JUST HAD A TON OF QUESTIONS ABOUT IT.

IF I CAN GET THOSE ANSWERED LATER, I'M FINE WITH THAT.

IT'S JUST SOMETHING I'D NEVER RUN ACROSS BEFORE.

>> I CAN ANSWER THAT RIGHT NOW.

IT'S A PARTNERSHIP.

RAV WORKS CLOSELY WITH THE LEADERSHIP FROM THE ESD, AND THEY HIRE TOGETHER, THEY DO SUPERVISION TOGETHER, RAV MEETS REGULARLY WITH THE EMPLOYEE.

>> WELL, I MEAN, IF THIS HAS BEEN AN ONGOING PROGRAM, THEN I WOULD SAY IT BELONGS ON THE CONSENT AGENDA.

I JUST THOUGHT IT WAS SOMETHING NEW BECAUSE I'VE NEVER SEEN IT BEFORE.

>> IT'S PARALLEL TO THE POSITION THAT WE HAVE FUNDED THROUGH THE WACO COUNTY DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH SERVICES FOR THE MIDDLE SCHOOLS.

WE HAVE A STUDENT ASSISTANCE SPECIALIST FOR OUR MIDDLE SCHOOLS, AND THIS IS SIMILAR.

IN BOTH CASES, THEY'RE FULLY FUNDED OUTSIDE OF THE SCHOOL DISTRICT, WHICH IS JUST INCREDIBLE.

>> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS?

>> IS IT OKAY TO ASK A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS ABOUT OTHER THINGS THAT ARE ON THE CONSENT AGENDA, REAL QUICKLY?

>> ONCE WE GET TO THE CONSENT AGENDA.

WE'VE GOT TO ACT ON THIS FIRST SINCE IT WAS TAKEN OFF THE CONSENT AGENDA.

SEEING NO ADDITIONAL COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS IN REGARDS TO THE STUDENT ASSISTANT PROFESSIONAL FOR PREVENTION AND INTERVENTION SERVICES, THE CHAIR WILL PUT FORTH THAT WE APPROVE THE NORTHWEST EDUCATIONAL SERVICE DISTRICT 189 CONTRACT FOR STUDENT ASSISTANCE PROFESSIONAL FOR, THAT'S A TONGUE TWISTER, FOR PREVENTION AND INTERVENTION SERVICES.

SINCE THIS WAS PULLED OFF THE CONSENT AGENDA, I'M JUST GOING TO GO STRAIGHT TO THE BOARD VOTE.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

>> [OVERLAPPING] AYE.

>> ALL OPPOSED. IT IS APPROVED.

[9. SUPERINTENDENT CONSENT AGENDA [GC-2.4]]

[10. BOARD CONSENT AGENDA [GC-2.4]]

NOW WE WILL MOVE ON TO THE SUPERINTENDENT AND BOARD CONSENT AGENDAS.

THESE ARE A GROUP OF ROUTINE ITEMS THAT THE BOARD HAS HAD ACCESS TO PRIOR TO THE MEETING AND THE ABILITY TO REVIEW AND ASK QUESTIONS ABOUT.

THE OPEN PUBLIC MEETING ACT ALLOWS THESE ITEMS TO BE ACTED ON IN ONE MOTION AS OPPOSED TO MULTIPLE INDIVIDUAL MOTIONS, AND SO THE CONSENT AGENDAS ARE NOW OPEN FOR COMMENT.

>> ON 9.09 AND 9.10.

I JUST HAD A QUESTION ABOUT THE TERM OF RENEWAL BECAUSE IT SAYS, FROM DATE OF SIGNING THROUGH WHENEVER.

IN TERMS OF, HOW DO YOU DETERMINE JUST THE TERMS ON THOSE, THEY WERE AWKWARD TO LOOK UP.

[02:45:03]

>> THERE ARE AGREEMENTS THAT ARE SPECIFIC TO EACH SCHOOL YEAR.

IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE ASKING?

>> I WAS JUST WONDERING BECAUSE, FOR EXAMPLE, THE START DATE.

THAT'S WHAT I WAS WONDERING ON THIS.

I GUESS THE START DATE WOULD BE TONIGHT IF WE APPROVE IT.

OR THE BEGINNING OF THE SCHOOL YEAR.

