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[1. CONVENE]

[00:00:06]

GOOD EVENING AND WELCOME TO THIS SPECIAL MEETING OF THE FERNDALE SCHOOL DISTRICT SCHOOL BOARD.

TONIGHT, OUR SPECIAL MEETING IS BASICALLY A PUBLIC HEARING IN ORDER TO HEAR PUBLIC COMMENT ON THE PROPOSED BUDGET FOR THE SCHOOL DISTRICT FOR 23-24. AND SO WE WILL BE HEARING ABOUT THAT.

FIRST ITEM ON THE AGENDA FOR TONIGHT FOR THIS SPECIAL MEETING IS TO ACTUALLY ADOPT THE AGENDA, WHICH IS PRETTY BRIEF BUT.

[2. ADOPTION OF AGENDA]

THE CHAIR WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO ADOPT THAT AT THIS POINT.

I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO ADOPT THE AGENDA AS WRITTEN.

OKAY, SO THERE HAS BEEN A MOTION TO ADOPT THE AGENDA AS PRESENTED.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

AYE. ALL OPPOSED.

OKAY. THE AGENDA IS ADOPTED.

AND WITH THAT WE WILL MOVE ON TO RECEIVING PUBLIC COMMENT ON THE AGENDA.

[3. PUBLIC COMMENT]

AND LOOKS LIKE WE HAVE ANDREW GUSTAFSON ON.

AND SO.

I'M SORRY. YOU'D BETTER LAUGH.

IF THE MIC IS ON HERE.

MICROPHONE. IT'S ON.

TESTING. TESTING. THERE'S PEOPLE WATCHING ON THE STREAM.

SO ARE YOU GOING TO SAY THAT AGAIN? I HAVE TO. CAN YOU HEAR ME NOW? TEST, TEST, TEST.

THERE'S NOTHING. ONE MORE TIME.

TEST. TEST. I THINK IT IS ON.

I DON'T THINK IT IS. SOUNDS LIKE IT IS.

TEST, TEST, TEST.

I KNOW SOME PEOPLE WATCH ON THE LIVE STREAM RIGHT NOW, SO.

I CAN HEAR A LITTLE. CAN YOU HEAR IT? OKAY. I'M GOING TO SAY SOMETHING THAT'S GOING TO SHOCK YOU.

I AGREE WITH MELINDA.

I AGREE THAT THE ELECTED SCHOOL BOARD MEMBERS SHOULD BE COMPENSATED, BUT NOT AT THE PENALTY RATE IN THE RCWS.

I SAY MAKE IT 50 GRAND EACH.

MAKE IT A PART TIME JOB WORTH REALLY DIGGING INTO.

FIVE, FIVE PEOPLE TIMES 50 GRAND.

THAT'S A QUARTER MILLION BUCKS.

THAT'S A ROUNDING ERROR IN THIS $91.5 MILLION DOLLAR BUDGET I'M LOOKING AT.

MAYBE IF WE SPEND A QUARTER MILLION BUCKS ON THE BOARD, THEY'D BE ABLE TO KEEP UP WITH THE $6 MILLION BUCKS THAT'S GOING TO BE SPENT ON ADMINISTRATIVE STAFF THIS YEAR, STAFF THAT IS RUNNING CIRCLES AROUND THE BOARD AND FOR ALL INTENTS AND PURPOSES HAS RUN FOR A LONG TIME, RUNS THIS BOARD.

MAYBE IF MY ELECTED DIRECTOR FOR DISTRICT TWO WAS COMPENSATED, SHE'D BE ASKING QUESTIONS LIKE, HEY, MARK SAYS, HERE WE ARE PROJECTED TO RECEIVE $86 MILLION DOLLARS IN TAXPAYER FUNDING THIS YEAR, BUT ARE PROJECTED TO SPEND $91.5 MILLION.

MY CONSTITUENTS TELL ME THAT IF THEY ONLY MAKE $86,000 A YEAR, THEY DON'T SPEND $91.5 THOUSAND DOLLARS A YEAR.

THEY CUT EXPENSES. SO WHAT EXPENSES IS THE DISTRICT CUT IN THIS YEAR? AS I'M NOT SEEING ANYTHING BUT INCREASES IN THIS BUDGET.

IF OUR EXPENDITURES WERE $88 MILLION DOLLARS LAST YEAR, WHY NOT CUT $2 MILLION DOLLARS IN EXPENSES AND BALANCE THE BUDGET AT 86? SHE MIGHT ASK KRISTI, WHY ARE THE ADMINISTRATIVE EXPENSES THE FASTEST GROWING LINE ITEM IN THE BUDGET? A FULL $6 MILLION DOLLARS IS TO BE SPENT ON PEOPLE IN THE ADMIN OFFICE OF VISTA, UP FROM $5.2 MILLION DOLLARS LAST YEAR.