BUT IT DOESN'T SAY THAT IT JUST SAYS [OVERLAPPING]

>> BUT IT'S MUCH LIKE ANYTHING THAT YOU GET IT APPROVED AND THEN THEY CAN PLAN TO IMPLEMENT.

>> THIS AGAIN IS A CONTINUING PARTNERSHIP THAT WE'VE HAD FOR MULTIPLE YEARS.

IN SOME OF THOSE CASES, SOME DISTRICTS ARE STARTING TO DO TWO-YEAR AGREEMENTS WHEN IT'S THE SAME THING EVERY YEAR, WHICH MIGHT BE SOMETHING IN SOME OF THESE CASES WHERE IT'S MORE ROUTINE THAT WE WANT TO MOVE TO.

BUT TYPICALLY, WE'RE RENEWING NOW FOR THE '25, '26 SCHOOL YEAR.

>> THAT MAKES SENSE. IT'S JUST THAT IT SEEMED LIKE IT WAS IRREGULAR IN TERMS OF THE LENGTH OF THE TERM LIKE IT WAS IN OCTOBER AND THEN TO JUNE, AND THEN NOW, THIS WILL BE FOR THE WHOLE SCHOOL YEAR.

THAT'S WHAT I WAS WONDERING. IT JUST SEEMED.

>> I THINK THAT'S A TECHNICAL QUESTION IN TERMS OF STARTING.

WHEN SCHOOL STARTS, WE'LL START SERVING STUDENTS.

>> IN TERMS OF JUST KEEPING TRACK.

IT JUST DIDN'T MAKE IT EASY TO LOCATE AND LINE UP WITH WHAT WE'D HAD PREVIOUSLY.

I DO RECOGNIZE THAT THESE WERE EXISTING AGREEMENTS THAT WE'D HAD BEFORE, BUT WASN'T REALLY SURE OF WHEN THEY STARTED AND WHEN THEY ENDED BECAUSE OF THEY DON'T SEEM TO BE CONSISTENT.

>> PART OF THAT IS COMMUNITIES AND SCHOOLS IS A GRANT-FUNDED PROGRAM.

IT MAY DEPEND ON WHEN THEY'RE ABLE TO SECURE GRANT FUNDS OR WHATEVER.

BUT RIGHT NOW WE ARE ABLE TO PLAN FOR THE START OF THE SCHOOL YEAR.

>> I DID HAVE A QUESTION WITH THE OCCUPATIONAL THERAPIST ON THE HIRING AND THE RESIGNATION.

IS THAT THE PERSON THAT RESIGNED OR DO WE HAVE ANOTHER OCCUPATIONAL THERAPIST? I WAS CURIOUS ABOUT THAT.

>> WHEN WE DID THE REDUCTIONS, WE WERE ABLE TO RECALL ONE OCCUPATIONAL THERAPISTS BACK, BUT WE HAD MORE THAN THAT.

THAT WAS A STAFFING REDUCTION THAT WE MADE, AND SO WE'LL HAVE FEWER OCCUPATIONAL THERAPISTS FTE NEXT YEAR THAN COMPARED TO THIS YEAR.

>> BUT I WILL ADD [OVERLAPPING]

>> THERE WAS ONE RESIGNATION AND THEN ONE RECALL.

>> I WILL ADD, IF YOU LOOK JUST THE WAY THAT RESIGNATIONS WORKED, KEVIN HAD ASKED THAT QUESTION ABOUT, IT SEEMS WE HAVE A LOT OF PEOPLE WE'RE ABLE TO BRING BACK.

WE WERE ABLE TO BRING BACK THE MAJORITY OF OUR RECALL.

PEOPLE WHO GOT A LETTER, THEY'RE BEING BROUGHT BACK, THAT HAS TO DO WITH, WE DIDN'T FILL EVERY POSITION IN THE SPRING, PEOPLE HAVE RESIGNED, MOVED ON.

IT WAS NICE TO GIVE SOME GOOD NEWS.

YOU'VE BEEN SEEING SOME RESIGNATIONS ALONG THE WAY, AND SO YOU'RE SEEING ALL OF THAT WE PAUSED A BIT.

WE WERE VERY CONSERVATIVE, ESPECIALLY WHEN WE DID NOT KNOW WHAT WAS GOING TO HAPPEN.

WE WAITED UNTIL WE WERE SURE.

WE'RE STILL LEAN.

I DON'T WANT TO GIVE FALSE HOPES.

WE'RE STILL GOING TO HAVE HIGH CLASS SIZES.

I FIGURED, THE SIX MILLION DOLLARS IF WE GOT THAT FROM MSOCS AND THE FOUR MILLION THAT WE ARE NOT GETTING FUNDED IN THE DIFFERENCE IN SPECIAL EDUCATION, IF WE WERE GETTING THAT $10 MILLION FROM THE STATE, IT WOULD BE A VERY DIFFERENT OUTLOOK.

IT'S NOT, BUT WE WERE THRILLED TO BE ABLE TO BRING OUR PEOPLE BACK.

>> ALONG THOSE LINES, ONE MORE QUESTION, AND I PROMISE I'LL STOP BEING A QUESTER.

WITH THE PEOPLE WHO ARE FILLING IN FOR LEAVES OF ABSENCES, ARE THE LEAVES OF ABSENCES PAID OR UNPAID? THERE WERE A FEW THAT EXTENDED.

>> IF SOMEONE'S TAKING A LEAVE OF ABSENCE?

>> YEAH.

>> THAT WOULD BE A KARA QUESTION.

IT WOULD DEPEND ON, IS IT FMLA? THERE'S DIFFERENT PARTS OF THAT.

EACH ONE IS A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT.

OFTEN TIMES THEY ARE.

THAT WAS PART OF OUR SITUATION LAST YEAR WHEN WE HAD OVER 90 LEAVES.

THE MAJORITY OF THOSE FOLKS WERE PAID, PLUS WE WERE PAYING FOR THEIR REPLACEMENT. THAT'S A COST.

>> WELL, THERE WERE I THINK THREE OF THEM THAT WERE PRETTY MUCH THE ENTIRE SCHOOL YEAR, SO THAT'S WHY I WAS WONDERING.

>> NOT ALWAYS IS THAT GOING TO BE THE CASE, BUT WITH STATE LAWS CHANGING AROUND PFMLA, FMLA, ALL OF THOSE THINGS THAT THERE'S MORE LENIENCY, I WOULD SAY,

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COMPARED TO WHEN PERHAPS I WAS TAKING LEAVES FOR VARIOUS REASONS.

>> I WILL BE QUIET NOW FOR A WHILE.

>> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS REGARDING ITEMS ON THE CONSENT AGENDAS?

>> I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO ADOPT THE SUPERINTENDENT CONSENT AGENDA, AS WELL AS THE BOARD CONSENT AGENDA AS WRITTEN.

>> THANK YOU, STEVE. IT HAS BEEN MOVED THAT WE ADOPT THE SUPERINTENDENT AND BOARD CONSENT AGENDAS AS PRESENTED.

AGAIN, STUDENTS, YOU DON'T HAVE TO VOTE ON THESE.

GOING STRAIGHT TO THE BOARD MEMBERS, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

>> AYE.

>> AYE.

>> AYE. ALL OPPOSED? CONSENT AGENDAS HAVE BEEN PASSED.

THAT TAKES US TO THE SHARING PORTION OF OUR MEETING.

[11. SHARING [GC-7.E}]

WE'RE IN THE HOME STRETCH FOLKS.

START WITH YOU, PEGGY.

>> I DON'T REALLY HAVE MUCH OF ANYTHING TO SHARE.

IT'S BEEN A BUSY SUMMER, BUT I COULDN'T TELL YOU WHERE IT ALL WENT.

IT'S GONE. AUGUST IS GOING TO BE COMPLETELY FULL BECAUSE WE'RE GOING TO BOSTON AND TRYING TO JUGGLE SOME OTHER STUFF.

>> COOL.

>> I DID HAVE SOMETHING I WANTED TO ASK, BUT I DON'T REMEMBER WHAT IT WAS BECAUSE I DIDN'T WRITE IT DOWN, SO I GUESS I'LL SAVE IT FOR NEXT TIME.

>> NANCY.

>> I REMEMBER LAST MEETING DURING THE STUDENT SHARING, HARLEEN SAID THAT SHE'S LOOKING FOR TOPICS FROM BOARD DIRECTORS ABOUT THINGS THAT WE WANT TO LEARN FROM THE STUDENTS, BECAUSE I THINK HARLEEN AND MARCUS ARE GOING TO GO TO DIFFERENT SCHOOLS AND SUCH, AND TALK TO THE KIDS THERE.