OR SHE MIGHT ASK A QUESTION LIKE THIS BUDGET SAYS WE'RE GOING TO ASK THE FERNDALE TAXPAYERS TO FUND THIS SCHOOL DISTRICT TO THE TUNE OF $91.5 MILLION DOLLARS THIS COMING YEAR TO EDUCATE 4,600 STUDENTS AT A COST OF $19,500 PER STUDENT.

THAT'S UP $3 MILLION DOLLARS FROM LAST YEAR'S BUDGET TO EDUCATE ABOUT THE SAME NUMBER OF STUDENTS.

MEANWHILE, FOR THE DISTRICT'S OWN TEST SCORES ON THE OCR REPORT CARD, 53% OF OUR KIDS ARE BELOW GRADE LEVEL STANDARD IN ENGLISH, 66 ARE BELOW THE GRADE LEVEL STANDARD IN MATH, AND 56% OF OUR STUDENTS ARE BELOW THE GRADE LEVEL STANDARD IN SCIENCE.

SO WHAT EXACTLY ARE THE PARENTS OF THE TAXPAYERS IN THIS DISTRICT GETTING FOR THEIR $91.5 MILLION DOLLARS AND $19,500 PER STUDENT OFF THE HIGHEST PROPERTY TAXES THEY'VE EVER PAID? WHAT ARE THEY GETTING? SHINY SCHOOL AND KIDS THAT CAN'T READ AND DO MATH.

BOARD THEY'RE GOING TO TELL YOU THAT THIS IS THE BEST THING THAT THEY CAN DO RIGHT NOW AND THAT THE CLOCK IS TICKING AND THAT YOU HAVE TO APPROVE THIS BUDGET SO THEY CAN MEET THE DEADLINES WITH THE STATE.

YOU NEED TO TELL THIS ADMINISTRATION MORE IS EXPECTED OF YOU BALANCE THE BUDGET.

THERE'S NO SHORTAGE OF FUNDING FOR EDUCATION IN THIS STATE.

EDUCATION IS THE FIRST PRIORITY IN THE STATE'S BUDGET.

MEDIAN INCOME FOR TEACHERS IS GREATER THAN THE MEDIAN INCOME FOR FERNDALE TAXPAYERS, AND THE ADMINISTRATION BEHIND YOU MAKES 2 TO 4 TIMES MORE THAN THE MEDIAN INCOME EARNER IN FERNDALE. ALL THAT MONEY YET FAILING RESULTS.

AFTER YOU ASK THEM OF THE BUDGET, YOU NEED TO FIND OUT WHAT THEY'RE ACTUALLY TEACHING IN THE CLASSROOMS BECAUSE IT IS CLEARLY NOT MATH ENGLISH SCIENCE.

I UNDERSTAND THERE WAS A COUPLE OF ANNOUNCEMENTS MADE FOR PEOPLE TO COME AND SPEAK.

I THINK I'M THE ONLY PERSON ON THAT LIST.

ANYBODY ELSE WANTED TO GET UP HERE AND TALK ABOUT THE BUDGET.

THIS IS YOUR 15 MINUTES OF FAME RIGHT HERE.

I WOULD REPORT TO THIS DISTRICT THAT YOU PROBABLY HAVEN'T DONE A GOOD ENOUGH JOB TO ENGAGE PEOPLE ON GETTING THEM IN HERE.

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IF I'M THE ONLY ONE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK.

THANK YOU, MANAGER. SO ANDREW IS THE ONLY ONE THAT I HAVE ON MY LIST.

BUT IF ANYBODY ELSE IS WANTING TO SPEAK, THE FLOOR IS OPEN.

OKAY. SEEING NO ONE ELSE, MARK, THAT YOU WANT TO GIVE KIND OF A RUNDOWN ON THE BUDGET.

SURE. AND I ACTUALLY AM GOING TO TURN THIS OVER TO DIRECTOR OF FINANCE HOLLY GRAHAM, WHO HAS BEEN INSTRUMENTAL, AS YOU ALL KNOW, IN DEVELOPING THE BUDGET IN THE LAST SEVERAL YEARS, IS STARTING TO TAKE MORE AND MORE OF A LEADERSHIP ROLE.

SO SHE IS GOING TO WALK US THROUGH THE MAIN POINTS AND KIND OF A SUMMARY OF THE BUDGET THIS YEAR.

ALL RIGHT. SO THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME HERE.

I HAVE FOUR DOCUMENTS THAT WE'RE GOING TO LOOK THROUGH.