I WANT TO SEE IF MAYBE THIS MIGHT BE ABLE TO TURN INTO SOME, I DON'T KNOW, JUST PUT A BUG IN YOUR EAR ON THIS, SOME CROSS-AGE READING BUDDIES, BECAUSE I'M JUST HOPING THAT WE COULD GET MORE OPPORTUNITIES FOR KIDS TO LEARN TO READ BETTER.

I REMEMBER WHEN I WAS TEACHING IN CENTRAL, THERE WERE CERTAIN CLASSES THAT WOULD HAVE CROSS-AGE READING BUDDIES AND IT JUST SEEMED LIKE AN AWESOME THING.

I'M WONDERING IF THAT MIGHT BE SOMETHING THAT COULD BE PROMOTED, FACILITATED, COORDINATED, OR AT LEAST, IF YOU AS REPRESENTATIVES MIGHT WANT TO BE SOMEWHAT INVOLVED IN THAT.

ALSO, I ALSO WAS THINKING, I DON'T REALLY GET TO COMMUNICATE WITH YOU OUTSIDE OF THE MEETINGS AND I WOULD VERY MUCH LIKE TO.

ANYWAY, I'M JUST PUTTING ALL THAT OUT THERE, AND IF YOU HAVE ANY REACTIONS, I'D LOVE TO HEAR THEM, OR PERHAPS WE COULD TALK LATER.

>> NO. THAT'S SUCH AN AWESOME IDEA.

THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR BRINGING THAT UP.

THAT'S ACTUALLY THE GOAL OF WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO ACHIEVE.

MARCUS AND I WERE TALKING, AND WE WANT TO CREATE A STUDENT OUTREACH PROGRAM.

ONCE WE START GETTING IT ALL TOGETHER, BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY THE FIRST FEW YEARS ARE GOING TO BE HARD, BUT I WANT TO MAKE IT A CONSISTENT THING SO THAT WE CAN DO THINGS LIKE CONNECTING DIFFERENT GRADES AND DIFFERENT SCHOOLS WITHIN OUR DISTRICT.

WE'VE GOT WHAT? FIVE ELEMENTARY SCHOOLS.

IT'S SO DIFFICULT TO BE ABLE TO COME TOGETHER SOMETIMES.

BY US GOING IN AND GETTING TO KNOW EVERYBODY AND GETTING TO KNOW EACH SCHOOL, EVEN THE ONES THAT WE NEVER WENT TO, I WANT TO BE ABLE TO CREATE A PROGRAM WHERE WE CAN, MAYBE AT THE END OF THE SCHOOL YEAR, COME TOGETHER.

WE CAN DO SOME RETREAT AT THE HIGH SCHOOL, HAVE A PIZZA PARTY, WATCH A MOVIE, DO SOMETHING FUN TO GET ALL THE STUDENTS ENGAGED TOGETHER, AND I THINK THIS WHOLE READING BUDDY THING, HOPEFULLY, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE CAN GET OUT OF THIS.

YOU KNOW WHAT? YOU GUYS, I HOPE YOU SHOULD FEEL FREE TO CONTACT ME OR MARCUS IN ANY WAY.

EMAIL ME ANYTIME, BECAUSE, GUYS, I HAVE MY NOTIFICATIONS ON, UNLIKE MANY STUDENTS.

I'M ALWAYS CHECKING MY EMAILS.

>> IT'S VERY TRUE.

>> I WILL GET ON TOP OF THAT IMMEDIATELY.

I KNOW MARCUS DOES TOO.

WE'RE HERE FOR YOU, GUYS, AND LET ME KNOW.

I'M GOING TO BE WORKING WITH OUR ADMINISTRATIVE TEAM, MARCUS AND I, TO GET THIS STUFF OUT TO YOU.

WE'RE HOPING TO PLAN SOME MORE THINGS, MAYBE GET A SURVEY OUT TO YOU, GUYS, SO YOU GUYS ARE ABLE TO COMMUNICATE MORE CLEARLY WITH US.

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>> I LOVE YOUR REACTION.

THANK YOU SO MUCH, HARLEEN.

I'LL BE IN TOUCH. THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU.

>> JUST LIVING THE DREAM. NO, AND I DON'T WANT THIS TO BE DEROGATORY, BUT AN INTERESTING STATISTIC I RECENTLY SEEN IN THE NEWS, AND WE'VE TALKED A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THIS, HAS BEEN ONE OF MY THINGS, IS CURSIVE IN THE SCHOOLS.