THE FIRST IS THE F 1[INAUDIBLE].

THREE OF THEM ARE STATE REQUIRED DOCUMENTS.

ONE IS A DISTRICT DEVELOPED, A MORE USER FRIENDLY VERSION OF THE BUDGET.

SO THIS FIRST ONE HERE ON THE SCREEN IS THE F 185.

IT'S ABOUT 200 PAGES IN LENGTH AND CONTAINS A LOT OF DETAIL.

IT SUMMARIZES ALL FIVE OF OUR FUNDS, HAS DETAIL AT THE LINE ITEM LEVEL FOR ALL OF OUR FUNDS.

SO THAT'S THE F 195.

AND THIS IS THE LIKE HOLLY SAID, THIS IS THE STATE REQUIRED FORMAT THAT ALL DISTRICTS HAVE TO PROVIDE THEIR BUDGET IN.

IT DOES NOT DO A GOOD JOB BECAUSE ALL OF THE DISTRICTS HAVE DIFFERENT DETAILS IN THEIR COUNTY CODES.

SO THIS IS THE STATE MANDATED ACCOUNT CODE THAT IS MORE OF A SUMMARY OF THE STRING AS OPPOSED TO THE DETAIL THAT WE PROVIDE IT IN. SO IT'S A LITTLE HARDER TO EXTRACT THE EXACT DETAILS, BUT WE'RE REQUIRED TO PUT IT IN THIS FORMAT.

AND YOU CAN SEE THIS IS THE ACTUAL CERTIFICATION PAGE THAT WE TURN INTO OSPI AND THAT THEY SIGN THAT BECOMES OUR ACTUAL OFFICIAL BUDGET DOCUMENT AND THESE ARE AVAILABLE ON THE WEBSITE SINCE JULY 10TH AND THEY ARE ON BOARD DOCS AS WELL.

ALL THE DOCUMENTS THAT WE'RE GOING OVER TONIGHT.

SO THE PUBLIC, OH GOSH, THIS MICROPHONE IS ON.

SO THEY'RE PUBLICLY AVAILABLE ON OUR WEBSITE, THE F 195.

AND FOR IF PEOPLE WANTED TO INTERPRET ALL OF THESE CODES AND WHAT THEY MEANT, THAT IS ALSO PUBLIC INFORMATION ON OSPI WEBSITE.

CORRECT. SO THE CITIZENS BUDGET, WHILE I APPRECIATE THAT IT IS A MUCH MORE USER FRIENDLY DOCUMENT TO READ, IF ANYBODY DID WANT TO DIG IN TO 169 PAGES, ALL OF THAT INFORMATION IS PUBLICLY AVAILABLE THAT THEY CAN DECIPHER IT, CORRECT? CORRECT. THANK YOU.

OKAY. THE NEXT SEGMENT THAT WE'RE GOING TO DIG INTO IS THE F 195 F.

THIS IS A DOCUMENT THAT REQUIRED US TO DO A 4 OR 5 YEARS AGO.

IT SHOWS A FOUR YEAR PROJECTION.

IT ISN'T THE MOST USER FRIENDLY DOCUMENT BECAUSE WE HAVE TO MAKE A LOT OF ASSUMPTIONS ON WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN.

SO IT'S KIND OF WHAT WOULD HAPPEN IF EVERYTHING STAYED THE SAME WITH JUST MODEST ENROLLMENT INCREASES, MODEST INFLATIONARY INCREASES.

AND SO THAT'S THE F 195 F.

AND THAT'S ONE OF THOSE THAT THE INTENT WAS GREAT IN TERMS OF THE LEGISLATOR CAME OUT WITH THE IDEA THAT YOU NEED TO START PLANNING MULTIPLE YEARS IN ADVANCE, NOT JUST FROM YEAR TO YEAR.

SO YOU CAN SEE THE TREND AND KIND OF MAKE ADJUSTMENTS TO MAKE SURE THAT THE DISTRICT MAINTAINS ITS GOOD FINANCIAL HEALTH.

THE EXECUTION OF IT IS A LITTLE CLUNKY.

IT'S A LITTLE AWKWARD BECAUSE, LIKE HOLLY SAID, THERE'S TOO MANY ASSUMPTIONS THAT ARE INVOLVED AND TOO MANY VARIABLES THAT WE CAN'T ACCOUNT FOR IN ORDER TO MAKE IT REALLY MEANINGFUL AND HELPFUL.

BUT BASICALLY THE PREMISE IS YOU HAVE TO CHANGE SOMETHING IN ORDER TO MODIFY THE TRENDS.

OTHERWISE YOU'RE GOING TO KEEP TRENDING THE WAY WHICHEVER WAY YOU'RE GOING, WHICH ISN'T REALISTIC BASED ON WHAT'S HAPPENING IN THE WORLD.

WE KNOW THAT WE CAN'T CONTINUE BUDGETING THE SAME LEVEL OF DEFICIT THAT WE ARE CURRENTLY WITHOUT HAVING A MAJOR PROBLEM STARTING NEXT YEAR.

SO WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO MAKE A CORRECTION IN ORDER TO LEVEL THAT OUT AND NOT END UP WITH A FINANCIAL PROBLEM.

THIS FORMAT DOESN'T NECESSARILY ALLOW US TO DO THAT VERY EFFECTIVELY, BUT IT HELPS KIND OF START THE CONVERSATION AND IDENTIFY THE TREND.

ALL RIGHT. THE NEXT DOCUMENT IS A REQUIREMENT DOCUMENT CALLED THE MSOC.

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THE NAME ESCAPED ME.

MSOC DISCLOSURE TOOL.

THE TOP GREEN SECTION IS $6.3 MILLION DOLLARS, WHICH THE STATE FUNDS US FOR MSOC.

I SHOULD SAY MSOC STANDS FOR MATERIALS, SUPPLIES AND OPERATING COSTS.

AND THIS DOCUMENT IS TO SHOW THAT WE ARE REQUIRED TO SPEND THAT $6.3 MILLION DOLLARS ON MSOC.

AND BASED ON OUR CURRENT BUDGET, WE ARE PROJECTED TO SPEND $12.9 MILLION DOLLARS ON MSOC.

SO WE MORE THAN EXCEED OUR REQUIREMENT OF SPENDING THE STATE FUNDED MSOCS.

AND PART OF THE REQUIREMENT FOR THAT, THE INTENT WAS IF YOU THERE ARE SOME DISTRICTS, BELIEVE IT OR NOT, THIS USED TO NOT SPEND ALL OF THEIR MSOC ALLOCATION FROM THE STATE ON MSOCS.

SO THE REQUIREMENT IS THEN THOSE DISTRICTS HAVE TO USE THIS TOOL TO DEMONSTRATE TO THE BOARD AND TO THE PUBLIC WHAT THAT MONEY IS ACTUALLY BEING SPENT ON.

THAT HAS NEVER BEEN AN ISSUE FOR US.

AND UNLESS THE STATE FUNDING CHANGES DRAMATICALLY, I DON'T THINK IT PROBABLY WILL BE IN THE FORESEEABLE FUTURE.

SO OUR MSOC EXPENDITURES WILL ACTUALLY ALWAYS BE HIGHER THAN WHAT THE STATE ALLOCATION IS.

AND THEN THE FINAL IS OUR CITIZENS BUDGET.

AND THAT DIFFERENCE WE MAKE UP WITH LENS.

THAT'S CORRECT. AND [INAUDIBLE].

THANK YOU. THIS IS OUR CITIZENS' BUDGET.

THE FIRST PAGE ONE AND TWO REALLY JUST SUMMARIZES OUR DIFFERENT FUNDS AND GIVES KIND OF A VERBAL EXPLANATION OF OUR DIFFERENT FUNDS.

PAGE THREE.

THIS IS A SUMMARY OF ALL OF OUR FUNDS AND WHAT OUR BUDGET AND EXPENDITURE LEVELS ARE FOR EACH FUND.

SO YOU SEE EACH OF OUR FIVE FUNDS, THE GENERAL FUND.

AND THOSE NUMBERS ACTUALLY ALIGN WITH THE RESOLUTION THAT YOU'VE GOT ON THE REGULAR MEETING.

LIKE MARK WAS SAYING THAT THESE NUMBERS CORRESPOND TO THE RESOLUTION FOR OUR BUDGETED OPTION.

THE NEXT PAGE IS A SUMMARY OF OUR FUND BALANCE.

IT'S A GENERAL FUND OVERVIEW.

IF IT'S TOP, CAN YOU SCROLL DOWN A LITTLE BIT MORE? TRYING IT IS SCROLLING ON MY SCREEN. OKAY, I'LL EXPLAIN IT AND HOPEFULLY WE'LL GET THERE.

THERE WE GO. THE TOP PORTION SHOWS OUR ESTIMATED FUND BALANCE AT THE BEGINNING OF AS OF SEPTEMBER 1ST, WHAT WE'RE ESTIMATING.

THE MIDDLE PORTION SHOWS OUR $85.9 MILLION DOLLARS IN REVENUES AND 91.5 MILLION IN EXPENDITURES.