THERE WAS A STATISTIC THAT SET OUT THERE THAT A LARGE NUMBER PERCENTAGE OF SIGNATURES OF YOUNG PEOPLE, 18-25, WERE REJECTED AT THE VOTERS LEVEL BECAUSE OF MISMATCH ON THEIR SIGNATURES.

I JUST WANT TO BRING THAT FORWARD THAT THAT'S SOMETHING TO CONSIDER IN THE FUTURE, THAT WE SHOULD MAYBE FOCUS ON BEING A LITTLE BIT MORE PROACTIVE, AS FAR I KNOW MY SIGNATURE IS A MESS.

IT USED TO BE NEAT AND TIDY, BUT IT'S GOT TO BE A MESS.

I'VE SIGNED IT TOO MANY TIMES, BUT IT'S SOMETHING THAT SHOULD BE A FOCUS.

I JUST WANT YOU TO KNOW THAT IT CAN BE CAUSE AND EFFECT, AND ESPECIALLY WHEN IT COMES TO VOTING, BECAUSE THEY DO MATCH SIGNATURES.

ANYWAY, JUST SOMETHING THAT I CAUGHT UP ON THE NEWS.

I JUST WANT TO BRING IT FORWARD.

>> THANK YOU FOR THAT. I'M ONE OF THOSE PEOPLE WHO GOT REJECTED.

COUPLE TIMES NOW. [LAUGHTER] IT'S INTERESTING, ISN'T IT?

>> IT JUST CAUGHT ME BY SURPRISE THAT THAT CAN HAPPEN. ANYWAY.

>> ME TOO.

>> CHRIS, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO HAVE KRISTI SIGN A FEW MORE THINGS SO SHE GETS SOME PRACTICE WITH THEIR SIGNATURE.

>> I HATE TO INTERFERE, BUT CAN I ADD ON TO THAT? BECAUSE MINE WAS PRETTY LAME CONTRIBUTION.

ACTUALLY, I WENT TO PRESENTATION.

IT'S BEEN A WHILE AGO, BUT IT WAS STACY HENTHORN, THE AUDITOR, AND SHE SAID, THERE HAVE BEEN BIG PROBLEMS BECAUSE PEOPLE DON'T USE CURSIVE ANYMORE, AND SO I THINK IT'S ACTUALLY A VERY GOOD IDEA TO BRING IT BACK.

LIBRARY OF CONGRESS HAS VOLUNTEER POSITIONS OPEN FOR PEOPLE TO GO IN AND TRANSCRIBE OLD DOCUMENTS, AND THE AMOUNT OF PEOPLE ABLE TO VOLUNTEER FOR THAT IS DROPPING BECAUSE OF THE FEWER AND FEWER PEOPLE THAT KNOW HOW TO READ CURSIVE, PARTICULARLY THE REALLY ELEGANT STUFF FROM A WAY LONG AGO.

I'VE ALSO READ THAT WHEN YOU TAKE NOTES LONGHAND, IT ACTUALLY INTERNALIZES.

YOU LEARN BETTER. I THINK IT WOULD BE A GOOD IDEA TO BRING BACK CURSIVE IF WE CAN.

>> ANTONIO.

>> I JUST WANT TO RECOGNIZE THE FERNDALE STAFF FOR THE EFFORTS WITH THE BUDGET, AND BASICALLY ALL THE EFFORT TO EXPLAIN TO US AND THE STUFF TO BE PRESENTED.

IT'S VERY COMPLICATED.

I HAVE BEEN A PART OF COMPLEX BUDGETS IN THE PAST, AND THIS IS ONE, AND TRYING TO WORK EVERYTHING AND MAKING SURE THAT WE'RE COVERING AS BEST AS WE CAN, THAT'S COMMENDABLE. GOOD JOB.

>> THANK YOU. TWO THINGS THAT I WANT TO DO, WELL, THREE THINGS, I THINK.

ONE, HAD A GREAT TIME LAST WEEK.

WE HAD A FAMILY CAMPING TRIP AND ALL OUR KIDS WERE THERE, SO THAT WAS A GOOD TIME.

SUMMER IS ALWAYS ABOUT GETTING TOGETHER WITH FAMILY, SO THAT WAS AWESOME.

HAD A THOUGHT WHEN I SAW MARY WITH HER VISUAL AID TONIGHT.

KRISTI, THIS IS A QUESTION FOR YOU, AND I'M NOT LOOKING TO MAKE MORE WORK BY ANY MEANS, BUT I WAS NOTICING, THAT'S A REAL LOADED QUESTION.

>> THAT'S A SET UP RIGHT THERE.

>> I KNOW. IT'S HER LIKE SAYING, I'M TELLING YOU THIS BECAUSE I LOVE YOU.

NO, I WAS JUST WONDERING BEFORE OUR MEETING OR IN-BETWEEN OUR TWO MEETINGS, WE HAD THE DEAL UP THERE THAT JUST SAID STAND BY MEETING.

BUT I WAS WONDERING IF THERE'S ANY WAY, AND AGAIN, NOT TRYING TO CREATE WORK, BUT JUST BRAINSTORMING IDEAS, IF TEACHERS COULD SUBMIT LITTLE VIDEOS OR CLIPS OF STUDENT ART PROJECTS OR POEMS, OR WHATEVER THAT WE COULD HAVE UP THERE THAT PEOPLE COULD SEE WHAT'S GOING ON,

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AS OPPOSED TO JUST, IT'S A GREAT PICTURE OF THE STADIUM, BUT HIGHLIGHTING SOME OF THE OTHER STUFF MIGHT BE GREAT TOO AND JUST HIGHLIGHTING SOME OF THE ARTS AND SUCH.

>> THAT'S A GREAT IDEA. I WILL CHECK WITH SWAGIT, BECAUSE THEY'RE THE ONES WHO OPERATE THAT VISUAL, BUT WE'LL SEE WHAT WE CAN DO.

>> I SUSPECT THAT TEACHERS AND EVEN STUDENTS WOULD BE HAPPY TO DO SOME SHOTS.

ANYWAY, JUST A BRAINSTORM THAT I HAD AT THE TIME.

THE OTHER THING I WANTED TO SHOW PEOPLE IN CASE THEY HADN'T SEEN IT, BUT THIS IS LAST WEEK'S NEWSPAPER.

SOME OF US STILL READ THE NEWSPAPER.

I'M OLD. BUT YOU MIGHT RECOGNIZE THIS PERSON THAT WAS IN IT, BUT THEY HAD A FEATURE ON KAVANAUGH AND HIS WEATHER STUFF.

IF YOU DIDN'T SEE IT, YOU MIGHT WANT TO CHECK IT OUT.

SHOUT OUT TO HIM AND ALL HIS WEATHER ACCURACY FROM RIGHT HERE IN FERNDALE.

THAT'S WHAT I HAVE.

[12. MEETING EVALUATION SURVEY]

WITH THAT, I WILL TURN IT OVER TO ANTONIO FOR THE MEETING EVALUATION.

>> VERY GOOD. IT WAS A LONG MEETING, BUT I THINK WE DID A VERY GOOD JOB.

I'M GOING TO RATE US ON THE COMMENDABLE SIDE.

THE AGENDA WAS WELL PLANNED.

THE BOARD MEMBERS DID NOT INTERRUPT EACH OTHER.

BOARD MEMBERS DID NOT ENGAGE IN SIDE CONVERSATIONS.

I DID NOT REPEAT WHAT HAD ALREADY BEEN SAID, NOT PLAYING THE AUDIENCE.

SUPPORTED THE PRESIDENT'S EFFORTS.

COMMUNICATED OPENLY.

ALL BOARD MEMBERS CONTRIBUTED TO THE MEETING.

WE ALL DID, AND WE WERE RESPECTFUL WITH OUR BODY LANGUAGE.

>> I THINK WE DID A GREAT JOB.

OVERALL PERFORMANCE, I WOULD SAY NUMBER 4, WHICH IS COMMENDABLE.

AS HIGH AS WE CAN GET IT.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

>> THANK YOU FOR THAT EVALUATION.

WITH THAT, THAT MOVES US ON TO ITEM 13.01, WHICH IS ADJOURNMENT.

THANK YOU TO OUR LONE AUDIENCE MEMBER WHO STAYED FOR THE WHOLE TIME.

THERE'S AN AWARD FOR THAT I'M SURE.

I DECLARE THIS MEETING ADJOURNED. THANK YOU, EVERYONE.

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.