AND THE BOTTOM PORTION SHOWS WHERE WE ARE PROJECTING OUR FUND BALANCE WILL BE AT THE END OF THE 2024 SCHOOL YEAR.

AND JUST AS A QUICK REMINDER, AS PART OF OUR BUDGETING PHILOSOPHY, WE BUDGET ALL OF THE EXPENDITURES VERY CONSERVATIVELY.

KIND OF WORST CASE SCENARIO.

SO THE EXPENDITURES HERE HISTORICALLY HAVE ALWAYS BEEN OVERSTATED COMPARED TO WHAT THEY ACTUALLY ARE.

SO, FOR INSTANCE, WE DO NOT BUDGET FOR SAFETY NET REVENUE.

SO WHEN THE 600 AND $700,000 OF SAFETY NET REVENUE COMES IN, IT ACTUALLY DECREASES THAT DEFICIT.

BUT BECAUSE THERE IS A CHANCE THAT WE DON'T RECEIVE THE REVENUE, WE BUDGET FULL EXPENDITURES WITHOUT THE REVENUE OFFSET.

WE ALSO BUDGET HIGH FOR FUEL.

WE BUDGET HIGH FOR CONTINGENCY EXPENSES.

THINGS THAT HEDGE AGAINST INFLATION BECAUSE IF WE PLAN FOR IT HIGH, WE'VE GOT IT IN THE PLAN.

IF IT DOESN'T COME IN WORST CASE SCENARIO, WE SAVE A LITTLE MONEY.

THE EXPENDITURES DON'T COME THAT HIGH, BUT WE DON'T GET CAUGHT FLAT FOOTED WITHOUT THE REVENUE TO SUPPORT A MASSIVE FUEL INCREASE LIKE WE SAW LAST YEAR.

TWO QUESTIONS ON THAT.

SO IN THE PAST FIVE YEARS OR SO, HAS OUR BUDGET THAT WE HAD APPROVED IN AUGUST, HAVE WE EVER

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EXCEEDED IT IN THE FOLLOWING YEAR? BECAUSE WE CAN'T.

CORRECT. OKAY.

THE OTHER QUESTION, TOO, IS YOU SAY WE'RE CONSERVATIVE ON OUR EXPENSES.

WHAT ABOUT FOR LEVY? HOW DID YOU JUST SINCE LEVY MAKES UP 18%, I BELIEVE, OF OUR BUDGET, WE CAN'T CREATE A BUDGET WITHOUT THAT RIGHT NOW. BUT THE VOTERS HAVEN'T VOTED ON IT YET EITHER.

SO WHAT DID YOU USE FOR THAT NUMBER? FOR 23-24 BUDGET OUR THE LEVY HAS BEEN APPROVED? SO WE HAVE THOSE PROJECTIONS.

SO LET'S JUST GO THROUGH AUGUST 31ST.

OKAY. SO THE ONE THEY'LL BE VOTING ON NEXT FEBRUARY WILL BE FOR NEXT SUMMER.

SORRY. [INAUDIBLE] ALL RIGHT.

SO THEN THE NEXT PAGE, DO YOU HAPPEN TO KNOW AS FAR AS I KNOW, THE FISCAL YEAR IS NOT FINISHED YET, BUT WHERE WE'RE AT ON TRACK OF WHAT WE BUDGETED LAST YEAR VERSUS WHAT WE'VE ACTUALLY SPENT? IN OUR FINANCIAL STATEMENTS LATER, WE ARE OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD I CAN'T REMEMBER.

I'M SURE.

LESS THAN [INAUDIBLE].

AND WE'LL ANSWER THAT LATER IN THE MEETING.

OKAY. THIS IS OUR ENROLLMENT.

THE ENROLLMENT IS BASED ON THERE ARE SEVERAL DIFFERENT MODELS THAT WE LOOK AT AND THE MODEL THAT WE ARE FOLLOWING PROJECTS ABOUT 135 STUDENT INCREASE FOR THE NEXT SCHOOL YEAR.

AND SO THAT'S REFLECTED IN THIS PAGE.

AND THEN THIS ALSO HAS THE AVERAGE PER STUDENT FTE ALLOCATION, WHICH IS $10,194 PER STUDENT.

AND THAT COMES THROUGH [INAUDIBLE]. THIS NEXT PAGE IS OUR REVENUES AND WHERE THE MONEY COMES FROM. SO IT SHOWS THE FOUR MAJOR SOURCES, STATE REVENUE LEVY FUNDS, FEDERAL REVENUE, AS WELL AS LOCAL NON-TAX TYPE REVENUES.

THE GRANTS ARE UNDER OTHER.

THE GRANTS ARE UNDER SOME THE STATE SPECIAL AND THEN THEY'RE FEDERAL.

ANOTHER THING TO NOTE IS OUR ESSER THREE IS PHASING OUT AFTER THIS YEAR OR THIS COMING SCHOOL YEAR.

SO WE'LL SEE A BIG REDUCTION IN THAT REVENUE, REALLY $815,000 NEXT NEXT YEAR, WHICH CLOSES OUT THAT SUNSET.

AND THIS IS JUST MORE OF A DETAIL OF OUR REVENUES LINE BY LINE BY THE STATE CODES.

AND THEN WE GET TO EXPENDITURES AND WE'RE GOING TO PRESENT EXPENDITURES IN THREE DIFFERENT WAYS BY PROGRAM, BY OBJECT AND BY ACTIVITY, WHICH ARE ALL DIFFERENT WAYS THE STATE MANDATES THAT WE ACCOUNT FOR THINGS.

SO THIS FIRST ONE IS BY THE PROGRAM, BY MAJOR PROGRAM.

SO IT SHOWS EACH OF THE FIVE MAJOR PROGRAMS. AND SOMETHING TO NOTE, OUR SPECIAL EDUCATION WENT UP FAIRLY SIGNIFICANTLY, 20 EXPENDITURES, 20%.

AND THIS IS DUE TO AN INCREASED REVENUE FROM THE STATE AS WELL AS A CHANGE IN OUR MODEL.

ARE YOU GOING TO TALK MORE ABOUT THAT? SO WE'VE EXPANDED THE SPECIALIZED LEARNING ENVIRONMENT.

SO IT WAS A PILOT PROGRAM LAST YEAR THAT WAS VERY SUCCESSFUL.

SO WE'RE ADDING TWO MORE OF THOSE NEXT YEAR IN THE ELEMENTARY SCHOOLS, AND WE ARE WORKING ON EXPANDING INCLUSION AND CO-TEACHING, WHICH SHIFTS THE WAY WE'RE DOING THINGS A LITTLE BIT AND HAS HAD SOME INCREASED COSTS THAT SHOULD DRAMATICALLY IMPACT PROGRAM EFFECTIVENESS TO THE [INAUDIBLE].

AND I WOULD DEFER ANY OTHER QUESTIONS TO EITHER DR.

DOMINGUEZ OR TRINA WHEN SHE'S BACK.

THE NEXT SLIDE SHOWS EXPENDITURES BY.

OH, THIS IS A SUMMARY OF BY THE INDIVIDUAL PROGRAM POSTS FOR EXPENDITURES.

SO JUST MORE DETAIL.

AND THEN THE NEXT PAGE SHOWS THE EXPENDITURES BY MAJOR ACTIVITIES.

SO THIS IS BROKEN DOWN INTO TEACHING AND TEACHING SUPPORT OPERATIONS, ADMINISTRATION AND PRINCIPALS.

AND THE NEXT SLIDE BREAKS IT DOWN BY OBJECT, WHICH ARE IT BREAKS IT DOWN BY SALARY VERSUS THE MSOCS.

SO CERT SALARIES, CLASSIFIED SALARIES, BENEFITS, AND THEN THEN MSOCS.

SO SAME BOTTOM LINE ON ALL PREVIOUS REPORTS, JUST DIFFERENT WAYS OF PRESENTING.

AND THIS SHOWS A STAFFING SUMMARY OF WHAT WE'RE BUDGETED, SHOWS THE FIRST COLUMN IN THE THE TOP, THOSE TOP NUMBERS IS WHAT WE'RE FUNDED BY THE STATE FOR CERT STAFF AND CLASSIFIED STAFF AND ADMINISTRATORS.

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THE MIDDLE IS WHAT'S GRANT AND LOCALLY FUNDED THE FTE.

AND THEN THE LAST COLUMN IS WHAT WE'RE ACTUALLY BUDGETING.

AND THEN DOWN BELOW, IT'S JUST A COMPARISON BETWEEN THIS YEAR AND LAST YEAR.

QUESTIONS? IF WE GO BACK TO THE BY THE BUDGET EXPENDITURES BY MAJOR ACTIVITY ON THERE, IS THERE A REASON OR AN EXPLANATION OF MOST AREAS THAT WENT UP BY? WELL, TEACHING WENT UP BY 1.8.

TEACHING SUPPORT BY 5.3.

OPERATIONS BY 6.1.

IS THERE AN EXPLANATION FOR WHY ADMINISTRATION WENT UP BY 15.5%? SO THAT'S SIGNIFICANTLY DIFFERENT THAN THE OTHERS OR HIGHER THAN THE OTHERS? YES. SO WE ADDED A COUPLE OF POSITIONS THAT ARE NEW AND WE CHANGED THE WAY WE ACCOUNTED FOR THE DEANS THAT WE HAD LAST YEAR.

LAST YEAR THEY WERE CODED TO TEACHING SUPPORT, WHICH WE DIDN'T THINK WAS AN ACCURATE REPRESENTATION OF THE WORK THEY WERE DOING.

SO WE MADE THAT CHANGE.

SO IT KIND OF DOUBLED UP THIS YEAR'S INCREASE FROM WHAT WE WERE DOING LAST YEAR AS WELL.

LOOKING AT THE EVENT, NOTED THAT THE EXPENDITURES FOR SPECIAL EDUCATION WENT UP BY QUITE A BIT.

BUT LOOKING AND I KNOW THAT THE STATE DID INCREASE THEIR SPECIAL EDUCATION FUNDING LAST YEAR, BUT LOOKING AT OUR INCOME, OUR REVENUES FOR STATE BASIC EDUCATION ALLOCATION, IT ONLY WENT UP BY 4.5%.

SO WHILE THE STATE WENT UP SOME, IT DIDN'T GO UP ENOUGH TO COVER.

SO WHAT ARE WE CUTTING SO THAT WE CAN COVER THAT INCREASE FOR SPECIAL EDUCATION? WELL, YOU SEE THE FUND BALANCE, WHICH ARE OUR RESERVES.

I CAN'T REMEMBER WITH THE SPECIAL EDUCATION [INAUDIBLE] IS IT GOING TO BE INCREASING? LIKE IS IT ONE THAT OVER A FEW YEARS THEY'RE INCREASING A BIT? I CAN'T REMEMBER. JUST A ONE TIME.

IT'S JUST A ONE TIME. NO, IN FACT, WE SHOULD BE DECREASING IN SPECIAL ED BECAUSE WE ARE ACTUALLY ON THE I FORGET THE TERM THE STATE USES.

BUT WE'RE OVER QUALIFYING STUDENTS FOR SPECIAL ED, SO WE ARE SUPPOSED TO BE ACTUALLY DECREASING THE NUMBER OF STUDENTS THAT ARE QUALIFIED INTO THE SPECIAL ED PROGRAM.

SO WE SHOULD BE REDUCING EXPENDITURES OVER THE COMING YEARS.

BECAUSE THAT WOULD MEAN THIS SORT OF CHANGE FOR THIS YEAR WOULD NOT BE SUSTAINABLE YEAR OVER YEAR.

SO WE HAVE ALWAYS HAD A WE HAVE ALWAYS SPENT CONSIDERABLY MORE IN SPECIAL EDUCATION THAN WHAT WE BROUGHT IN TERMS OF REVENUE SPECIFICALLY FOR THAT PROGRAM.

SO I WOULD JUST ADD, THAT IS ONE OF THE AREAS YOU'LL HEAR MORE ABOUT THIS NEXT YEAR IS A PRETTY DEEP DIVE INTO THE AUDIT ABOUT WHY ARE WE OVER REFERRING.

IT WAS SOMETHING THAT WHEN I ARRIVED THAT WAS NOTED TO ME BY THE STATE.

IT CONTINUED THIS YEAR.

I THINK WE'RE NOT ALONE.

I THINK THAT BECAME THE DEFAULT.

IF A STUDENT WAS HAVING COMPLICATIONS WITH VARIOUS THINGS AND THAT WAS KIND OF THE DEFAULT.

SO WE'RE HAVING TO LOOK AT OUR PRACTICES AND THEN PUTTING IN WHAT ARE THOSE STRUCTURES.

ONE OF THE ENVIRONMENTS THAT MARK TALKED ABOUT, WE ARE ACTUALLY PILOTING ONE PROGRAM AT SKYLINE ELEMENTARY NEXT YEAR.

IT'S NOT ACTUALLY FUNDED UNDER THE SPECIAL EDUCATION THAT'S MORE BASIC AND TRYING TO KEEP KIDS OUT OF SPECIAL EDUCATION AND BACK INTO THE GENERAL EDUCATION CLASSROOM. SO WE'RE TRYING SOME PIECES, BUT WE DEFINITELY HAVE SOME OVER REFERRALS.

SO WOULD LIKE MTSS AND UDL THAT WE'VE STARTED.

WE USED OUR ESSER FUNDS FOR TO GET THAT GOING.

IS THAT SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE THE FIRST STOP BEFORE RETURNING TO SPECIAL EDUCATION? IT SHOULD BE THE UDL WE'RE STARTING TO SEE SOME SIGNIFICANT IMPACT ON THAT.

THE MTSS, WE ARE ENTERING YEAR THREE OF THAT PROCESS.

I'M NOT TO BE HONEST, I'M NOT SURE WE'RE SEEING THE GAINS.

I THINK PART OF IT IS WE DIDN'T HAVE A CLEAR DATA SYSTEM, SO IT'S HARD TO MAKE CHANGES.

PEGGY AND I WERE TALKING ABOUT THIS TODAY.

IF YOU'RE MAKING DECISIONS ABOUT BUDGET WITHOUT DATA AT THE TABLE, THEN THAT'S COMPLEX.

AND SO HENCE THE DASHBOARD AND THE FOCUSING ON THE DATA, HAVING TEAMS LOOKING AT DATA, BEING ABLE TO MAKE DECISIONS THAT ARE SUPPORTED.

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AND THE OTHER PIECE THAT MARK AND HOLLY BOTH MENTIONED IS WHAT'S OUR ACCOUNTABILITY? SO HOW DO WE KNOW WHAT PRACTICES WE'RE DOING? SO THERE'S AN EVALUATION OF, OKAY, WHAT ARE THE OUTCOMES OF THIS? ARE WE GETTING THE MOST FROM IT? IS IT CHANGING OUTCOMES FOR KIDS? AND IF IT'S NOT REALLY GOING TO STOP DOING IT, BECAUSE THAT'S OUR ULTIMATE GOAL.

SO I HAVE A QUESTION TOO.

YEAH, I THINK I'M LOUD ENOUGH THAT I CAN JUST.

OKAY. OKAY.

SO I HAVE A QUESTION TOO.

I KNOW PEOPLE WHO HAVE TRANSFERRED INTO THIS DISTRICT IN THE PAST BECAUSE THEY THOUGHT THAT WE MET SPECIAL EDUCATION NEEDS BETTER THAN THE DISTRICT THEY WERE IN.

WILL WE WHEN WE LOOK AT THAT, WE MAKE A DETERMINATION BASED ON WHAT OUR BUDGET LOOKS LIKE, WHETHER WE CAN ACTUALLY ACCOMMODATE THOSE PEOPLE AND DO WE TURN PEOPLE AWAY AS A RESULT? I WISH TRINA WAS HERE.

SHE'D BE ABLE TO ACTUALLY ANSWER THE DATA PART OF THAT, BUT THAT'S DEFINITELY SOMETHING BEFORE A STUDENT TRANSFERS IN.

YOU HAVE TO LOOK AT THE DIFFERENT NEEDS CAN WE MEET THE NEEDS OF THAT STUDENT? I THINK WE HAVE TO ASK OURSELVES IF WE CAN'T MEET THE NEEDS OF THAT STUDENT WITH THE RESOURCES WE HAVE WHEN WE HAVE TO ADD.

AND THAT'S NOT JUST FOR A STUDENT WITH AN IEP IN ANY SITUATION WHERE WE HAVE TO BE MINDFUL OF IT.

SO WE ARE ACTUALLY THIS PAST YEAR, THIS PAST SPRING, AND JOHN WAS PART OF THAT, WE TIGHTENED UP OUR TRANSFER PROCESS TO MAKE SURE THAT WHEN WE ARE LOOKING AT DIFFERENT LAYERS, THAT WE HAVE A WHOLE PICTURE BECAUSE WE DON'T WANT A FAMILY TO TRANSFER IN AND THEN UNABLE TO MEET THEIR NEEDS OR AT AN EXPENSE THE STUDENT WHO LIVES IN THE DISTRICT.

SO THAT'S DEFINITELY PART OF THE PROCESS.

ALL RIGHT, SO THE FINAL PAGE IS JUST A SUMMARY OF THE REVENUE AND EXPENDITURES COMPARED TO LAST OR THE 22-23 BUDGET COMPARED TO THE 23-24 BUDGET.

AND THAT WRAPS IT UP.

IS THERE ANY QUESTIONS? ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? OKAY. SEEING THAT THERE'S NO QUESTIONS AT THIS POINT.

I'LL GO AHEAD AND WE'LL WRAP UP THIS SPECIAL MEETING.

WE'LL HAVE ANOTHER CHANCE.

WE'LL BE TALKING ABOUT THE BUDGET AGAIN IN THE REGULAR MEETING AND THEN VOTING ON IT.

SO THANK YOU, MARK AND HOLLY, AND WE'LL TALK WITH YOU AGAIN IN A FEW MINUTES.

SO THAT CONCLUDES OUR SPECIAL MEETING FOR THIS EVENING.

AND WE WILL TAKE JUST A COUPLE OF MINUTES AND THEN WE'LL GET OUR REGULAR MEETING SCHEDULED.

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.